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As one of the even fewer fans who have seen the fall of ASFC from the Football League to the Lancs Comb to non-existence, then the resurrection through the leagues thst you speak of, I'm resigned to accepting the changes to allow progress.

But HAPPY to have seats on the Clayton End??...NEVER!!!

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I wore my avatar shirt but too cold to protest it fully but will wear it if i have to guard my stand spot! Its got fluff all to do with the FL its about the plans that they had last year & then because its the cheapest easiest option sod the fans whom may i remind have stood there thro thick & thin, we were good enough then tho. Im not standing further back [as much as i appreciate the ultras work on the noise to gear up the lads on the pitch i dont think they'd want me either they need room too y know:D] so leaves me cowshed then, no im not happy but then again will only be coping with it till end of season then its a case of reviewin the situation payin on the gate.

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Nice one WH:thumbsup::thumbsup:

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Yes of course SR is happy about it - its not where he perches as do many of the people that support the idea, clayton end looked empty enough last night - gonna be a lot emptier once seats are there. Logistically i cant envisage a good view either as that wall will have to be taken lower behind goals anyway!

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Where I have said I'm happy to upset loyal fans and people who I'm proud to call friends????

All I want, like the loyal fans (I hope) is for ASFC to punch well above its weight in the FL.

I accept that 2000 seats really aren't required on average gates of 1800.

BUT I'm senisble enough to know IF you want to play in the big boys league you MUST play by their rules!!!

So 5K capacity, bright floodlights, full time staff, 2000 seats and all the rest!! SORRY, i'm happy to toe the line!! Iwant to go to Bradford, Bury, Lincoln and Rochdale, it sure beats Ashton Town, Darwen and Rhyl!!!

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Missed the point there SR, readin what u think im saying, its not about any of us wanting asfc to go down, we knew & worried about the FL rulings on ground for the past 3 seasons, now taking it back to least last season - there was no talk of putting seats in clayton end, there was talk of a new stand ... poss relocation......poss seats in covered coppice end BUT NOT in the clayton end till past few months!! Trouble is asfc have left it late purposely to find out our position in the league around xmas tho at beginning at the season because of the huge penalties Luton, r'ham & bournemouth recieved sort of cushioned the stay in the league on that merit, now means club have to get the ground sorted, rushed & without consideration before the 1st May or we're a stevenage boro & out like they were.

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To put it bluntly, NO, the only way we are going to progress is Whalley goes ASAP, a few seats aren't going to get Coley new players or entice more people to come to the FES. We all know the seats have to go where they are going but that's not the whole story is it???

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Stanleymad, did not realise that you really had a top! Where did you get it???

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Giftprint accy market do em i know the owner;):D

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Is that Lancsdave?????

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Yep:D

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Cheers Stanleymad:thumbsup::D

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Quote:
Originally Posted by K-P http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...s/viewpost.gif
According to MAB in another thread we wont need them as we already ahve seats... maybe he has seen another dodgy picture like the snow on pitch one :)

:)Correct and the said seats are those seats from St Mirren,could have said on saturday when i posted :) redredredseats 1000 of them coming soon watch the fishy sight this week :)
But felt it wasn't up to me to make any announcement regarding who we got them off at the time only 99%sure that we had them.sorry for any confustion

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coming soon isnt got... the roof was coming soon for 5 yrs :)

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I know the seats are coming.. every man and his dog knows that.. theres no if but or maybe.. we have to put them in so they will come

The point your missing mab is that you ahve said they are here.. at the time you said that I dispute it and said there not here yet.. they might be here now.. tommorow as we speak even..

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So have the dreaded seats arrived yet?

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Which seats ? ;):D

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The new toilet seats, of course.:)

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erics cost cutting and just putting wooden benches in the clayton end! painted blue of course! becuase we cant have matching colours that would look too good! :eek::tongueout

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They will be arriving next month, but Eric expects them to all be installed by the middle of May - June at the very latest - well in time for the start of the Blue Square Premier next season :eek:

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Why the dreaded seats!!!!

