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I was a little surprised to hear the Ultras chanting Eric Whalleys name at the Clitheroe Game

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I can only assume that they do it to wind rest of us up more than owt sad humour - could be wrong only them can answer that Q.
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Eric was sat in the main stand at clitheroe!!

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Correct!

Its not all about the bad you know.....

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No, however your continual support for a Man that single-handedly brought the club to near extinction sickens not just me but a large amount of Stanley fans.............how you can justify singing anti Robbie Williams songs (deservedly I hasten to add) but then go on to sing the praises of the Man who did more damage to the club and Accrington supporters than RW ever did is IMHO beyond the pale.

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eric said he take us to league football and he did!! simple as yes he nearly run us I to the ground but he kept his promise

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oh well that makes ok then? but fer ilyas we would be in the ground, pathetic.:mad:

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What about the promise he made to stand down after we were promoted? Did he keep that, err no! Or did that conveniently slip your mind?

The man is STILL holding the club to ransom by refusing to hand over ownership of the shares saying that there are outstanding "directors loans" due to him. No doubt that will be sorted when the accounts are eventually ratified, but loans are usually subject to a written agreement between all parties involved. Did you ever stop to wonder whether this may be what is holding things up, and keeping us under an embargo?

EW, was and remains a dinosaur and is only interested in what he can make for himself, be under no illusion that he wants the best for ASFC.

It would be great if you sang the praises of those who REALLY helped ASFC in it's hour of need instead of the man who would have stood by and watched the club that we love fall into the history books once again, for the wrong reasons.

If I were incharge at Stanley the man wouldn't even be allowed on the ground let alone be given exclusive access to the presidents lounge.

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Ultras have enough songs about themselves ;)

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:eek: And what about everyone else that helped stanley in its hour of need pal :(!!

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'ilyas khans barmy army' they have sung that.

I no there will be many more but they cant sing about everyone

How many more straight out begged around town im sure they will have been praised in other ways

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il sing your name next time ukcowboy on the terrace if it will give you a kick?

Yeh Eric was a get most of the time but he got us to the football league, any non league club would give their right arm for that, and most clubs in that league would pay £308,000 etc just to be were we are.

The Eric era was one of many things and aswell as the bad their is some good, so for that good i for one will sing what i like on that terrace , and i shall shout for Eric. He took us here after all.

Most people wont agree with my comments, i dont blame you, we all have different opinions, and rightly so, but i agree that Eric was the guy that brought us back to were we belong, how crap it might of been.

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Pratt!!:mad:

You honestly think I was referring to myself in my post?..........dont be so stupid man................I simply cannot see how you can glorify a Man who is SOLELY resposible for the huge debt we were in last year, regardless of whether He took us up,down or inbetween.

You stand on the terraces and sing negative things about former players and think nothing of it but then you idolise a man who allmost, but for the intervention of IK and PM, had that very same terrace closed down for good!!!...............double standards IMHO

I can fully understand the justification for being negative towards former players who brought shame and ridicule on a club and town that supported them week in week out for a long time, but you have failed to justify gloryfying EW, infact there is NO justification!:mad:

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Wasn't Robbie Williams also one of the people who got the team in to the league ? :rolleyes:

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I would just like to reiterate a point i have seen on this forum before.

What are you all going to achieve by moaning on here?

The ultras sang his name maybe because they are happy to be in the football league and travel to the bigger better grounds as he got us here.

They also sing IK for keeping this enjoyment alive. If there are other you want to praise you do it.

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I'd rather sing the teams and management duo's praises - THEY GOT US UP THE LEAGUES AND WHERE WE ARE NOW ON NAFF ALL!
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What will singing his name acheive?:confused: maybe put some people off returning, that would be a great acheivement if that were to happen.:rolleyes:

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Make him smile. Make it known to him hes not completly hated through asfc

Your turn what will moaning acheive? and dont dodge this by asking me another question just say!!

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Fair enough reading back into the post maybe you wasnt referring to yourself, so for that i apologise.

However the people that sing and shout about Eric Whalley have the right to shout/sing negative or positive things about the man if they wish. They have rightfully payed their money so in theory can say what they like.

However Ew brought us to the football league like promised and also led us to other promotions, he built the start of the rising to the football league and has put money, time and effort into building Accrington Stanley. However bad he may have done i still think (MYSELF) that Eric Whalley is a man who should always be remembered for what good he did to the club!!

Yes we had the debt but how do you know it was SOLEY down to him! He took the club on and ventured with it when no-one else wanted it!!!!!!!

Yes we had this debt but so does every club in the country, Erics money ran dry and maybe if we had more fans, better facilities etc then we could create better income!!!

So if we are slateing Eric Whalley, then we better slate the town of Accrington and also the Council!

