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cashman 04-06-2010 09:04

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 820141)
So let's get this right, you have every confidence in Ilyas, despite the fact that you think what he's doing is "morally wrong".

...and you're showing that confidence by...not turning up for home matches, refusing to buy a season ticket or merchandise and urging others to do the same.

I'd hate to see how you react to somebody you don't have confidence in! :rolleyes:

The mind Boggles.:rolleyes:

LongLostSon 04-06-2010 22:51

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if Mr O'Neil doesn't get his finger out pdq, we could miss out on serious compensation when Liverpool come calling for King John.

Outback Ozzy 05-06-2010 10:06

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I think we are all worried about the John and Jimmy show because of what the Telegraph reported Jmmy had said! However, later reports show, in the same newspaper, show that John is quite happy to continue working without a contract, bcause that is what he has done for the last 11 years. However, if and when one finally becomes available, he will sign on the dotted line, as will Jimmy. As UKCowboy states in another thread Faux Pas!!!

cashman 05-06-2010 10:13

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May well be Outback, its summat i wouldn't like to have money on though.:eek:

Pendle Red 05-06-2010 10:58

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I would take it as a positive that JC is already making moves for players to shape the squad for next season:)

cashman 23-07-2010 19:29

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Originally Posted by Pendle Red (Post 820356)
I would take it as a positive that JC is already making moves for players to shape the squad for next season:)

Yep but NOT very positive this still aint been sorted out, unless O'Neil aint bothered to tell anybody.:(

yonmon 26-09-2010 16:11

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 819270)
Don't worry, all's well, O'Neill has said it's "just a case of it being typed up and signed."

Oh hang on a minute, that was on April 16th.

Maybe, Stanley's typist is just very slow. :rolleyes:

Have I, as I often do on our Forum, missed something ?..
or is she still typing ??.

Peterdavies 26-09-2010 17:22

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if this is till the case it is yet another example of the total incompetance of the existing board and management....

These two have proved to be miracle workers...

why even risk them leaving

ukcowboy 26-09-2010 23:40

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Originally Posted by Peterdavies (Post 847737)
if this is till the case it is yet another example of the total incompetance of the existing board and management....

These two have proved to be miracle workers...

why even risk them leaving

To the best of my knowledge the situation has not changed..............no doubt 'O whats his name' will have it sorted NEXT WEEK ;)

Crossy42 30-09-2010 09:47

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Coley has been linked with the Lincoln job today.

mab 30-09-2010 11:23

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Originally Posted by Crossy42 (Post 848648)
Coley has been linked with the Lincoln job today.

Is it 1st of April already:rolleyes::D

cashman 30-09-2010 11:25

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Originally Posted by Crossy42 (Post 848648)
Coley has been linked with the Lincoln job today.

yeh n elvis was seen in south america,:D

MikeA 30-09-2010 11:48

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 848666)
yeh n elvis was seen in south america,:D

Nah! How can he be in South America when everyone knows he's working in a chipshop in Helmshore? ;)

teach 30-09-2010 11:53

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Spoke to my Lincoln City friends and some students. They don't believe Coley would want to go to Lincoln and think the Lincoln board will go for an up and coming non-league manager.

cashman 30-09-2010 12:04

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Well its coleys fault if stanley hadn't stuffed em, sutton wouldn't have walked. simple.:D;)

Grimps 30-09-2010 12:41

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why go to league two . only one thing is coly says players better your self so div 1 over no go

Lost in Cornwall 30-09-2010 13:36

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Having a contract might be seen as bettering yourself.

ukcowboy 30-09-2010 13:55

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have it on very good authority that they are infact favourites to be offered the job by Lincoln.....................Oneil get your head outta your rear end and get them contracted NOW

widnes viking 30-09-2010 17:15

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If Coley and Jimmy go I can only imagine Staney entering free fall and out f the League

yonmon 30-09-2010 17:55

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Originally Posted by ukcowboy (Post 848695)
have it on very good authority that they are infact favourites to be offered the job by Lincoln.....................Oneil get your head outta your rear end and get them contracted NOW

As I have indicated before Cowboy......

http://i.treehugger.com/images/2007/...ing%20pigs.jpg

Agree ?????.

yonmon 30-09-2010 18:04

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From 'Lincoln City News '....and if they are anything like The Telegraph , they should know !!

