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Not bad. But not as well as Jimmy Ryan did for us!

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Crap, like he did for us in the latter half of the season, and crap like he did for Tranmere. Tranmere fans were glad to get rid of him. Anyway we will get a fee for him so, thanks for that.

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100% trier but overrated is my opinion. though a few here may disagree.

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Totally agree. Overrated by many Stanley fans. The second half of the season he couldn't control the ball and he couldn't beat a man, as you say 100% trier but not good enough. Time will tell, but with his goal scoring record (which doesn't show the true Gornell) Stanley must be looking for around £500,000 for him. Shrewsbury may just get stung by the tribunal.

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Mr Cashman,very harsh again !!!!,the only thing i disagree with is the disrespect a lot of the departed players have shown the manager,who took a chance on them to showcase there talents.
I know for a fact two more players were lined up by shrewabury and stevenage alike,but would never leave without the gaffers blessing,
--- no names---- ,but some players should show a bit more respect.money is not the end of the world

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yep i think they may get stung, the fact were getting a fee fer him n got sod all fer symes is ironic.

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Going back to Gornell,hes hardworking,strong and physical,average in the air,but is better when his backs to goal.
He will never be a prolific scorer,as technically he snatches at the ball.
Saying that,again,hes only young,and i have no doubts he knows his own strengths and weaknesss,so a lot of work on the training ground is still required

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i should imagine Tranmere had a fair idea also.;)

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Not mithered about losing him really. Not half the player Symes was. Didn't create enough chances for other players for a player that played with his back to goal.
Nor did he convert a great percentage of the chances he got. He had some great games leading the line but they were few in number and a thing of the past come January. Have a feeling we'll sign a much better forward this summer. Not bothered about facing him next season; glad to get a fee. Best of luck to him though, seemed a decent lad.

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A fair few harsh comments on Terry imo.

Yes he wasnt a natural goalscorer and did miss a few chances, but for me there is no doubt his play up front on his own ALL season contributed massively to our success. You could tell he was knackered by March/ April time and looking back Coley probably should have used Boulding or Razor more to help him but he obviously didnt rate the alternatives.

Dont get me wrong I think Symes was a better player but I wish Terry all the best and thanks for a great season.

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A bit like prostitution to me. Tout yourself around to whoever's interested, then sell your body to the highest bidder. I say good riddance - and don't wish him well. Compare his attitude to that of Danny Coid - I know who I'd rather have!

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he is a good player by league 2 standards.
IMO, he needs a partner to play off and we didnt play that formation for him.
He has potential to develop and go up another level or two.

A good signings by the Shrews, ignore most of the idiots on here, they always have ago at players when they leave.

The Shrews are making some good young signings this summer.

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Cant understand the Shrews atm. They had Matty Harold up front who is ALWAYS a threat. Was against us , especially in the air! Good goalscorer and intimidating striker! YET the shrews got rid of him and get Terry in?

Terrys a good league 2 player, not a good goalscorer though id say! You need a fox in the box in this league aka Lowe.

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Probably not the best of comparisons. Danny Coid has said all the right things, but so do most players that have just signed for a club. If Mr Coid is having a fabulous season and his offered a better money deal in January by another English club, that will be the time to access his attitude.

I'm watching with interest the comings and goings at Stanley and can't help feeling so dissapointed for the fans. I also watched Coley's interview with Dan and was quite alarmed at his "lack of pre-season optimism" He looked an sounded completely drained.

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DAV as much as I respect your opinion, I too am disappointed with the number of first teamers leaving the club for pastures new, but to refer to others on this board as idiots is too strong IMHO. I do believe that everybody is entitled to an opinion and whether they publish it on here or elsewhere, that is their entitlement. Lets face it, a lot of posters on this thread don't exactly see your point of view, do they? My personal opinion is the lot of them are looking for extra money, and who can blame them. I am hoping that Oldham do not get Cisak, but if he is to go then I would rather it Oldham than an Australian side. I just think he is making a big mistake as he would be number one at Stanley and only number 2 or 3 at Oldham. Therefore he could showcase his skills better at our club than probably elsewhere.

