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Hi to all,

Very close to getting underway at The Lamex Coley makes ten changes with only Dean Winnard keeping his place from the last day of the regular season.

Stanley Line Up

Cisak, Jacobson, Edwards, Hessey, Winnard, Procter, Joyce, McConville, Craney, Ryan, Gornell

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DO IT Stanley

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Come on stanley!!!

I am well nervous for them!!!

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Wow... listen to the ULTRAS I can here you over here.

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Hi Kiwi, have you managed to find away to watch the boys?

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On P2P loud and clear. Sorry, you guys are secondary. :)

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For once we don't mind

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Nice one Kiwi!!

Sing along now..............:D

ARGGGGHHHHH its killing me!! :D

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You guys can help us now, did Long's shot take a deflection past Cisak. Hard for us to see.

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Yes

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..Hessy the 'culprit'.

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There is a banner there saying on it ' John Wayne' and some other american names.. whats it about? Can't see it all

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What an effort that was. Darrius Charles is causing us some big problems. He normally plays at the back!

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Picture froze for that effort.

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THat Byrum prick

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Oh dear. This half time team talk is going to have to be a good one!! 2-0 Stevenage at the half way point on the night. Still 135mins of football to be played in this one.

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All part of JCs cunning plan...(I hope)

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Poor first half from Stanley!! Whats with the team talks every time cheers a foul,foregot getts:@

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Stanley are not at there best but have made an improvement in the second half.

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Dam it..picture freezing far to often..grrrrr

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What a complete waste of space. why the heck didn't McConville just shoot!!!

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How the ??????????????????

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McConville 1 on 1 rounded the 'keeper then Jimmy Ryan had an open net and put it wide! It should be 2-1 how important could that prove to be?

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That will cost us mentally.

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Hı everyone - onlıne ın Turkey. had trouble loggong ın wıth a funny keyboard - perhaps ıt wıll be all rıght now!

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Hi Chimer

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Hi Chimer...just lost my pictures..trying another channel

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Should be 2-2..:(

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Ryan free kick curled over the wall Terry Gornell flicks just wide another chance. Starting to feel that Stanley really need to get one back tonight.

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We got two in the last 5 mıns ın the league game ...

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Putterill on his way!!

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Craney off

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Thank God hes been worse than poor:(

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Pity Turner's not on the bench too feel he could have made a real difference if put on with Razor

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5 added on

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Gutted, too many poor performances for me Sean didnt want to know and didnt make a challenge and his miss I hope doesnt come back to haunt us even Jimmy didnt impress. Good job Cisak was strong and winnard I thought did ok. I dont have a great feeling now for Friday. It certainly isnt all over but we have a lot to do.

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All over at The Lamex this wasn't in the script but far from over. Stevenage 2 Stanley 0

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Oh...twice I've watched STANLEY live on 'P2P' and twice they've lost 2-0. :(

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The pundits always say you cant win a game in the fırst leg. you can only lose ıt. At 0-2 İ dont thınk weve lost thıs one.

Apologies for punctuatıon - I cant fınd the inverted comma on this keyboard!

İ still believe too!

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Borrow mine '

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good luck for friday .... get an order in for some industrial cling film to go round the goals for friday nite

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Not the Stanley team I've been watching this season, (at home ) we will do better on Friday night..... how many 3-0 at half time so far??

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2 goals in 90 minutes, 3 in 120 minutes. Plenty of time left yet

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4424 gate

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John Colemans interview on Sky was 1st class, but he looked mighty hacked off. To be fair, Stanley could have lost that 4-0, but also could have drawn it 2-2.

I suspect changes will have to be made on friday though. I wouldn't play craney, he looked totally uninterested or concerned with what was at stake. Razor did more in his 1st 2 minutes on the pitch.

Dean Winnard and Phil Edwards where my pick as best Stanley players though. They gave it all they had, sadly they have been let down by some of their teamates for effort.

One plus point, Jimmy Ryan is unlikely to be leaving Stanley anytime soon. After such a big build up, he played like a frightened rabbit caught in the headlights, but at least he never stopped trying unlike Craney.

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Yeh agree, they have played together well in reserves, one thing I wanna know what cheeky razor said to that boro player hehehe I love that guy lol:D

2-0 is not a bad result, home form is strong and the Crown Ground will e rocking. I believe

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Took the words right out of my mouth Larry, what do,es JC do now stick with the side that has impressed at home since the new year or tinker a bit let razor,Linfield and long start and drop Craney, Sean Mc and Hessey to the bench, nowt to loose in the latter in my opinion.
Going back to todays game first half was dire but I thought we started to command the game certainly in the last half hour and on reflection we could count ourselves as unlucky not to come away with something I bet Sean won,t sleep tonight after that miss but when all said and done it,s only half time and we will not roll over easily on friday, come on stanley I still believe.