I know hes done bad in the past , very bad things. But we all can have our own opinions and because of the great positive things he has done at the club he should be recognised as someone who achieved something! And not someone who put us in debt!!! Weve got over the debt so thats move on i say!

The next person to take the club on is now the DON , lets see how this man does in another chapter of Stanleys history!

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As i say it wasn't eric - it was our super management duo and our squad that has given stanley success NOT eric!
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I'll second that! :)

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They have lots of praise given the them by the SU.

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I give up! You STILL don't get it do you?! Please do yourself a favour and go back to the beginning of the thread and READ the posts, don't just pick bits out of individual posts and then I would ask you to sit down and think about your answers. I don't mean to be condescending but you and others who have posted on this topic do seem only to pick out certain parts of the post and ignore the whole picture!

I don't mean to be codesendin

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if ya think stating unpalatable facts to some people is moaning, thats your perogative, just because some don't like it, its moaning? many folk dug deep to help the club n are being treated like crap, by a bunch of liars, well some are not prepared to stay silent, like it or lump it.:(

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Wonder why they were begging ? :rolleyes:

Good point. You wouldn't catch Man Utd and Liverpool fans moaning on their forums with all the success they have had over the years :)

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Ahh yes READING you LOUD and clear on your pc over a forum achieving nothing.

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i disagree, if it annoys numptys like you, then it is not in vain.:rolleyes:

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Doesnt annoy me. Forum lovers easily get annoyed when someone disagrees with them. And wow do they bite trying to justify spending all there spare time on a little forum were most people that matter dont even care about.

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I thought the so called leader of the Ultra's hated proffessional football and everything that went with the pompus world. Don't Bigger grounds hint at the world of football you so hate. Make you minds up KIDS!!!

The ultras sang his name maybe because they are happy to be in the football league and travel to the "bigger better grounds as he got us here."

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Is it at all possible to get caretaker's username changed to ssssstirrer?

There's enough conflict behind the scenes of the club without them & us camps arising within the terraces. It saddens me to see my righteous brothers and sisters bickering. Ne'er will there be a time when someone can say, "all Stanley fans think this", or "all Stanley fans think that". We're a group of just over a thousand people. Different people. Wonderful people. We are a group of lost souls who all happen to have been drawn with a lasting infatuation to the runt of the footballing litter. We don't have to decide upon whomever we all love or whomever we all loathe. Let us just revel in the ever-so-slightly homosexual bond that brings us all together. You sing what you want, I'll sing what I want. I'm safe in the knowledge that the times when those songs are the same will be more frequent than the times when they differ.

Come, brethren. Rejoice:

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A lot of posts since I started my reply to this one, still here goes ...

I don’t know what the Ultras chant about Eric. I wouldn’t wish to glorify him, but I don’t have any problem with an occasional acknowledgement from the terraces of what he achieved before it all went wrong.

I have no idea how much of his own money he may have poured into the club up until the time we made it back into the League. I suspect it may have been well over £308,000.

As far as I know, he always made it clear that he didn’t want to remain as Chairman when (if) we made it back. Maybe this was because he knew he couldn’t afford to provide the increased financial backing that would be required, maybe he simply knew he didn’t have the ability to run the much more complex business the club would have to become if it was to meet all your increased expectations.

For 3 years after promotion, nobody seemed to want to take on the job. More money must have been required to keep things going over this period. If EW provided this (and until Ilyas rode into town I don’t know who else might have done), it would not, in my opinion, have been unreasonable for him to consider it to be a loan, or to expect repayment at some point when he finally managed to disentangle himself. Which would explain the current problem with opening balances.

As for the accusations of lying about us being debt-free, I would guess that if you’re trying to keep sponsors on board you may occasionally feel the need to be a bit “economical with the truth” about your financial position. Sponsors won’t be too keen to be associated with organisations in administration.

I'm only guessing, but when I put all the possibilities in the balance, I don’t see any reason why the Ultras shouldn’t occasionally acknowledge his contribution in the early days. Anyway, surely everyone is prepared to agree that “There’s only one Eric Whalley” (though some may wish to add “thank goodness”).

:hidewall: Bye bye Karma ..... :hidewall:

On the other hand, last season I don’t think anybody on the business management side had the slightest idea which way was up until October (although I seem to remember everybody om here was very positive about the "new regime" for a couple of months), and I'm just hoping (being the eternal optimist) things are a bit better this time around.

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maybe. If your going to quote me make sure you read the comment. I can not say why they all sang it maybe all for different reasons i am not derren brown am i.

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Smart post Shaker.

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Im not complaining least its light relief from other matters:p :D

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It's what makes us truly unique;)

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You speak for yourself! :eek:

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Ah the fountain of knowledge,:D people that matter care enough about this forum, to have requested threads n posts to be removed.:tongueout