As for the future of Lincoln City Football Club it remains unclear until this evening at least. Most probably, Imps' legend and current coach Grant Brown will get the job as a caretaker-manager; he has to be one of favourites for the full-time post but like Simon Clark last year, it will depend on results should he be given the caretaker role.

ukcowboy 30-09-2010 18:08

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Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 848736)
As I have indicated before Cowboy......

http://i.treehugger.com/images/2007/...ing%20pigs.jpg

Agree ?????.

Very much so yon, however the club should get this debacle sorted out sooner rather than later.

fc:stanley 30-09-2010 21:45

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Originally Posted by ukcowboy (Post 848695)
have it on very good authority that they are infact favourites to be offered the job by Lincoln.....................Oneil get your head outta your rear end and get them contracted NOW

So you know Lincolns chairman very personally then?

Coley wont go to another league two club! He always said that! Hes done too much at Accrington to go to another league two club with not as good players as he has got here and with a ground that is just a bit better then Accrington. Hes not bothered by money also so thats no a factor! Hes taking this team on the up! Its his team, hes built off nothing. No way would he throw it away for an extra 300 quid a week.

ukcowboy 30-09-2010 22:23

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Originally Posted by fc:stanley (Post 848787)
So you know Lincolns chairman very personally then?

Coley wont go to another league two club! He always said that! Hes done too much at Accrington to go to another league two club with not as good players as he has got here and with a ground that is just a bit better then Accrington. Hes not bothered by money also so thats no a factor! Hes taking this team on the up! Its his team, hes built off nothing. No way would he throw it away for an extra 300 quid a week.

Did I ever say I did ya numpty? Why jump to that obviously stupid conclusion?...................Every time I or anyone else on here says something even remotely contraversial it appears that you seem to take umbridge and come out with ill thought out comments like the one Ive highlighted.

If you had been arsed to read the other posts and my reply to Yonmon, you would have seen that I also do not believe that Coley would go to Lincoln...............BUT that does not stop Him from being a favoured target does it?

If you really want to play that game, then how come you are so sure that Coley would not leave for an extra £300 a week (thats more info than I have, whats your scource?).................have you asked Him? If I were in his shoes, ie NO contract, unsure of the direction the club was going (Oniel/Whalley debacle), then I'm not sure I would be willing to continue on an adhoc basis, I would want security for my family etc..................Oh and before you say 'He has said so', remember we are talking football here, how many established managers have said exactly the same thing only to change their minds when another, better paid opportunity came along?

I reiterate, I dont believe He will go but I do believe that O'Neil and his numpty Whalley should stop messing around and either put up or bog off for good, because that just might be the straw that breaks the camels back.................Think about it :)

DAV007 30-09-2010 22:31

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fc:stanley is correct

A move to Lincoln or any league 2 club would generally be a sideways step.
I think the only exception would be Bradford City.

Tranmere fans dont except Les Parry to still be in charge by May, I would suspect Tranmere would be a natural next level club for Coleman & Bell.

cashman 30-09-2010 22:51

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Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 848799)
fc:stanley is correct

A move to Lincoln or any league 2 club would generally be a sideways step.
I think the only exception would be Bradford City.

Tranmere fans dont except Les Parry to still be in charge by May, I would suspect Tranmere would be a natural next level club for Coleman & Bell.

sorry davo thats as naive as fc, in 77 i walked outa a trade fer n extra £70 a week, a backward step some said, was a better standard of living fer me family simple as, ya just never know with people. plus only sideways if ya discount getting yer wages when there due. i think coley won't go to lincoln if offered, but ya never know, loads of factors why he might.

fc:stanley 30-09-2010 22:52

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Originally Posted by ukcowboy (Post 848798)
Did I ever say I did ya numpty? Why jump to that obviously stupid conclusion?...................Every time I or anyone else on here says something even remotely contraversial it appears that you seem to take umbridge and come out with ill thought out comments like the one Ive highlighted.

If you had been arsed to read the other posts and my reply to Yonmon, you would have seen that I also do not believe that Coley would go to Lincoln...............BUT that does not stop Him from being a favoured target does it?

If you really want to play that game, then how come you are so sure that Coley would not leave for an extra £300 a week (thats more info than I have, whats your scource?).................have you asked Him? If I were in his shoes, ie NO contract, unsure of the direction the club was going (Oniel/Whalley debacle), then I'm not sure I would be willing to continue on an adhoc basis, I would want security for my family etc..................Oh and before you say 'He has said so', remember we are talking football here, how many established managers have said exactly the same thing only to change their minds when another, better paid opportunity came along?

I reiterate, I dont believe He will go but I do believe that O'Neil and his numpty Whalley should stop messing around and either put up or bog off for good, because that just might be the straw that breaks the camels back.................Think about it :)

Numpty, i wasnt quoting you on what you thought about Coley and the posts about him going/not going. The second paragraph was nothing relevant to your post.