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Mayve they should put Long at the back and play Hessey up front. The defenders had it far too easy

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You might have a point there Dave give us a bit of height up front and somebody to bully their defenders.

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Hiya Kiwi John - or should I say Jonah! I followed your link on p2p and the site froze at 1-0 and when it came back on - they'd scored a second!

I can't hear the fat lady singing yet - so it's game on at the Crown!

We didn't play well enough today - but I'm expecting a different performance on Friday. Keep the faith!

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I bet coley has got tonight's performance on DVD ready for training tommoz will show players just where they went wrong clearly, we cannot lose concentration for 1 sec - hope home is strong enough to over come the shakeyness visible.

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hi all, liverpool fan here who follows yourselves to see how our old youth get on mainly. Coley has worked miracles at your place and is doing a very good job at instilling the best set up (for me) you can get with the 4231 formation.
BUT, its ridiculous how he let that go on for so long today before finally changing it at 80 minutes. It amazed me how much trouble stevenage caused today centrally as well which shouldnt happen with one holding midfielder never mind 2 yet nothing got changed. It doesnt seem like there is any link at all between the holding midfielders and the attacking ones.
just my thoughts and hope you'se pull it off friday.

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Substitutions never have been Coley's strong point when things are not going well.:D

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suppose its stubborness bred from such high self confidence in his ability as a manager. Fair enough and Not always a bad thing like but each to their own.

all set up for a great second leg to us neutrals 'cos i cant see them coming out at your place (despite what the manager might say)
They will be training all week using 10 behind the ball i reckon, hopefuly youse get one early and see if they have the balls to hang on. My prediction is 3-1 accy to see extra time

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Well after watching that tonight, we certainly have our work cut out now. We've got to come flying out of the traps on Friday, get the early goal and get them on the back foot.

Like Coley said, certain players never performed and we all know / have a good idea who he means. At one point I was beginning to think that the tie was going to be over before the second leg, however it could have been so, so different if McConville had stuck the chance away from that suicidal backpass.:o

Why, oh why didn't he just shoot / place it past the keeper instead of trying to be cocky and go round him ??? Was he trying to draw a professional foul and get him sent off ???:confused:

Personally speaking, Craney had an absolute shocker and the only suprise to me is that he lasted for 80 odd minutes before Coley hauled him off. He did not look fit, misplaced way too many passes and generally looked lethargic and way off the pace of the game.:(

I also think Coleman has some decisions to make now with regard to the formation for Friday. Does he stick with the tried and tested formation or gamble on something a little more attacking??? Does he make changes to personnel ??? For me, he's got some serious questions to answer between now and Friday.

Still 2-0 down at half time....If we play like we have in the majority of our home games this season we can turn it around. We cannot afford for players not to turn up and perform. For me at least, that means changes for the second leg.

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A bit shell shocked after watching the game. Stanley didn't seem to turn up at the races. A bit like they took it as another league game while Stevenage made it their cup final. All credit to the fans though... 1000% and although there maybe some comeback over the smoke bombs F'Em. Love a bit from one of their fans in their programme - Mark Poplett says "we're NEVER OUTSUNG" .... well I have had the "privilege" of seeing the STANLEY (twice), Southport, St Albans and even Hendon outisng the dismal Stevenage fans. It's loking unlikely but....

YouTube - " I believe" - Elvis Presley

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Well we won't be able to pass the ball around their massed defence, so we need Putterill and Turner on from the start. They are both capable of having the strength to take men on and burst through the tackles, which Craney and Macca were plainly incapable of tonight. It's muck or nettles now.

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McConville, Craney, Ryan. Gornell - and even Luke Joyce for once, never showed up tonight -and.Cisak came for their second like a rabbit trapped in headlights! We got exactly what we deserved - and if we play like that on Friday.we're out. We are so-o-o much better than that! We can only hope that Coley works his magic in the next few days or there'll be some devastated Stanley fans come Friday evening. I still believe - but only just.

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That i can go wi happily, doubt very much if the Messiah will though.