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Good luck to Gornell. who has done a good job, playing a lone role. He will never be a major goal scorer, but his work rate and attitude have been first class. We are now in real need of a "goal scorer", as we should never be considering a contract for the likes of Lindfield, no matter how little we will have to pay for his services

John and JB, will have to unearth another gem.

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if you find the term idiot to strong then i apologise.
But the same people criticise Craney despite him being our best player
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Gornell did well for us, and suffered (tired) towards the end of the season due to Coleys refusal to rotate the squad.

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agree with that. Linfield and Boulding will never become great players for us as long as I have a hole in my ....


My opinion for what its worth is that Terry brought a lot to the team in general rather than just goals. He played a very similar game to that of Craney and/or Putterill, Ryan, Barnett, McConville and was a fulcrum to our much vaunted (and dangerous?) interpassing style that destroyed many teams last year. He was quick and strong to the ball and fast to lay it off for players moving into the gaps he had created. His scoring record wasn't fantastic but if you consider that they were all scored from open play then it wasn't bad. 13 I think, if he was a penalty taker like Donaldson or Lowe then he would have had opportunity to add another 13 goals to that tally.

I think he'll be missed and I personally think that Shrewsbury is a good club for him. He's just come from League 1 where he didn't set the world on fire and it would have been a mistake to go straight back there. But I think the League will be between Brizzle and Shrewsbury this year so he might get the opportunity in league 1 within a familiar set-up. Good luck to him. He only came to us to get back in the shop window and I think we all knew that really, and it would have been Coley's big selling point to him when he came here.

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Davo may class me amongst the idiots, and good luck to him if he does. However, I consider myself something of a Craney supporter and have no objection to Jimmy Ryan or anyone else bettering themselves, if that turns out to be the case. However...... Let's see now, will Inverness have me? No! Oh dear! Will someone else, then? ..... Maybe, Oh yes, Shrewsbury will! Not the same ball game at all, I feel, and I repeat, Good Riddance!

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Ridiculous statement. Find me even one "idiot on here" who has had a go at Jimmy, Phil, Joe, Chris or Jon.

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hardly a surprise,:rolleyes:

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Davo,you are entitled to your own opinion,but to blame Coleys lack of rotation of players for Gornells dip in form makes me smile.
Do you for one second think Coley doesnt know his players inside out ?,watching them train etc..,He always picks what he thinks are the right players to get him three points.
Regarding Gornell,his strength was leading the line,which he did well,which created space for Craney etc,who had a decent season.
If you played him off someone he wouldnt be half as effective as Craney,I am sure Tranmere played him on the rightside of a front three and he didnt break any pots.
Someone mentioned lack of assists,which is a fair point.
As the season progressed,teams got wise to him and got tighter and more physical , no more so than the stevenage centre backs,who did a job on him,and never allowed him in the game.
Coleys selection policy cant be that bad,they finished 5th,and broke the clean sheet record !!!!:)

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Disappointed more than anything with Terry leaving the club,Disappointed for all stanley fans,Disappointed and gutted most for jc who resurrected Terry from footballs scrapheap and turned him in to a good player another year under coley and he'd have been a great player,having said that good luck Terry and thanks for the one season as part of a fantastic team...

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On this message board is a section that says 7 released, these guys had served there purpose for the club and in reality they where sacked. So why are we now having a go at Gornall who because we did not keep him tied to the club is free to move and wishes to do so. More money I expect, certainly a ground that looks the part, and bigger crowds. The list could go on. A footballers life is a short one,these players are not and never will be financially secure so we cant blame them.

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whos having a go at terry gornell? just people giving honest opinions, which as usual some dont like.:rolleyes:

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Cashy The above quote is not very nice to say the least.
" Lets interview Danny Coid." Hi Danny glad to have you here at Accrington.
"Danny", Yeh thanks but I can't wait for my contract to run out so I can join Shrewsbury.
I dont think so the guy as just joined us he is going to toe the line, lets hope he always gets paid on time, if not he may change his mind.