The only person who knows the shortlist and will decide who gets the managerial job at Lincoln is the Chairman of that club. So the only good authority you could get on that they are favourites for the job their is off him, so thats why i simply asked, do you know Lincolns Chairman?

My source is him. When i went to Spain to watch the reds i had a chat with Coley and also at the Ultras End Of Season Do last season. He said he doesn't care about money at all, hes earning more than he was when he was teaching so money isn't an issue. He said he had built his team from day one with him and Jimmy and no-one else and it would take something big for him to move to a bigger and better club. He loves it at Accy as well all know. Talk to him UkCowboy next game , he`ll tell you his views straight forward. Hes had no contract for all these years knowing accy has no money! Were in a better financial position now with him being not under contract then he has been for alllll these years. With Iliyas, better team, getting better crowds, a possibility of a new ground. So why would he leave now?

Bradford were favourites last season to land him, we were in a worse financial position then and Bradford are a big big club! Same with Tranmere. Did he go....

Anyway , im not arguing about your views on Coley going as i wasnt quoting you on that as your comments i mostly agree on from the page before.

Dont we all wish they would sort out the mess regarding the chairman position. Eric should of been long gone.

cashman 30-09-2010 23:11

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yer last line sums up everyones feelings i think fc, n thats what concerns me, could be the "Straw that broke the camels back"??? these things do happen, just hope it dont.:eek:

ukcowboy 30-09-2010 23:13

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Originally Posted by ukcowboy (Post 848695)
have it on very good authority that they are infact favourites to be offered the job by Lincoln.....................Oneil get your head outta your rear end and get them contracted NOW


FC, my apologies..............have just re read my original post and can now see where you were coming from ( I think!)............please exchange the word 'offered' to 'considered for'............

I do however stand by the rest of my post ie possible reasons that JC MAY consider any offer.....................I hope He dosent tho!

As for Whalley/DoN.......we are in agreement :)

Peace !

yonmon 01-10-2010 09:52

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Originally Posted by ukcowboy (Post 848805)
FC, my apologies..............have just re read my original post and can now see where you were coming from ( I think!)............please exchange the word 'offered' to 'considered for'............

I do however stand by the rest of my post ie possible reasons that JC MAY consider any offer.....................I hope He dosent tho!

As for Whalley/DoN.......we are in agreement :)

Peace !

My little bird at the Crown reports to me that D o'N's Typist is still going flat-out and another week or so might..........
http://www.old-picture.com/american-...ping-Woman.jpg

Can we hope that he is a man of his word ?.

JEFF 01-10-2010 10:57

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Latest from Lincoln

Mick Harford and Steve Thompson are interested in Lincoln City top job

cashman 01-10-2010 11:13

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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 848865)

Cheers jeff have just voted fer Mick Harford.:D;)

VALAIRIAN 01-10-2010 13:19

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And me...

VALAIRIAN 01-10-2010 14:48

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Originally Posted by Crossy42 (Post 848648)
Coley has been linked with the Lincoln job today.

And no doubt he is being linked with a move to The Walkers Stadium today :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :)

Trapdoor 01-10-2010 17:05

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I remember that Steve Thompson when he was managing Notts County. He got sent from the dugout when they played at the Crown and got into an arguement with some of the main-standers.

fc:stanley 01-10-2010 17:11

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 848889)
And no doubt he is being linked with a move to The Walkers Stadium today :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :)

See thats one you could understand...

lancsdave 01-10-2010 17:14

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Originally Posted by fc:stanley (Post 848916)
See thats one you could understand...

Actually it would be the least understandable. Why would he leave a permanent job for a 3 month temp position :D

Gribbster 01-10-2010 17:23

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need to get them signed up fast! there the best thing thats happened to stanley, would be a shame to lose them.

MCR ADIM 01-10-2010 23:00

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Accrington Stanley duo would speak to Lincoln City (From Lancashire Telegraph)

cashman 01-10-2010 23:04

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Understandable wouldn't blame em.:eek:

shakermaker 01-10-2010 23:13

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Bell
“We’ve not heard anything directly from Lincoln, we’ve just heard a couple of rumours. They might be struggling positionally but they’re not financially, and they’re a big club. If anyone was to offer us anything we would have to speak to them. We have still not got our contract situation sorted and there may come a point where you have to look after yourself. It has been going on for nearly 12 months now. The contracts are all agreed but I don’t know who’s offering us the contract or who owns the club. But of course we want to stay here. We love the place.”