Without extra seats we reprive Bournemouth and Luton

Do true and loyal supporters want us to be the 1st club to be relegated from the FL because we haven't fulfilled their requirements????

I DON'T


There are 900 seats enroute from Scotland, as I write. I KNOW, I've organised the movement. Another caring official was clever enough to do the deal with St. Mirren.

The blue Maine Road seats are probably NOT required, but are available IF needed!!

The top men at the club DO CARE, but are mindful of spending the clubs cash sensibly!!!

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I was under the impression that Barnet did that a few years ago because their ground didn't have the required capacity for the league. Please someone correct if I am wrong and I will be the first to hold my hand up.

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STILL MISSING THE POINT SR, NOBODY WANTS THE CLUB TO GO DOWN THE ARGUEMENT IS ABOUT WHERE THE SEATING GOES & WHO IT EFFECTS WITHOUT THOUGHT NOR CONSIDERATION TAKEN - THATS THE POINT!!!

Why has the club left it so late - we know why? The club are doing it now & rushed cos they now have to because Luton & Bournmouth have dictated that due to their points loss. Fans arn't stupid:(

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Stevenage boro went down because of capacity & ground rulings a fair no of seasons ago.

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Judging by the shirt colours and picture of the St Mirren stadium pending proposed redevelopment those seat won't be red either

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NO THEY DID NOT!!!!

They, like Kiddy, Macc, and Alty never got promoted 1st time around.

Also your other post is totally incorrect!!

Please re-read my 1st post on this thread, nothing has changed apart from the fact that the St. Mirren seats have made the blue MCFC seats not required:)

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Thanks SR - yr post confirming that you really do think the paying fans are totally stupid!

I got that info from a boro fan before we got promoted warning us of the rulings i shall direct yr comment to him about that.

BLUE SEATS we PLAY IN RED COLOURS AT HOME - how flippin tinpot, not only do we have to lose our standing position to seats but bloody blue ones an all :(

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Mel,

Where are you getting the idea of blue seats from????

The blue seats were a cheap option.

Now because of some clever work we have enroute to us loads of red and white seats from St Mirren.

NO I DONT THINK PAYING FANS ARE STUPID, I class these people as my friends:rolleyes:

Stevenage have never been in the FL, fact!!

The seating of the Clayton End is a Plan B, because Plan A to put a new stand on the Whinney Hill is currently more expensive than we can afford.FACT!!!!

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FACT FACT FACT very condesending Mark insinuating im stupid cos im wrong, maybe but the club have been wrong for many a times this season - lack of correct info being told to fans, proven that listening & being proactive to critical comments or as i like to call it constructive, leaving the very important part of said critical seating issue being left to the last minute & wonders why its no bloody money - certainly since 2-3 games have been postponed due to weather conditions............need i go on im sure the rest of the paying fans whom have found disappointment on & off the pitch with stanley could add to.............& thats before i go on about exhibition late shirt launch & lack of taking opportunities or capitilising whilst the fans & potential fans were waiting with baited breath pre season...nowt to do with failing gates & apathy....! etc!

Now would that be based on fact or im i again stupid & wrong in everything i say?? I only go now to support the players on the pitch & just hope, cos the rest of asfc has lost me.

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Mel

Now I see why the forum link has been dropped from the website!!

I still think of you as a friend:)

Yes mistakes are made by the club

But why this rant???

The club have to add the covered seats at minimal expense, because we have no money.

Its nothing to do with postponed matches, its to do with issues that even I'm struggling to get my head around!

Please let's not fall out, I do believe we all support the same cause??

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Friends can disagree or even agree to disagree if the case as it maybe, seriously i have lost my faith in the club as in backroom, the fellas on the pitch are still obtaining my faith in them atm. Im a fan supporter, even got a season ticket on the strength this year would be a positive one from all sides, slowly draining maybe seein the stuff i have & the frustration that keeps fueling, things that are positive was drained, ie the documentory prog, the media launch, the connection with the club to its fans have been at its all time low - removing the link from the website has only infuriated that. Sorry that there is a few of us that will voice our opinion out loud but because maybe we dont feel heard or its brushed off, ie like u cant see the grumbles from those in the lower clayton end - maybe u should stand with us for a few games see what we see? [but ok yr in the hospitality so suppose u cant], ok look at the pics of games that goaline least with people there supporting the team & kenny...we have a role too, i simply cant see the seats improving the fes [yes i know we need them] as far as the energy & support that area gives as in atmosphere as wynonie says. Those are the points that u dont get is the feeling about it not the fact we need it YES we know we do!