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i always understood the word "We" as plural?:confused: n whilst oldgobbins quote aint palatable to some, its his opinion.;)

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To be fair,Danny Coid is a good experienced pro,who will do a job for Acci.
The only thing i found strange is signing a right back when you had a much younger player in Jon Bateson,who was let go.
Over the last 5 seasons,his appearences seem to suggest he may be injury prone,where as Jon was just a bit hot headed !!.
Does it mean Deano will once again be played out of position at left back ?,If so,Jons departure doesnt make sense.
I presume Mr Coelman has is reasons,and is once again formulating another master plan :)

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I do not think that that is the full story when it comes to T.G. and I.C.T.!!!

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Its not the only reason im sure, but Colemans refusal to rotate his squad does have an impact on the players and results.

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That is simply not the case.
Like it or not, Shrewsbury have more ambition than Stanley and so does Gornell.
He has been good for us, we have been good for him - we should be grateful for his efforts and wish him well.

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It's more to do with lack of fans than lack of ambition. Shrewsbury's average home gate for last season was 5875, compared to our 1867. Their lowest home gate (4343) was way ahead of our highest home gate (2815). That's the root of Stanley's problems with holding on to players - not lack of ambition which Coley and Jimmy have in abundance.

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Nail on the head.

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You don't measure ambition by how many times you can face a winding up order

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.... although it's quite a good measure of over-ambition :)

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Dave wouldn't be aware..........being a dingle.:D

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Very well put Wynonie ! Also has alot to the facilities and ground! Shrewsburys players have a state of the art training centre with restaurant etc, while we have a field with Mick Shultz making chip butties for dinner! They get special treatment at Shrewsbury at home games , with state of the art bars and VIP areas and just better changing rooms ! When players like Terry and Joe see things like that and with an extra couple of hundred quid a week extra added on they are never going to say no.

We are In need of a new ground definitely to progress! Players want this and it really does attract them !

Feel so bad for coley this season as at least last season and previous ones we had Edwards and Jimmy !

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:) Stanley out to fight tooth and nail over fee :) NewsNow: Loading story...

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good.

about time we fought dirty with other clubs. each and every one of our lost players should go to tribunal

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Jacobson its wasn't the money:rolleyes: Jacobson: Money wasn?t motivation for Accrington Stanley exit (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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now,now if another was to go, take it n run.:D

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"we didn't really discuss money at Accrington, so they might have offered more ......"


what? :confused:

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gotta say, that quote beat the crap outa me.:confused:

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That quote from Joe makes it sound as if he didn't even think about considering our offer although things in print don't always come accross how they were said or meant

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So in footballing terms he just cared about bettering himself with the better facilities and ground they had! Alot of called off games last season and changing training grounds was probably the most catalyst of why players have buggered off , oh and the fact of probably getting payed late every month. Fair play to him , wasn't about the money , just wanted to go to a club that looked like they were going to achieve something

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Call me cynical, but although you are right in the terms of late payments, training facilities and the ground, don't let that cloud your judgement, if someone offered you a couple of hundred quid a week more than you were getting now, wouldn't you move? I would!:mad:

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been there done that - went back to the crapper wage!!!!!! learn my lesson? no, I've changed jobs three times in the last 4 weeks!

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So Shrewsbury had all those facilities better than Stanley last season, no wonder they got promoted............................ oh hang on they didn't they :D

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Well said Dave,hes move to a club which is closser to his home land and nearer to his family me thinks.To not even have a meeting over his contract and money involved beat's the hell out of me,Disrespctful to club and manager:(

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that can be said about most who have gone in my view, no respect shown to club or management, it costs sod all to keep em in the loop, they deserve it fer the work they put into em, crowd favorites or not, think its disgraceful, n if i'm right then good riddance to em.:(

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To be fair to Phil Edwards leaving i think im right in saying that Stevenage's manager spoke to JC first who then let Phil know that Stevenage were intrested in him.Not sure about Jimmy Ryan move tho.

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Jimmy texed coley soon as he knew according to the Accy ob, good interview with him

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It's not about that though ! It's s job , it's a place of work ! The work place I's ****e at Stanley and has low pay , at shrewsbury they have a superb workplace and a better wage! It's as simple as that!

Tbh Shrewsbury were a good side last year and deserved promotion , they probably will next season !