For a long time they didn't need a formal contract.
Now they want one.
They've agreed terms.
Give it to them.

Put your ego down for just a second O'Neill and get it sorted. You can screw in seats until your fingers are raw in order to gain status but if we lose Coleman and Bell I assure you, you will not get a moment's rest until you are gone from this club.

mab 01-10-2010 23:34

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 849003)
Understandable wouldn't blame em.:eek:

:( Neither i cashy!!!!!!!!!:(4months on from when this was first high lighted and still no sign of a contract.With the mirricals john and jimmy have performed they and the fans deserve better imho:(

John_Timmins 02-10-2010 10:00

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Ultras are on it!!! :D

Stanleymad 02-10-2010 10:07

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Originally Posted by John_Timmins (Post 849060)
Ultras are on it!!! :D

Oh ayee contractual or kidnap:D:D:D

cashman 02-10-2010 10:42

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Bell
“We’ve not heard anything directly from Lincoln, we’ve just heard a couple of rumours. They might be struggling positionally but they’re not financially, and they’re a big club. If anyone was to offer us anything we would have to speak to them. We have still not got our contract situation sorted and there may come a point where you have to look after yourself. It has been going on for nearly 12 months now. The contracts are all agreed but I don’t know who’s offering us the contract or who owns the club. But of course we want to stay here. We love the place---------------------------------------------------- its obvious to me, that any trust/faith they had in those clowns has evaporated! those at the helm care nowt fer the team/fans, all they are concerned wi is SELF PRESERVATION.:mad:

DAV007 02-10-2010 11:12

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a certain manager called John has had no time for Oneill from day one.

ukcowboy 02-10-2010 12:04

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Interesting developments...................maybe I wasnt so far off the mark afterall.

DON you idiot, GET IT SORTED NOW

Stanleymad 02-10-2010 12:10

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Until the ownership & control issue is sorted the duo wont sign any contract - why would they commit to an insecure future when the back room is bitter:rolleyes:

ukcowboy 02-10-2010 12:26

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Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 849097)
Until the ownership & control issue is sorted the duo wont sign any contract - why would they commit to an insecure future when the back room is bitter:rolleyes:

Couldnt agree more SM, and IMHO the longer the saga goes on, the more likely, that should an acceptable offer come along, whether that be Lincoln or another club, then the dynamic duo will have to seriously consider moving on.

To treat JC and JB with such contempt is totally unacceptable and we as fans should now be making those who 'run' the club aware of the depth and strenghth of feeling on the matter.

madkev 02-10-2010 13:51

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It's about time those at the top were shown the door,nonchalant about everything be it club at risk of going under or treating a management team who deserve the upmost respect by rewarding them with a written contract like they owe them something instead! Do what's right or be gone!!

Pendle Red 02-10-2010 17:44

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Any other Clubs who might have an eye on the Coley & Jimmy will not have failed to been impressed by Today's Scoreline or if they watch the highlights to see what they have instilled and brought to Accy over & over again down the years.:)

Whatever the hold up is it is a no brainer to I would imagine everyone with Stanley at heart and summat between there ears:(

cashman 02-10-2010 18:05

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Originally Posted by Pendle Red (Post 849291)
Any other Clubs who might have an eye on the Coley & Jimmy will not have failed to been impressed by Today's Scoreline or if they watch the highlights to see what they have instilled and brought to Accy over & over again down the years.:)

Whatever the hold up is it is a no brainer to I would imagine everyone with Stanley at heart and summat between there ears:(

yer quite correct neil, but yer referring to people wi no brains.:rolleyes:

yonmon 02-10-2010 18:50

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Originally Posted by ukcowboy (Post 849104)
Couldnt agree more SM, and IMHO the longer the saga goes on, the more likely, that should an acceptable offer come along, whether that be Lincoln or another club, then the dynamic duo will have to seriously consider moving on.

To treat JC and JB with such contempt is totally unacceptable and we as fans should now be making those who 'run' the club aware of the depth and strenghth of feeling on the matter.


From today's Telegraph...


Chief executive Rob Heys said: “They have done a great job and we hope they will be at Accrington for many years to come.
“They do have a rolling contract, it’s not as if they haven’t got anything.
“But it would be nice now the season has started to get the contracts sorted.”

Will someone please tell him about D o'N's typist who has been hard at it since April ....or was the MD (?)s pronouncement merely a sly and sneaky ruse to discombobulate all who would like to see the affairs of Accrington Stanley placed on an even keel...It's enough to make one feel that prevarication is afoot, which is for Managers,Players and we Supporters just not on!..

and from Jimmy Bell....(Same article!).....