As far as boro yes im corrected slightly as not in league but getting to league. Im riding out this season then next season im backing off in all fronts, maybe a highly motive feeling for the little club needs a break.

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SR, you have said yourself on a number of occasions that we knew from the moment we won that match at Woking in 2006 that we'd have to meet football league rules by installing the extra seats. So why didn't the club start planning from that moment for those extra seats? Why didn't they capitalise on the wave of positive feeling and enthusiasm that surrounded the club that summer by perhaps running a "Make A Stand for Stanley" campaign? But, no, it was the same old flying-by-the-seat-of-your pants, "summat'll turn up" mentality. And so, the issue was put off time and time again. In fact, when a rumour did surface about seats on the Clayton End, the club got all indignant and said it wasn't going to happen.

...and so time went by and nothing was done until we've now reached the moment when the quickest and cheapest option is the only one available, neatly allowing the club to take the higher moral ground with their "if you don't want seats on the Clayton End, you don't want the club to stay in the league" approach. So, that's it, we'll just have to like it or lump it...I just hope that too many don't do the latter. :(

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I think there should be a questions and answers night about the ground etc soon! So people there and then can voice their opinions to the relevant people!

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yes ill come to that and bring some seats
1 new stand as well

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That Fc is an excellent post, speaks sence i wonder if the club will volunteer that or as wynonie says its lump it attitude will continue to privail :rolleyes: Think that also goes back to the point of withdrawing the link providing the club with excuse to distance themselves from any level of discussion, tho its ok for Eric to slag off the townspeople for not coming to the FES - he still doesnt get actually why :rolleyes: Its a two way street Eric!

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Tel me three ground questions you would ask that you dont already know the answers to ?

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Quite a few Why are u gonna find out or have u been promoted to club mediator lol?

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My point was... we already know the answers so whats the point of having a Q/A session... Its a moan at the club session you really want..


PS I dont now and never have worked for the club.. so difficult to promote me eh :)

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but if asked would you take over the website again?

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I know that I have asked this question before:rolleyes: but at the risk of repeating myself, why can the seats not go to the left and right? As it seems to me that not as many stand on the outer edges, most seem to (in my experience) huddle together in the central 3/4rs ish:confused: There was an answer posted that the view was impaired to the outers, but checked it out and it aint:confused: I know it may not be the perfect answer but I feel that it would be a better solution than what is proposed!! I know it might not suit everybody but, we - me included have to accept that its going to happen so lets have it the best way for most of the fans in the stands:)

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READ THE THREAD THEN YOU WILL KNOW THE ANSWER

The experts have advised the cheapest, safest and simplest way to install the necessary seats. The RED AND WHITE seats (NOT BLUE) are going in where we have been told they are. No amount of slagging off of anybody will change that. We will just have to get used to it. We are a football league club now not a non-league outfit where you can walk around the ground. We have to abide by the rules and that is that. Of course the club left it to the last minute, probably to see how much money was available. We may have had a good cup run, we may have had television money. Unfortunately that did not happen so it has to be the cheapest option. It is going to happen so stop moaning and get used to it.

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You almost sound like our Eric:) I know it is happening, I am not moaning I am having my say, thats all Jeff:D

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Not for free :) Done it for quite a few years for free... time is money now self employed.... photographs for them for free is doing my bit now :)

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Yes alot has been said on this thread , however there are going to be questions people need clearing up in their mind then someones post on Accringtonweb. Also a questions and answers night would be good for the people that actually dont come on Accringtonweb and have just seen relevant information in the papers etc. This could be a chance for people who know no other information than the seats are going to be put in the Clayton end to share their views and discuss with people. It is better for things to be answered and discussed about matters people are generally fustrated and anoyed in person than on a forum.