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We need Turner to play, quite simply because he's the one player we have that can put quality crosses into the box. And like you say he's not frightened of running at defenders, something which was lacking for the first hour or so tonight.:(

But by playing Turner, Coleman would have to a) have a change of heart, seeing as Turner didn't even make the bench tonight & b) change the formation....something that he seems quite reluctant to do.:o

Personally I'd go for 4-4-2 with wide men (Turner being a definate starter) with both wide men looking to get down either flank as much as possible and get in and behind them. Stevenage looked quite comfortable when the ball was played around in front of them, but get them backpeddling and it might just be a different story. Who to play up top with Gornell....for me Lindfield.

I'd go for a starting Line up of :

Cisak
Winnard, Edwards, Long, Jacobson
Turner, Proctor, Joyce, Ryan
Lindfield, Gornell.

Out go Hessey (struggled in aerial challenges against the guy who looked like Shrek...Charles was it???) McConville (too lightweight and doesn't seem to have the big game mentality required) and Craney (we can't afford to carry passengers in a must win game if he's not fit)

Your considered thoughts, Ladies and Gentlemen:confused:

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Hi guys,

caught the game today as was live into Australia. Not the end of the world but defending was terrible. Was obviously interested to see how Cisak would go. thought he was prob your best along with your LB jacobson. Although he could have done better, 2nd goal not his fault can't let opp run in box like that. Was impressed with his hands, dealing with crosses and he sweeps very well. he did well to continue i thought after injury in 1st half.

What were mcconville and ryan doing?

Stevenage were value for the win sorry to say.

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I agree Carpon but doubt he will drop his chosen ones. Food for thought though. Cant believe Turner wasnt on the bench when he's one of the only ones that can offer something different to a game albeit if you have to change a formation. He runs at players and showed last week what a difference he can make when he runs at players. JC must have looked at his bench last night and saw too many like for like players that couldnt offer anything different. Stevenage are a big strong side and we simply didnt turn up, in strength or passion. Its gonna be a long wait till friday.

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Having watched the game we just didn't turn up. Second to every ball, hardly won a header all over the pitch. Mc Conville should have scored his one on one, Ryan should have scored when the ball ran loose. Gornalls came to him quickly but on another day he would heve scored. Lets all get down there on Friday. They cant play any better, and we certainly cant play any worse.I dont expect to many changes just a better all round performance, and a great atmosphere.

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went to game and watched it on tv when i got back,and Coleys match summary was spot on.
Accis system has been set in stone all season,and its not hard to come up with a game plan.
They just did what Oxford did,two up front ,push the widemaen on the fullbacks and stop them playing from the back.
Therefore its then important that we hold the ball up and be strong,Gornell and Craney didnt ,this turned the game into a phsysical battle and we havent got the size or players for that.
Sean mac had a nightmare(along with a few others),and it started with him not tracking the runner for the first goal and finished with a good block from a jimmy ryan freekick.(and missing a sitter in between).
Ironically there two dangermen ( the two widemen) were there least effective players.
The tie is not over with yet,and Acci will not roll over at home,
ps i predicted a 2-0 to them !!! ,and the game panned out more or less how i expected,with the exception of a few half hearted displays

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I watched the game and was very disappointed, I hope they can hit back very quickly on Friday and put doubts in the minds of the opposition, the longer it goes without Stanley scoring the more confident Stevenage will get

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The pity is that some people who don't watch Stanley on a regular basis, but watched last night on telly, are judging the team on that performance. There a lot better than that, and I'm convinced they'll show that on Friday night. I would also stick with the same team for Friday.There the lads don't forget, that have got us in to the playoffs.

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You can only judge on what you see, and with all the great reports I get on here and from eye witnesses, last nights performance wasn't up to there usual standards, its not a matter of being convinced they play better on Friday, they'll have to full stop

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That's right, but all I would ask is that people don't judge them and one performance. And people also should never ever forget the remarkable achievements of the club in the last few years.

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Nobodies forgetting anything its you getting your knickers in a twist as usual:rolleyes:

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Stevenage wanted to win this more than us or at least thats how it appeared to me. I also say Stanley play much better in red and white.

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And it's only 2-0.:)

Everybody is going on about Sean's missed chance but think about how many Stevenage should have had. Who's going to be sorry for the missed chances the most :)

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Might get a better idea about 9-45pm on Friday Dave;) hope its the southern softies :D

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I reckon it might get to about 11pm ;)

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Why do they play half an hour each way in extra time:D

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You missed the penalties off :D

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Oh gosh how silly of me:D
ya like your pound of flesh dave

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We froze on the Big Occasion..then so did Shrewsbury at Torquay ...Man U at Blackburn..Arsenal at Wembley cup final ..These things just happen to the best..