If anyone was to offer us anything we would have to speak to them.
“We have still not got our contract situation sorted and there may come a point where you have to look after yourself.
“It has been going on for nearly 12 months now. The contracts are all agreed but I don’t know who’s offering us the contract or who owns the club.
“But of course we want to stay here. We love the place.”

Now isn't this a sad state of affairs ??....I'm sure that I am not only speaking for myself when I say that it is so disappointing after seeing the results of John and Jimmy's Managing and coaching this afternoon, to read these words...I only hope that it does not become a self-fulfilling prophesy !!....I am beginning to despair again !!


Revived Red 02-10-2010 20:41

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From Coley's comments on the lapses in today's game:

"The lads know they're responsible, it's not as if they're going to hide behind anything. They've held their hands up...."

How wonderful it would be if those in the most senior positions in ASFC [i.e. the owner(s) - whoever he/they may be] could follow the example of the players who represent them (and us) so magnificently.

Wynonie Harris 05-10-2010 11:43

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Accrington Stanley boss Coleman top of Lincoln's wanted list (From Lancashire Telegraph)

This situation has gone beyond a joke now. How much longer do we have to wait for you to do the right thing, O'Neill? :mad: :mad: :mad:

shakermaker 05-10-2010 11:54

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Something similar from their end Wyn: John Coleman is top choice to become Imps' new manager – and he's interested

ukcowboy 05-10-2010 12:09

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I hate to say it, but can I refer FC Stanley to my earlier post on this subject?

This really does go beyond the pale, O'Neil MUST sort this and GO!

shakermaker 05-10-2010 12:27

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Coleman is a legend here and whatever happens I will love him and his offspring's offspring forever, but I would be really disappointed at the lack of ambition if he moved to Lincoln. Kind of a Kenny Arthur situation but on a much, much larger scale.

This uncertainty cannot be good for the players. As soon as we get things right on the field with the best team we've ever had, the cancer that is O'Neill moves to destroy everything. Come on Ilyas, boot him into touch already and let's get the duo tied down to the big fat contracts they deserve.

Stanleymad 05-10-2010 12:35

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 849983)

This uncertainty cannot be good for the players. As soon as we get things right on the field with the best team we've ever had, the cancer that is O'Neill moves to destroy everything. Come on Ilyas, boot him into touch already and let's get the duo tied down to the big fat contracts they deserve.

All i can say is patience my friend;);):D

cashman 05-10-2010 12:36

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i would be disappointed big time if they left, but don't think its a lack of ambition shaker, to want yer money when its due n the same fer yer players? n to also want the contract ya were promised, whilst lincoln aint chelsea, there a a damn site more stable than us. attract bigger gates, therefore giving management more funds to play with. Oneil has treated coley n bell wi nowt but disdain imho.:mad:

shakermaker 05-10-2010 12:54

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 849985)
i would be disappointed big time if they left, but don't think its a lack of ambition shaker, to want yer money when its due n the same fer yer players? n to also want the contract ya were promised, whilst lincoln aint chelsea, there a a damn site more stable than us. attract bigger gates, therefore giving management more funds to play with. Oneil has treated coley n bell wi nowt but disdain imho.

All fair points Cashy, but I believe that Coleman could quite easily be taken on at a Championship club. If Nigel bloody Clough can do it, so can Coley. Hence the 'lack of ambition' statement.

If Coleman took over at Lincoln - even with the benefits of a better wage, a solid contract and better facilities to use - he would be judged by how much mediocrity he could achieve in the same league as he is in us. With the hideous impatience shown by League Two boardrooms, who's to say he would be given the time necessary to exercise the "potential" at Lincoln that he speaks of?

I suppose we can throw pro/con lists at it all we want but our only hope is that someone pulls their finger out around here and gets these contracts signed. It really is ridiculous.

loweiy 05-10-2010 12:56

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Its time for change indeed but not the manager!

JEFF 05-10-2010 12:57

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Latest from Lincoln
John Coleman is top choice to become Imps' new manager – and he's interested

yonmon 05-10-2010 12:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 849985)
i would be disappointed big time if they left, but don't think its a lack of ambition shaker, to want yer money when its due n the same fer yer players? n to also want the contract ya were promised, whilst lincoln aint chelsea, there a a damn site more stable than us. attract bigger gates, therefore giving management more funds to play with. Oneil has treated coley n bell wi nowt but disdain imho.:mad:

Re. Lincoln and JC....heard that Radio Lancs suggest today (5th) that they have made an offer !!...