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Many people dont know whats actually going on, even this thread has been confused from blue seats to now red ones, dates of the work being done & will the goal-line end be cut off on match days should seating errection should not be finished - btw those Q's were put to me @ tues nights match by people not on here as well as some on here. So the answer is YES we do need things clarifying indeed:D

Moaning @ the club - dig at moi there but yes im moaning about the club tho dont say owt here that i wouldnt to club direct - trust me, tho the moaning is restricted to the things that are wrong or not proffessional but its beyond moaning - notice its been a while since the last Q&A & lots of things have festered or have been ignored that many people are not happy with & have/are voicing that opinion.

As for u KP im sure u can promote yourself very well:D:D

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Sorry jeff graffitti -ing your post but the above line so made me :rofl38: that should be noted to the club as well as the rest of us, if they behaved & acted like a professional outfit then maybe people will see it as one.......just a big point there!:mosher:

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eeerm no.. wasn't actually.. i wouldnt have a dig at you personally.. its the majority of accywebbers not just you :) seriously it was and never would be my intention to single you or anyone else out... but lets face it this is the place where people come to slag the club off.. and tell us what great fans they are all in the same post usally..


Thus whats the point? I ahve been to every one of these and apart from paul cooks little speech i wasnt impressed with any.. its all long awakward silences or some plonker wiht the wrong end of the stick pratting on about something no one is interested in..

The last Q/A we had was attended by a lot of big voices on here... too scared to actually repeat themselves in public...

so if there useless..questions get side stepped or soft soaped then what is the point..


damm straight!! :) :)

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I said that we ARE a football league club - I didn't say we acted like a football league club.

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I've moaned with the best but the question that I've always wanted to ask is "Why Eric did you not keep your promise and step aside when we got promoted to the FL?"
He said he didn't have the "clout" (money) to enable Stanley to progress if we ever got into the FL, offers were made to him but he didn't go.
My own view is he is old school and not forward thinking enough and now has become a liabilty to Stanley.

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Watch this space on seats update tonight.... The blue seats were plan B There is going to be NO plan B as 900 Red and white seats have arrived in Lancashire and will be at the ground tomorrow 90% are Red so Colour problem solved.

I have this on good authourity has i saw the seats at a previous ground on Tuesday morning and have photo's which i will at some stage forward on to Kippax and Macca for club archive. They come from a current Scottish Premier League Club who have re located thanks to Tesco:rolleyes: they are the same style as we have now and will match up nicely.

Anybody who can help keep an eye on this thread later as SR is posting an update...

Lets keep positive chaps and chapesses (Is that how you spell it) - Most people are giving there best Trust me...

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Really, wow, im surprised at that couldnt attend the last meeting tho didnt have any issues to bring as they were being sorted before then, beleive it not had nowt lol. Shame about people being too intimidated to speak up, was eric there? lol, we had a meeting with the club @ the OSC meeting [just before we announced intentions of the heritage fund - something we wont forget erics face after hahahaha] but i did raise my Q's then without fear lol & neither did macca but left knowing where we stood, but yes u do have a point with soft soaping but once keep pressing it then a straight answer can be sought even if its not a pleasant one & think its why my opinion of late is how it is because of that. Maybe it is a good idea but then maybe not so yes a valid point there.

I noticed they have our free dividing panels being put to use :D

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Where on earth did you get that from? why do you assume they where intimidated.. ? why does everyhting have to be bad ?

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gerraway with ya? :)

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Now how scary is that having the same convo with cashy earlier & that very point was brought up ..................were u eavesdropping :rofl38:

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The last one was for Coley and Jimmy unfortunatly Eric didn't want to take part which stopped a lot of questions being asked. Who was scared, I remember most of the moans at the time got responses although Rob Heys did his best to stop the difficult ones getting through.

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I thought the blue seats where plan A then the red became available...

