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if Mr O'Neil doesn't get his finger out pdq, we could miss out on serious compensation when Liverpool come calling for King John.
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I think we are all worried about the John and Jimmy show because of what the Telegraph reported Jmmy had said! However, later reports show, in the same newspaper, show that John is quite happy to continue working without a contract, bcause that is what he has done for the last 11 years. However, if and when one finally becomes available, he will sign on the dotted line, as will Jimmy. As UKCowboy states in another thread Faux Pas!!!
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May well be Outback, its summat i wouldn't like to have money on though.:eek:
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I would take it as a positive that JC is already making moves for players to shape the squad for next season:)
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if this is till the case it is yet another example of the total incompetance of the existing board and management....
These two have proved to be miracle workers... why even risk them leaving |
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Coley has been linked with the Lincoln job today.
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Spoke to my Lincoln City friends and some students. They don't believe Coley would want to go to Lincoln and think the Lincoln board will go for an up and coming non-league manager.
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Well its coleys fault if stanley hadn't stuffed em, sutton wouldn't have walked. simple.:D;)
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why go to league two . only one thing is coly says players better your self so div 1 over no go
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Having a contract might be seen as bettering yourself.
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have it on very good authority that they are infact favourites to be offered the job by Lincoln.....................Oneil get your head outta your rear end and get them contracted NOW
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If Coley and Jimmy go I can only imagine Staney entering free fall and out f the League
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From 'Lincoln City News '....and if they are anything like The Telegraph , they should know !!
As for the future of Lincoln City Football Club it remains unclear until this evening at least. Most probably, Imps' legend and current coach Grant Brown will get the job as a caretaker-manager; he has to be one of favourites for the full-time post but like Simon Clark last year, it will depend on results should he be given the caretaker role. |
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Coley wont go to another league two club! He always said that! Hes done too much at Accrington to go to another league two club with not as good players as he has got here and with a ground that is just a bit better then Accrington. Hes not bothered by money also so thats no a factor! Hes taking this team on the up! Its his team, hes built off nothing. No way would he throw it away for an extra 300 quid a week. |
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If you had been arsed to read the other posts and my reply to Yonmon, you would have seen that I also do not believe that Coley would go to Lincoln...............BUT that does not stop Him from being a favoured target does it? If you really want to play that game, then how come you are so sure that Coley would not leave for an extra £300 a week (thats more info than I have, whats your scource?).................have you asked Him? If I were in his shoes, ie NO contract, unsure of the direction the club was going (Oniel/Whalley debacle), then I'm not sure I would be willing to continue on an adhoc basis, I would want security for my family etc..................Oh and before you say 'He has said so', remember we are talking football here, how many established managers have said exactly the same thing only to change their minds when another, better paid opportunity came along? I reiterate, I dont believe He will go but I do believe that O'Neil and his numpty Whalley should stop messing around and either put up or bog off for good, because that just might be the straw that breaks the camels back.................Think about it :) |
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fc:stanley is correct
A move to Lincoln or any league 2 club would generally be a sideways step. I think the only exception would be Bradford City. Tranmere fans dont except Les Parry to still be in charge by May, I would suspect Tranmere would be a natural next level club for Coleman & Bell. |
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The only person who knows the shortlist and will decide who gets the managerial job at Lincoln is the Chairman of that club. So the only good authority you could get on that they are favourites for the job their is off him, so thats why i simply asked, do you know Lincolns Chairman? My source is him. When i went to Spain to watch the reds i had a chat with Coley and also at the Ultras End Of Season Do last season. He said he doesn't care about money at all, hes earning more than he was when he was teaching so money isn't an issue. He said he had built his team from day one with him and Jimmy and no-one else and it would take something big for him to move to a bigger and better club. He loves it at Accy as well all know. Talk to him UkCowboy next game , he`ll tell you his views straight forward. Hes had no contract for all these years knowing accy has no money! Were in a better financial position now with him being not under contract then he has been for alllll these years. With Iliyas, better team, getting better crowds, a possibility of a new ground. So why would he leave now? Bradford were favourites last season to land him, we were in a worse financial position then and Bradford are a big big club! Same with Tranmere. Did he go.... Anyway , im not arguing about your views on Coley going as i wasnt quoting you on that as your comments i mostly agree on from the page before. Dont we all wish they would sort out the mess regarding the chairman position. Eric should of been long gone. |
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yer last line sums up everyones feelings i think fc, n thats what concerns me, could be the "Straw that broke the camels back"??? these things do happen, just hope it dont.:eek:
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FC, my apologies..............have just re read my original post and can now see where you were coming from ( I think!)............please exchange the word 'offered' to 'considered for'............ I do however stand by the rest of my post ie possible reasons that JC MAY consider any offer.....................I hope He dosent tho! As for Whalley/DoN.......we are in agreement :) Peace ! |
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http://www.old-picture.com/american-...ping-Woman.jpg Can we hope that he is a man of his word ?. |
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I remember that Steve Thompson when he was managing Notts County. He got sent from the dugout when they played at the Crown and got into an arguement with some of the main-standers.