NO SMOKE WITHOUT FIRE CASHY ????.


Just heard 2pm News and they say Coley is Favourite for the Job...and an interview with Ilyas Khan reveals again his surprise that JC and JB have not been given their Contracts !!...IK Describes JC as 'The best Manager in the Football League !!.

WHAT IS GOING ON !!!

cashman 05-10-2010 13:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by loweiy (Post 849990)
Its time for change indeed but not the manager!

agree, just hope it aint too late.:eek:

yonmon 05-10-2010 13:20

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 849993)
agree, just hope it aint too late.:eek:

Just might be at that Cashy !!..

From Sky Sports this morning !..

http://img.skysports.com/09/08/218x2...an_2348163.jpg Coleman: Interested in Imps post
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Accrington boss John Coleman has refused to rule himself out of the running to become Lincoln's new manager.
The Imps are looking for a successor to Chris Sutton,http://static.lingospot.com/spot/image/spacer.gif who resigned last week after a year in charge at Sincil Bank.
Coleman'shttp://static.lingospot.com/spot/image/spacer.gif experience and success of working with a tight budget has reportedly put him on Lincoln's list of targets.
"You can never rule anything out in football and Lincoln are a big club and the potential of their fan base is massive," Coleman told the Lincolnshire Echo.
"I've always said if you do not have any ambition, then you are in danger of going backwards. That is something I don't want to happen."


Quite revealing...and scary too !


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cashman 05-10-2010 13:54

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just bin out wi the dog to think, n i can only see 2 outcomes to this saga!
  1. Coley n jimmy are playing a game of bluff in attempt to make these ******* sort it.
  2. We have reached "The straw that broke the camels back"
if the latter which i fear it may be, any acceptable deal from another club n its goodnight vienna, ya can only take loyalty so far.:eek: just my opinion, but can anyone see n alternative?

Revived Red 05-10-2010 13:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 849995)
"I've always said if you do not have any ambition, then you are in danger of going backwards.

Well said, Coley. How very true.

And therein lies the problem with O'Neill. Nowhere have I seen any statement of ambition that he has for the club. Unlike Ilyas Khan who has stated his ambitions very clearly, but these ambitions are evidently not to the liking of EW and DO'N. As many others have often said, these two will take us backwards.

Wynonie Harris 05-10-2010 14:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 850001)
just bin out wi the dog to think, n i can only see 2 outcomes to this saga!
  1. Coley n jimmy are playing a game of bluff in attempt to make these ******* sort it.
  2. We have reached "The straw that broke the camels back"
if the latter which i fear it may be, any acceptable deal from another club n its goodnight vienna, ya can only take loyalty so far.:eek: just my opinion, but can anyone see n alternative?

3. Ilyas steps in and saves the day somehow or other?

DAV007 05-10-2010 14:26

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Until O'neill and Heys are gone, we will never move forward.

And we need to banish Whalley once and for all.
Iylas needs needs to recognise his kindness to Eric is noble but damaging.

Leylandii 05-10-2010 14:50

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Heard on the radio earlier. And it's on MailOnline - sorry, can't do links - but JC is not apparently on their shortlist. Formet Southend boss Steve Tilson, Luton's Gary Brabin and, wait for it, former Tottenham man Justin Edinburgh.

yonmon 05-10-2010 15:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 850003)
3. Ilyas steps in and saves the day somehow or other?

As he said on Radio Lancs at 2:00 this afternoon Wyn..Ilyas recognises that JC is the best Manager in the Football League, and he can't understand why a Contract has been drawn-up and agreed !!...He also, and quite rightly noted that even with Contracts the success shared by JC and JB would make them natural targets for other clubs !...an inevitability for all Clubs having successful Managers ?.
I'm almost sure that he also described their present situation as one which places these respected and revered lads in a situation which has ignominy written all over it !.

Not wanting to sound a note of doom but....

http://oneyearbibleimages.com/belshazzar.jpg

And it all came true !

MikeA 05-10-2010 15:12

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Latest Lincoln manager odds:
Football Specials - Manager Specials - Coupons :(

MCR ADIM 05-10-2010 15:15

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theimps.ka - Two contenders lead chase for manager's job

cashman 05-10-2010 16:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeA (Post 850018)
Latest Lincoln manager odds:
Football Specials - Manager Specials - Coupons :(

Chris Turners 16-1 - bit young i thought, still if he can't get a game...............:D:D:D:D

smudgie 05-10-2010 16:54

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Ive never EVER known any organisation around the world that is as poorly run as Stanley.