Never been a doubt that they would arrive.. never been a doubt that they would be put in.. the bit i didnt like was people telling us we had them already... just shows we didnt eh :)

Shame I will be on my way to bournmouth when they arrive... for taking pics not for helping unload haha :)

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Cos thats what i got from your post ????????? Or are u suggesting that people post on here with their opinions or Q's without problem voicing it & yet in person they dont feel to do so :rolleyes::confused:

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Precisely, all well & good telling the fans we are an FL club when the club dont act it, think that causes most of the confusion & moaning from the fans IMHO!

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I didnt hear a peep out of you fella...I spoke up a few times but cant remember what...

I stopped the Q/A I was doing in this website.. lots of good questions and got rob heys to get them all answered... the answers became a bit of a joke... just side stepping and not really answering.... so much so that i didnt want to be part of it.. a good honest Q/A was OK when i started it.. for year or so.. but when it got to the point where an answer wasnt an answer.. well..

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How?

poeple are full of it on here slagging the club off but havent got it in them to do in face to face... thats not being intimidated..thats being softies :)

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I asked two questions that night.

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Yes know a few people like that:rolleyes: but not all of us are tho :cool:

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What time is it
pass the crisps


hehe sorry mate..just my SOH :) . i think i had to leave before the end so would have been after i left...

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I guess your right Tony on the Colour thing... I will forward you some piccies of the seats next week ... have a safe trip to Bournemouth and bring us back three points.

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Are you saying your not a shy little girly ? :)

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Absolutely ... :thankya::D

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Well it looks like they have finally arrived,


Ground development
Friday 13th Feb 2009
http://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/gfx/news/ball.gifhttp://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/gfx/news/line.gif
The seats have arrived, now we need your help!
Accrington Stanley have taken delivery of over 900 plastic seats from St Mirren, and we need your help to off load them from 9.30am on Saturday morning!

Meeting at the Fraser Eagle Stadium we will be taking them from a large articulated lorry and storing them ready to begin fitting in the next week or so.

As many people as possible are required to help with the task, with a free pint or equivalent for those under 18, at the end for all who help!


Fitting date don't you think:rolleyes:

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Form a queue :D

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LOL, come on you lot support your club by helping with the seats you all know you really want :D

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So me going all the way down to bournmouth because the team are playing there.. whats that then?

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would do but accy on sky one 2mozs pls i like to stand so you can keep the seats

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Fully admit, I've never asked a question at a meeting...but, then again, I've never been to a meeting. Live 30 miles away and for various reasons, have to rely on public transport. It's enough hassle and expense getting to night matches, without taking in meetings, too.

I know that'll be seen as a cop out, but I don't see what's so daunting about asking Rob a hostile/awkward question...what's he going to do...launch a kung fu attack on the questioner?...ban them from the FES for life?

However, like Bagpuss, I think there's only one question to be asked now...why doesn't Eric Whalley make good his intention to step down and sell the club to someone who has the financial clout and the ideas to take us further forward (and I don't mean that Horace Batchelor feller!).

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The Blue seats were always Plan B. Can't say we havn't got them, because although they aren't yet at the FES they are 18 miles from the ground, gathering moss!! they've been a plan gone wrong from some 3 years, and now we don't need them are likely to be there for another 3 years!!

I don't think I have ever said seats had arrived at the FES, just knew I could move them cheaply and quickly if no other option!!

Brand new seats cost £25 each to buy without fitting, the blue ones were free, hence the interest.

The blue ones numbered 300; they WOULD have gone on the cowshed, Whinney Hill.

We always planned to put RED seats on the Clayton End, when it became clear (from the experts) that was the cheapest option!!

Modular seating was around £80 per seat, and the space on the Whiney Hill at 3 deep would not have given us the required number to satisfy the FL.

The St Mirren seats are costing considerably less, and based on their average gates of 4K most of them will have never been regularly used!!

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With you all the way on that Grimps :thumbsup:


:D:D:D

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Southern, I personally do not think that you have to justify yourself or the club to us ;) by this forum!! But it is very good of you to do so and I must say that it does put some others at the club to shame (not bothered if they kicked it off for comments like this:rolleyes:) Thanks Southern for your constant support and posts :) Long may it continue.............