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Dont forget Stevenage have the best defensive record in the league,and bullied Newcastle in the cup,so 2-0 is not a disaster.
Thought the ref was also poor,he let go all the pushing and shoving,jumping into the man etc.. which turned the game into a battle.
Considering it was on sky,i would have expected a lot of this to be punished,as it spoiled it as a viewing spectacle,and the higher up the leagues you go,the less you see of it

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Agree the ref was very poor, that detracts from the fact we were poorer.;)

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You are joking arn't you:rolleyes:

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Thats because the higher up the leagues you go they tend to have dived before getting near the man ;)

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You've been watching too many Portuguese and Mexicans in Red shirts Dave;)

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We let Stevenage bully us, no doubt about it. I never thought I'd see a Stanley team so lacking in fight and hunger. We were not up for the game at all.

Moving on to the second leg, we've won 3-0 at home against far better teams than Stevenage this season, but we have made things really difficult for ourselves. The mental wall of being 2-0 down may be too much to get past for our young and inexperienced squad.

Feeling really dejected after yesterday. Could not have predicted that.

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My feelings entirely. I've had no end of people telling me this morning that Stanley's performance was the "worst they've ever seen". A bit over the top perhaps, but i'd been telling anyone who'd listen to watch the match and view a pure footballing display. Just did'nt expect the "big" players to completely bottle it.

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Nail on the head yon Larry IMHO, lets just hope Lightening dont strike twice.:eek: whilst i'm very disappointed though, it dont detract from fact, no-one i know expected em to be top end of table pre-season, so whatever the score on friday night, the lads have had a brilliant season fer my money.

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I was at the match and thought their number 4 upfront was excellent.

I still think we've got a good chance of going through though. If we're one nil up at any point Stevenage will get shaky...They won't like the pitch at our place, they won't like the Clayton End's support for the reds, they won't like the dressing room, they'll have in the back of their minds' that we are excellent at home, they'll know that everyone in the country will be rooting for us, their away fans won't spur them on....I could go on.

Also every Graham Westley side is ill-disciplined -- one season at Stevenage they had 13 or 14 red cards if I remember rightly -- and the one type of football where you can't afford lots of yellows and maybe a sending off is cup football.

Also what you need to remember is if Stevenage go into the match trying to defend what they've got, we will be camped in their half for the majority of the game. They can't keep hold of the football like we can, so unless they look to press us like they did at their place, which they won't because they're away from home and know that they're not good enough to pass the ball, we're going to make chances.

I think the key for us is to start fast. Whenever they're on the ball we need to close them down and stop the delivery to their front man being any good. We will score against Stevenage, so if we can stop their only threat - their physical front 2 - we have one hell of a chance!

My prediction is a 3-1 win for us having passed the one-dimensional Stevenage to death....and then I've no idea what'll happen after that.

Unfortunately I can't make the home leg - I live in Southampton now. But here's hoping for another big night at the Crown.

Harry Potter

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Going thro this thread reports of symbols & language as a mod I have to remove it, despite context of passion im afraid - can people curb it & express frustration politely as one gets it in the neck for not controlling the section as to forum rules, please see these at top of Stanley section if unsure.

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Second to every ball, they won every 50-50 and were the better side on the day purely because we played right into their hands. Trying to play physical against them lot aint going to get you no where but most of the time thats exactly what we tried to do, the very rare times we got the ball on the deck and passed abit we did look quite dangerous but that didnt happen no were near as much as we should.

Its only half time though, early goal friday and its wide open again

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Well Potter , I think you watched a different game to me yesterday!Stevenage do not need to keep hold of the ball , they pinched it from our toes instantly and they were away, like little greyhounds .I do hope we can turn it round on Fri , I really do, but if they urn up with same squad , then , well I dread to think. We CAN do it , but Stevenage are known for being bullies. Did you notice how Jimmy was dragged down from back of neck , also Andy was pushed over right in front of ref , what happened ? nothing, I think even the refs are afraid of em..........but I still believe.

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Spot on cashman never in my wildest dreams would I have expected stanley to finish the season in the playoffs, so to me it,s a bonus.
Hopefully we can take the game to them on friday and regain some credability and it would not suprise me if we see a turn round.
Whatever happens roll on next season and if that means league two football so be it, just keep the stanley bandwagon rolling along.
All we have seen from stanley year on year is improvement despite the financial problems, transfer embargos and ownership issues, take the start of this season as an example relegation favorites and what was it five or six registered players the men at the top worked their magic and managed to bring in some outstanding individuals IMO.
Stanley are now well established in the league and fear no-one,rivals hate to come to the crown ground,we have the loudest and proudest fans in league two and their loyalty is second to none and if we don,t manage to win this battle the war will still go on.
The future is bright new man at the helm, shirt sponsership and the possibility of a new stadium.
I wear the red shirt with pride wherever I go and am proud to be associated with my accrington stanley.