We have an unbelievable manager & assistant and yet still nothing is done.

Enough is ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pendle Red 05-10-2010 17:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 850040)
Ive never EVER known any organisation around the world that is as poorly run as Stanley.

We have an unbelievable manager & assistant and yet still nothing is done.

Enough is ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here Here Smudgie!

The time for talking always seems to come and go around the Club:mad:

I personally will be stepping things up a gear in terms of making my feelings known by showing my Support for Coley & Jimmy hopefully come Saturday at Bury as well as making other feelings known.

The sagas surrounding the Club can't keep going on and on they do nobody any favours but just keep dragging us all down at a time when things are going so right on the field.

ukcowboy 05-10-2010 17:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 850040)
Ive never EVER known any organisation around the world that is as poorly run as Stanley.

We have an unbelievable manager & assistant and yet still nothing is done.

Enough is ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well said Smudgie.

Perhaps now is the time for fans to put on a concerted effort to show the numpties in charge (DON/WHALLEY) just how fed up we are of the whole thing............and yes I am talking PROTESTS..........support the players/management whilst on the field but make our feelings known pre match, half time, and post match both home and away......(stewards permitting away)

There will be some who say that protesting is wrong, well to that I say so is the way the club is being run! Wake up, smell the coffee, now is the time for DIRECT action, get the press,TV etc onboard and lets get rid of the cancer that is spreading within our club once and for all. :mad::mad::mad:

Again some will say that we cant/wont make an ounce of difference.............I say what have we got to lose by trying?

Ideas/suggestions anyone?

baldy 05-10-2010 18:03

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How many people off Accyweb would actually turn up to one UK?

ukcowboy 05-10-2010 18:30

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Originally Posted by baldy (Post 850068)
How many people off Accyweb would actually turn up to one UK?

No idea, but why just accyweb?................look at the don gone protest last November........................

VALAIRIAN 05-10-2010 19:37

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BBC Sport - Football - Lincoln City chairman Bob Dorrian eyes experienced boss

Talking of being prepared to pay compensation, if they need to :rolleyes: Chance would be a fine thing :rolleyes: :mad: :mad:

John_Timmins 05-10-2010 19:49

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The silence is deafing not only on Oneil side but also on the 100% transparant side as well

Stuff your bickering DON / Ilyass / who ever "owns" our club!!! and give the real men at the club the reward they deserve

stanleyhouse 05-10-2010 20:12

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Latest betting on the new Lincoln Manager at 8pm tonight

John Coleman 7/2
Steve Tilson 7/2
Mark Proctor 6/1
Paul Hurst/Rob Scott 7/1
Dave Penney 7/1
Steve Thompson/M*ick Harford 9/1
Justin Edinburgh 9/1
Gareth Ainsworth 10/1

Coley's odds getting shorter by the hour.
Short list drawn up on Thursday.
Will he or won't he? Let's not wait to find out.
OFFER HIM A NEW CONTRACT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!!!!

Larry Lobster 05-10-2010 20:32

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I would say a bigger worry would be Bradford city. Thy've lost again tonight. If Taylor gets the push there i could see them looking at JC and if he thinks Lincoln's fanbase is "massive" what does that make Bradfords?

david1 05-10-2010 20:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by John_Timmins (Post 850107)
The silence is deafing not only on Oneil side but also on the 100% transparant side as well

Stuff your bickering DON / Ilyass / who ever "owns" our club!!! and give the real men at the club the reward they deserve

Well said John . I will add my name to the list .

Dave Blackledge .

This needs to be signed NOW get it done Stanley !!!

carpon 05-10-2010 21:14

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Just to add another perspective to this arguement.....

IF Coley and Bell end up walking away to another club, do the powers that be, expect to get somebody else in to work without a recognised contract, with little or no money and do such a sterling job???:mad:

Or is there no shortage of would be managers who would work under such conditions ??? Personally I doubt it:mad:

SORT OUT THEIR CONTRACTS NOW!!

DAV007 05-10-2010 21:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Lobster (Post 850116)
I would say a bigger worry would be Bradford city. Thy've lost again tonight. If Taylor gets the push there i could see them looking at JC and if he thinks Lincoln's fanbase is "massive" what does that make Bradfords?

Lincoln is potential

they have no other clubs in thier locality and could in theory develop into an established championship club.

yonmon 05-10-2010 21:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 850104)
BBC Sport - Football - Lincoln City chairman Bob Dorrian eyes experienced boss

Talking of being prepared to pay compensation, if they need to :rolleyes: Chance would be a fine thing :rolleyes: :mad: :mad:

But this is an interesting paragraph Joe .....