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need to get them signed up fast! there the best thing thats happened to stanley, would be a shame to lose them.
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Understandable wouldn't blame em.:eek:
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Now they want one. They've agreed terms. Give it to them. Put your ego down for just a second O'Neill and get it sorted. You can screw in seats until your fingers are raw in order to gain status but if we lose Coleman and Bell I assure you, you will not get a moment's rest until you are gone from this club. |
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Ultras are on it!!! :D
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Bell “We’ve not heard anything directly from Lincoln, we’ve just heard a couple of rumours. They might be struggling positionally but they’re not financially, and they’re a big club. If anyone was to offer us anything we would have to speak to them. We have still not got our contract situation sorted and there may come a point where you have to look after yourself. It has been going on for nearly 12 months now. The contracts are all agreed but I don’t know who’s offering us the contract or who owns the club. But of course we want to stay here. We love the place---------------------------------------------------- its obvious to me, that any trust/faith they had in those clowns has evaporated! those at the helm care nowt fer the team/fans, all they are concerned wi is SELF PRESERVATION.:mad: |
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a certain manager called John has had no time for Oneill from day one.
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Interesting developments...................maybe I wasnt so far off the mark afterall.
DON you idiot, GET IT SORTED NOW |
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Until the ownership & control issue is sorted the duo wont sign any contract - why would they commit to an insecure future when the back room is bitter:rolleyes:
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To treat JC and JB with such contempt is totally unacceptable and we as fans should now be making those who 'run' the club aware of the depth and strenghth of feeling on the matter. |
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It's about time those at the top were shown the door,nonchalant about everything be it club at risk of going under or treating a management team who deserve the upmost respect by rewarding them with a written contract like they owe them something instead! Do what's right or be gone!!
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Any other Clubs who might have an eye on the Coley & Jimmy will not have failed to been impressed by Today's Scoreline or if they watch the highlights to see what they have instilled and brought to Accy over & over again down the years.:)
Whatever the hold up is it is a no brainer to I would imagine everyone with Stanley at heart and summat between there ears:( |
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From today's Telegraph... Chief executive Rob Heys said: “They have done a great job and we hope they will be at Accrington for many years to come. “They do have a rolling contract, it’s not as if they haven’t got anything. “But it would be nice now the season has started to get the contracts sorted.” Will someone please tell him about D o'N's typist who has been hard at it since April ....or was the MD (?)s pronouncement merely a sly and sneaky ruse to discombobulate all who would like to see the affairs of Accrington Stanley placed on an even keel...It's enough to make one feel that prevarication is afoot, which is for Managers,Players and we Supporters just not on!.. and from Jimmy Bell....(Same article!)..... “If anyone was to offer us anything we would have to speak to them. “We have still not got our contract situation sorted and there may come a point where you have to look after yourself. “It has been going on for nearly 12 months now. The contracts are all agreed but I don’t know who’s offering us the contract or who owns the club. “But of course we want to stay here. We love the place.” Now isn't this a sad state of affairs ??....I'm sure that I am not only speaking for myself when I say that it is so disappointing after seeing the results of John and Jimmy's Managing and coaching this afternoon, to read these words...I only hope that it does not become a self-fulfilling prophesy !!....I am beginning to despair again !! |
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From Coley's comments on the lapses in today's game:
"The lads know they're responsible, it's not as if they're going to hide behind anything. They've held their hands up...." How wonderful it would be if those in the most senior positions in ASFC [i.e. the owner(s) - whoever he/they may be] could follow the example of the players who represent them (and us) so magnificently. |
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Accrington Stanley boss Coleman top of Lincoln's wanted list (From Lancashire Telegraph)
This situation has gone beyond a joke now. How much longer do we have to wait for you to do the right thing, O'Neill? :mad: :mad: :mad: |
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Something similar from their end Wyn: John Coleman is top choice to become Imps' new manager – and he's interested
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I hate to say it, but can I refer FC Stanley to my earlier post on this subject?