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what about a conveyor belt loading em back on? :p

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nobody said YOU did.. so read the thread properly before quoting me in your reply please...

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:)I'll pop down and lend a hand in the morning,limited to time though! anyone elses??:)

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I'm going.

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insanity :p :D

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To prove we now have red and white seats, here are some pics.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...2&d=1234614043

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...3&d=1234614043

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Thanks redash for proof :D tho it hasnt cheered me up knowin one of those buggers are taking me spot lol!

Wonder how long they are going to be stashed there for :rolleyes:

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It'll take until May to bolt them down. I don't envy the people who are going to fit them, they will have to be fitted one at a time.

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reckon they will look better were they are now!:D

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Oh please this is getting funnier otherwise im crying..........does not surprise me at all last minute fix it:(

Absolute laughing stock..................forget lets go back to Peel Park :D

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oh how i wish........... can never be though.:)

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:)Nice shot of my back Redash:D and thanks for the DVD

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You should have stood still then:D

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:)I hadn't finished counting the seats at that point:D

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:) I hope you are saving those pics for Tony:camera8::)

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when are they going in we have home game next weekend then home on tues

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Given what Redash said earlier, I'd say about 14.2 seats a day for the next 10 weeks :D

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lol do we have bolts for the job.are they on the way down in a van too

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Don't give them clues, Eric won't have thought about that.:)

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The seat project is not been driven by Eric Whalley.

EW is quite happy not to add the seats, as currently we can't fill the 1200 have already got.

The good news is (IMHO) that another "team" are "championing" this project, hence the progress!!:rolleyes:

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The Kop The Stretford End The Longside - All legendary terracing, ten years ago or so they were compulsary made all seating and yes the fans had there say but took to the seating and made the best of what they were given and although it will never be the same again they are still great places to be.

Ten years later Accrington Stanley are being asked to comply with the League requirement which we all accepted on gaining promotion, nobody on the magnificent day said "I dont want FL promotion we will have to fit some seats" Lets face facts here...

You the fans dont want seats, The Directors dont want the seats but we must comply, this seat buisness will cost the club a lot of money it hasn't got.

What would you say if The Board ignored the seat regulation and the club were asked to leave the Football League ???

You would rightly come on here in droves and destroy the Board for neglecting the seat issue and will probably ask them to resign en mass.

Dave O'Neill, Mark and all the board have worked hard to ensure the seats will be fitted, two or three rows of seats across the front of The Clayton End will be perfect for the Ultras to drape banners on stood behind that the singers, the terrace will still be a great place to be just like The Kop and the Longside.

It boils down to two things 1, Seats or 2, Football League expulsion the choice is yours.

I am trying to be positve here and yes the situation is far from perfect but it is what we must do to to maintain Football League Status.

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I'm afraid I don't agree. The only reason the Kop makes any noise and the same with the Stretford End is because as big clubs they are allowed to break the law and remain standing.

I can tell you first hand there are times when we had 2 or 3000 on the Longside and it was 100 times louder than it is now. Seats have helped to kill the atmosphere, and even to this day one of the biggest and most constant complaints among Burnley fans is about the constant eviction of home fans by over zealous control freaks in orange jackets who seek every opportunity to enforce the seating rule. The majoirty of fans would still vote for standing areas, myself included.

Yes it's a league requirement but it doesn't mean to say people have to like it, and in defence of those Stanley fans on here who do object to the seats, for some to suggest they would rather see the club be demoted is an insult to them.

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As stated previously, its not the seats - but where they are going and how its been done..... We all know they have to be put in place and we are not disputing that, but some of us believe that with a little more thought/forward planning they might have gone somewhere else! But its all old news now........

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Nice post/thoughts Lancsdave:) Good to see that folks from other clubs with first hand experience know/understand what folks are talking about:rolleyes::D

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I may live with a Stanley fan and give her some friendly stick for it at times but I do understand the passion :D

I'm damn sure all those objecting to the seats would rather see an all seater stadium if it meant Stanley were playing regular football at Championship level or higher, for which all seater is a requirement after a honeymoon period. ;)