Dorrian added: "We'll draw up a shortlist on Thursday based on the applications we've received and also proactively, on the part of the board, look in terms of managers who may already be at other clubs

JC wouldn't actually apply for the job...or would he ??.

bdc 05-10-2010 21:36

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I am not too worried about JC and JB, I think they will stay as Lincoln is not a club that can offer them the opportunity of taking a club that nobody expects to stay up possibly into League 1. I think if JC took the job at Sincil Bank he would put himself in a similar position to Owen Coyle. In the fact that although they will have better facilities, higher budgets to utilise etc, they will just end up in a slipstream of mediocrity.

Everyone would expect JC to keep Lincoln in League 2 and nothing else would really happen. If he stays at Accrington what has he actually got to lose, he has already enhanced his reputation now to the point where he has been linked with Hereford, Bradford and Lincoln in the past 4 months. This season he has a real chance of gaining promotion with Accrington and even if he doesn't it will only boost his managerial reputation. Staying at Accrington will keep his name in the fold for plenty more jobs probably at a higher level, there would a lack of this going to Lincoln as expecations are 22nd place and not much else. Doing this would not raise his profile, a la Owen Coyle.

I hope he sees the bigger picture and stays with Stanley, yes the backroom team at the club needs to be improved massively but with Ilyas involved then this will change.

cashman 05-10-2010 21:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 850139)
But this is an interesting paragraph Joe .....

Dorrian added: "We'll draw up a shortlist on Thursday based on the applications we've received and also proactively, on the part of the board, look in terms of managers who may already be at other clubs

JC wouldn't actually apply for the job...or would he ??.

That is summat i would doubt. but can i ask are lincoln allowed to approach them, with em having no contract?

cashman 05-10-2010 21:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 850138)
Lincoln is potential

they have no other clubs in thier locality and could in theory develop into an established championship club.

Agree Davo, ya may even be underselling lincoln, i can remember Wimbledon coming from non league to the Top Flight n remaining yon fer many years.:eek:

MCR ADIM 05-10-2010 21:57

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Wouldnt just be like apporaching a player with no contract, also if they do go, who takes over us as caretaker? Eric :D

cashman 05-10-2010 22:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MCR ADIM (Post 850149)
Wouldnt just be like apporaching a player with no contract, also if they do go, who takes over us as caretaker? Eric :D

What concerns me MCR is if they do go, who will end up goin wi em, ya can bet they will take our best.:eek::eek::eek::eek:

yonmon 06-10-2010 07:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 850161)
What concerns me MCR is if they do go, who will end up goin wi em, ya can bet they will take our best.:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Radio Lancs this morning( Wed!) reports...Ilyas Khan is very hopeful that John Coleman will remain as Manager at Accrington Stanley...hope that this is proved to be a statement of fact rather than a prediction !.

Wynonie Harris 06-10-2010 07:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 850201)
Radio Lancs this morning( Wed!) reports...Ilyas Khan is very hopeful that John Coleman will remain as Manager at Accrington Stanley...hope that this is proved to be a statement of fact rather than a prediction !.

A ray of light perchance, Mr Y? Could our Ilyas save the day yet? :)

AccyMad 06-10-2010 07:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 850202)
A ray of light perchance, Mr Y? Could our Ilyas save the day yet? :)

I would suggest he is the only one who can - fingers crossed he is in time

Wynonie Harris 06-10-2010 07:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 850203)
I would suggest he is the only one who can - fingers crossed he is in time

Well, he's already saved the day for us once, around this time last year...perhaps he can do it again?

yonmon 06-10-2010 07:52

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:)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 850204)
Well, he's already saved the day for us once, around this time last year...perhaps he can do it again?

Ilyas Khan is very hopeful that John Coleman will remain as Manager at Accrington Stanley..

I wonder if 'THEY' share this sentiment ??.If so, then 'THEY' seemingly are not to keen to follow Ilyas's example and proclaim it !..

Wynonie Harris 06-10-2010 08:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 850208)
:)

Ilyas Khan is very hopeful that John Coleman will remain as Manager at Accrington Stanley..

I wonder if 'THEY' share this sentiment ??.If so, then 'THEY' seemingly are not to keen to follow Ilyas's example and proclaim it !..

Their total silence speaks volumes!! :(

Stanleymad 06-10-2010 08:25

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This time last year it was save our Stanley this year it's save our Coleman and bell !


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