This really does go beyond the pale, O'Neil MUST sort this and GO! |
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Coleman is a legend here and whatever happens I will love him and his offspring's offspring forever, but I would be really disappointed at the lack of ambition if he moved to Lincoln. Kind of a Kenny Arthur situation but on a much, much larger scale.
This uncertainty cannot be good for the players. As soon as we get things right on the field with the best team we've ever had, the cancer that is O'Neill moves to destroy everything. Come on Ilyas, boot him into touch already and let's get the duo tied down to the big fat contracts they deserve. |
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i would be disappointed big time if they left, but don't think its a lack of ambition shaker, to want yer money when its due n the same fer yer players? n to also want the contract ya were promised, whilst lincoln aint chelsea, there a a damn site more stable than us. attract bigger gates, therefore giving management more funds to play with. Oneil has treated coley n bell wi nowt but disdain imho.:mad:
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If Coleman took over at Lincoln - even with the benefits of a better wage, a solid contract and better facilities to use - he would be judged by how much mediocrity he could achieve in the same league as he is in us. With the hideous impatience shown by League Two boardrooms, who's to say he would be given the time necessary to exercise the "potential" at Lincoln that he speaks of? I suppose we can throw pro/con lists at it all we want but our only hope is that someone pulls their finger out around here and gets these contracts signed. It really is ridiculous. |
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Its time for change indeed but not the manager!
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Latest from Lincoln
John Coleman is top choice to become Imps' new manager – and he's interested |
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NO SMOKE WITHOUT FIRE CASHY ????. Just heard 2pm News and they say Coley is Favourite for the Job...and an interview with Ilyas Khan reveals again his surprise that JC and JB have not been given their Contracts !!...IK Describes JC as 'The best Manager in the Football League !!. WHAT IS GOING ON !!! |
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From Sky Sports this morning !.. http://img.skysports.com/09/08/218x2...an_2348163.jpg Coleman: Interested in Imps post Related links Teams Accrington boss John Coleman has refused to rule himself out of the running to become Lincoln's new manager. The Imps are looking for a successor to Chris Sutton,http://static.lingospot.com/spot/image/spacer.gif who resigned last week after a year in charge at Sincil Bank. Coleman'shttp://static.lingospot.com/spot/image/spacer.gif experience and success of working with a tight budget has reportedly put him on Lincoln's list of targets. "You can never rule anything out in football and Lincoln are a big club and the potential of their fan base is massive," Coleman told the Lincolnshire Echo. "I've always said if you do not have any ambition, then you are in danger of going backwards. That is something I don't want to happen." Quite revealing...and scary too ! NB...FOLLOW LINKS FOR FULL STORY !! |
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just bin out wi the dog to think, n i can only see 2 outcomes to this saga!
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And therein lies the problem with O'Neill. Nowhere have I seen any statement of ambition that he has for the club. Unlike Ilyas Khan who has stated his ambitions very clearly, but these ambitions are evidently not to the liking of EW and DO'N. As many others have often said, these two will take us backwards. |
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Until O'neill and Heys are gone, we will never move forward.
And we need to banish Whalley once and for all. Iylas needs needs to recognise his kindness to Eric is noble but damaging. |
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Heard on the radio earlier. And it's on MailOnline - sorry, can't do links - but JC is not apparently on their shortlist. Formet Southend boss Steve Tilson, Luton's Gary Brabin and, wait for it, former Tottenham man Justin Edinburgh.
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I'm almost sure that he also described their present situation as one which places these respected and revered lads in a situation which has ignominy written all over it !. Not wanting to sound a note of doom but.... http://oneyearbibleimages.com/belshazzar.jpg And it all came true ! |
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Latest Lincoln manager odds:
Football Specials - Manager Specials - Coupons :( |
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Ive never EVER known any organisation around the world that is as poorly run as Stanley.