I believe on stanley on.

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It's a different ref on Friday, Russell Booth, who's refereed two our our most important wins so far: Rochdale away and Barnet in the cup replay. Let's hope that he's a good omen and we have an even bigger win this week! :)

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No I watched the same game as you Greeny....and you're right about what happened last night - pinching the ball off us and attacking in a direct manner.

But I just think you have misunderstood what I said. My post mainly talks about what I think could happen in the second leg if we play like we can at home (keeping the ball, passing and moving and creating chances) and they play like they normally do, within the context of looking to defend a two goal lead (direct, long ball and relying on their physical front 2 and centre halves).

I think if the above happens we'll win by at least 2. And I think the chances of the above description happening are pretty high!

This is what I think, so we'll just have to see what happens Friday night won't we!

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i thought the game was evenly balanced until the goal.
once they scored, they never looked back.

they where well disciplined, extremly good at pressing us all over the pitch, forcing us wide and to play it long, which in turn played into their hands.
Jacobsen was most guilty of playing aimless balls.

Our ex-player Roberts request to the ref for a red card was nasty.

We need to keep it on the floor, go down when given a nasty challenge instead of trying to match them, and out football them.
The crowd/ultras need to be clever as well - instead of constantly singing, they need to be focusing on the ref and calling for every decision.
a strong ref is essential to us going through, if we get another old-school ref who will let stevenage play dirty then we have no chance.
We as the crowd have to get onto the refs every decision.

We cant play any worse, they cant play any better - game on.

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Ok so here is my 10 pence worth. First away game ive missed in months. Had to with work early this morning, still gutted today to be honest.

To sum it up watching it from the TV perspective, we where VERY poor. Without a doubt the poorest we have been all season for me. Dont take anything away from those morons, but they where by far the better side. Charles had a superb game, for he's size what a player he is. Sunbed and Hessey hardly won a header all game against him and for me, Long MUST play on Friday. The defence where all Very poor, even Cisak (the only Stanley player who came out of the game with some credit) was hesitant for their second goal, typical of Byrom to score, when he has hardly played all season.

The Midfield????? Absolutely nowhere for the entire 90 minutes for me, Proccy should stop moaning at others and concentrate on his game for once. As for Craney???!!!!! THE poorest performance in a Stanley shirt ive seen in a LONG time. I have been a decent fan of Ian's on occasion, especially during the loan spell over xmas, he looked hungry for the cause. Its like he has the contract already for next season and really cant be bothard putting a shift in...... OR he STILL is not fit??? If he isnt then WHY play him when we have Barnett, Razor (who did more in 10 mins than Craney did in 80), and Turner who I found it incredible he wasnt on the bench. We ALL know how good he can be causing havoc, as we saw at Burton..... Even Jimmy Ryan had an absolute shocker!!!

Mcconville and Gornell, BOTH very poor, whan an earth Sean was doing trying to take it round the keeper is beyond me, just smash it in, your not Messi yet mate!!! Terry was massively isolated all the game, he had 1 half a chance, which he could have taken then who knows what could have happened.

We all know subs are not Coley's strongest point, but to leave it as late as he did to bring Razor on was ridiculous. It clearly wasnt working at half time never mind after 80 mins. Just looking at the bench as a whole.... Richardson, Lindfield & Murphy??? What do they bring to the bench that Turner doesnt??? Sounds like the story of Chris's season to me. :(

All in All a quite unbelievably poor performance, im taking nothing away from Coley & The Lads as they have been incredible all season long, maybe it was 1 game to far, but in my opinion they BOTTLED it simple as. How we are still in the tie is beyond me, but we are... JUST.

To be honest the most positive thing about the entire evening was Coleys post match interview. He knows the Crown will be rocking Friday night. An Early goal for us and anything can happen, simple.

What would I change.?????

Long must play for me, he's the Only man who can give Charles a physical battle at the back.

Craney............ Did nothing, clearly not fit. Barnett or Razor in with Turner on the bench.

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Oh and as for that clown Mark Roberts, what an idiot trying to get players sent off.

Just shows what a type of player he is.

Never Good enough for the Stanley, EVER!

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99% agree with all you say, except Turner to start instead of you know who!

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No chance he will start mate, his appearance at Burton was his 1st since the FA Cup away loss to Port Vale.

Im just hoping he is given a chance on the bench come Friday night.

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Totally agree with that :)