We have an unbelievable manager & assistant and yet still nothing is done. Enough is ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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The time for talking always seems to come and go around the Club:mad: I personally will be stepping things up a gear in terms of making my feelings known by showing my Support for Coley & Jimmy hopefully come Saturday at Bury as well as making other feelings known. The sagas surrounding the Club can't keep going on and on they do nobody any favours but just keep dragging us all down at a time when things are going so right on the field. |
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Perhaps now is the time for fans to put on a concerted effort to show the numpties in charge (DON/WHALLEY) just how fed up we are of the whole thing............and yes I am talking PROTESTS..........support the players/management whilst on the field but make our feelings known pre match, half time, and post match both home and away......(stewards permitting away) There will be some who say that protesting is wrong, well to that I say so is the way the club is being run! Wake up, smell the coffee, now is the time for DIRECT action, get the press,TV etc onboard and lets get rid of the cancer that is spreading within our club once and for all. :mad::mad::mad: Again some will say that we cant/wont make an ounce of difference.............I say what have we got to lose by trying? Ideas/suggestions anyone? |
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How many people off Accyweb would actually turn up to one UK?
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BBC Sport - Football - Lincoln City chairman Bob Dorrian eyes experienced boss
Talking of being prepared to pay compensation, if they need to :rolleyes: Chance would be a fine thing :rolleyes: :mad: :mad: |
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The silence is deafing not only on Oneil side but also on the 100% transparant side as well
Stuff your bickering DON / Ilyass / who ever "owns" our club!!! and give the real men at the club the reward they deserve |
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Latest betting on the new Lincoln Manager at 8pm tonight
John Coleman 7/2 Steve Tilson 7/2 Mark Proctor 6/1 Paul Hurst/Rob Scott 7/1 Dave Penney 7/1 Steve Thompson/M*ick Harford 9/1 Justin Edinburgh 9/1 Gareth Ainsworth 10/1 Coley's odds getting shorter by the hour. Short list drawn up on Thursday. Will he or won't he? Let's not wait to find out. OFFER HIM A NEW CONTRACT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!!!! |
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I would say a bigger worry would be Bradford city. Thy've lost again tonight. If Taylor gets the push there i could see them looking at JC and if he thinks Lincoln's fanbase is "massive" what does that make Bradfords?
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Dave Blackledge . This needs to be signed NOW get it done Stanley !!! |
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Just to add another perspective to this arguement.....
IF Coley and Bell end up walking away to another club, do the powers that be, expect to get somebody else in to work without a recognised contract, with little or no money and do such a sterling job???:mad: Or is there no shortage of would be managers who would work under such conditions ??? Personally I doubt it:mad: SORT OUT THEIR CONTRACTS NOW!! |
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they have no other clubs in thier locality and could in theory develop into an established championship club. |
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Dorrian added: "We'll draw up a shortlist on Thursday based on the applications we've received and also proactively, on the part of the board, look in terms of managers who may already be at other clubs JC wouldn't actually apply for the job...or would he ??. |
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I am not too worried about JC and JB, I think they will stay as Lincoln is not a club that can offer them the opportunity of taking a club that nobody expects to stay up possibly into League 1. I think if JC took the job at Sincil Bank he would put himself in a similar position to Owen Coyle. In the fact that although they will have better facilities, higher budgets to utilise etc, they will just end up in a slipstream of mediocrity.
Everyone would expect JC to keep Lincoln in League 2 and nothing else would really happen. If he stays at Accrington what has he actually got to lose, he has already enhanced his reputation now to the point where he has been linked with Hereford, Bradford and Lincoln in the past 4 months. This season he has a real chance of gaining promotion with Accrington and even if he doesn't it will only boost his managerial reputation. Staying at Accrington will keep his name in the fold for plenty more jobs probably at a higher level, there would a lack of this going to Lincoln as expecations are 22nd place and not much else. Doing this would not raise his profile, a la Owen Coyle. I hope he sees the bigger picture and stays with Stanley, yes the backroom team at the club needs to be improved massively but with Ilyas involved then this will change. |
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Wouldnt just be like apporaching a player with no contract, also if they do go, who takes over us as caretaker? Eric :D
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I wonder if 'THEY' share this sentiment ??.If so, then 'THEY' seemingly are not to keen to follow Ilyas's example and proclaim it !.. |
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This time last year it was save our Stanley this year it's save our Coleman and bell !
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