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carpon 18-04-2013 22:56

Contracts /retained for next season.
 
Assuming we manage to retain our League status, I'd presume the next immediate & pressing concern for Leam is to tie up players he wishes to retain for next season.

I can only assume that the only reason certain players haven't been tied down before now is due to the uncertainty regarding League status.:confused:

In recent weeks, things seemed to have "clicked" and we look more like a side which would be in a better position than where we currently lie.:o

Therefore, I'd like to think that as soon as things are secured regarding League football, the sooner the typist in the office is getting busy with new contracts in readiness for the "chosen ones" to sign their new deals, the better.:D

Everyone will have differing opinions....but a few key observations for me.....

Boco.....With reported interest from "the snake"....Boco's contract needs sorting A.S.A.P. In the latter half of the season his drive & determination has been key. He's top scorer (with good reason) and I think we'd struggle to replace a player of his numerous attributes... A must sign for me.

Linganzi.....what a find !!! He's shown in recent weeks he can be a linchpin in midfield. He's already won numerous admirers at other clubs. He clearly has the ability to play at a higher level and given a full season will be a sought after asset who could command a substantial fee. The sort of fee that changes thigs ( ala Ormerod ) His signature should be another Leam secures pretty damn quick.:o

Molyneux.....Not a lot to be said really is there??? An absolute "no brainer"...a definate two year contract with improved terms needs to be sorted A.S.A.P. This lad has the potential to play at Championship level at the least. And make Stanley a lot of money when he does move on.:o

I could go on about other players, in reality I'd like to see the majority of the current squad tied up for another season. It seems that Leam has finally got things ticking over and a squad that he can "progress" with. With a couple of additions, who knows what next season will bring.:confused:

We've seen the green shoots of recovery in recent weeks. Certain other posters ( no names mentioned ) clamoured for Leam's removal when the storm clouds lurked. With light now at the end of the tunnel, I feel we need to back a promising young manager with the resources to continue the improvement. Pretty Damn Quick...Before we get cherry picked....again.:(

Financial resources / constraints will in all probability always be a factor in such matters. Though I do feel that as a club we should be recognising talent and our saleable assets and tying them down on contracts which maximise our compensation. Prime example.... Crewe Alex......

All this in mind, I now put the matter forward for your considered opinions !!!

Your thoughts please....Ladies & Gentlemen....:D

Exile on Spencer St 19-04-2013 05:58

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Totally agree with your thoughts and your identification of the three 'must-have' players: Boco, Linganzi and Molyneux.
Unfortunately, Stanley are caught in a financial bind in a world where players themselves have much more say in such matters. At League 2 level, having one year [or shorter] contracts may suit some players at less wealthy clubs. It may be in the player's interest to hold out to see what another club will offer rather than sign again for the club they are with.
But it would be nice, for once, to think that this Stanley squad could go on and develop into an even better team next season, rather than the manager having to start again almost from scratch in August.

smudgie 19-04-2013 07:12

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WHEN we confirm our league status, I will give my full opinion.

But agreed we have to do everything to try and keep Boco, Moly & Linganzi, but I fear they are all already gone. :(

cashman 19-04-2013 07:43

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Common sense tells me Smudge is more n likely correct, twill always be the case wi top players at small clubs. its what makes the roller coaster go around.

Redraine 19-04-2013 07:57

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Agree with the above and would add Aldred, Townsend and Jeffers to the list. We can but dream.

accybeme 19-04-2013 08:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1054044)
Agree with the above and would add Aldred, Townsend and Jeffers to the list. We can but dream.

I agree with other posters on this thread but who is Townsend

Redraine 19-04-2013 08:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carpon (Post 1054023)
the typist in the office is getting busy with new contracts

What a quaintly old fashioned image that brings to mind! I thought typists were extinct. My wife was one of the shorthand variety many moons ago!

smudgie 19-04-2013 10:54

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Agreed would also love to see Aldred stay, he has been magnificent !

Mr T 19-04-2013 11:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1054053)
What a quaintly old fashioned image that brings to mind! I thought typists were extinct. My wife was one of the shorthand variety many moons ago!


I'm sad to report ASFC definately don't have a typist!! ;) On a positive note somebody can fill in the blanks on the pre-done form things!!:)

Greeny 19-04-2013 12:19

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When/If players move on it will be for financial gain only. Look at the players who have been taken over the years , have they progressed ? Take Andy Proctor ( as an example only ) he progressed to Preston North End , was made captain , how often do you hear of him having played,very often on the bench.
I think most of our players should stay put , if only to get more experience . Lee Molyneux didn't make the team for quite a lot of games, he sat on bench, then hey presto he comes on as a sub at Rochdale, takes a superb free kick , saves the day and is now in team every game, he is improving each time,would be a shame to see him sat on the bench at another club.

shadsworthcloud 19-04-2013 14:30

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As much as we all love Stanley, for the players it is above all a job. And which of us would not move job for more money.
And it is part of the deal of playing here that players are not held on to against their will. Most / Many of the players are really only here to put them selves in the shop window and if linganzi, boco, molyneaux can earn more elsewhere we have to let them go and search round for the next ones on the conveyor.
It's a tough old life but we don't have the problems that Man City, Chelsea etc have with a bloated squad of millionaire bench-warmers (as if!)

(and i agree: New Contract for Townsend! NOW!)

Revived Red 19-04-2013 14:58

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I have said previously that the left side of our team is as good as any in League 2 - and I think that could still be so if Moly goes. Michael Liddle and Wilson would be more than adequate so I would want to offer contracts to those two.

Greeny makes an important point about Moly who had been on the bench. Those goals at Rochdale did wonders for his confidence. Greeny also makes a good point about players who have moved on. The attraction of a possibly short-term increase in wage has to be balanced against other factors. I suspect there are one or two players in the Stanley team who could have moved on for more money but chose to stay with us.

Assuming that we remain in League 2, I would like a contract to be offered to Aldred in addition to Boco and Linganzi. Excuse my ignorance but do we have anyone already contracted for next season? If not, I would add Joyce, Deano, Lindfield and Bavs to those already named.

cashman 19-04-2013 15:05

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I seem to recall someone on here said we had just 2 players under contract when season ends. Can't remember who or on what thread it was?:confused: Unless i'm losing the plot or summat.

maccawozzagod 19-04-2013 15:18

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Dixon and Clark i think were the only two year contracts signed last year

Pendle Red 19-04-2013 16:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1054155)
I seem to recall someone on here said we had just 2 players under contract when season ends. Can't remember who or on what thread it was?:confused: Unless i'm losing the plot or summat.

Not losing your marbles just yet Cashy

From memory Luke Clark two year deal last summer and this season Marcus Carver & Andrew Dawber signed new contracts

Redraine 19-04-2013 17:51

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Ignore Townsend. I mean Wilson! I'm fast losing it.

accybeme 20-04-2013 08:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1054197)
Ignore Townsend. I mean Wilson! I'm fast losing it.


Glad I’m not on my own on that one Red
As for contracts/ retained I would just like to say
“LEAM GOOD LUCK AND BIG THANK YOU”
Who would want to be a manager of a team like Stanley, at the end of the season you fight for survival, next you lose your best players then you have to look for new available players to start the new season, what tremendous pressure is put on our manager

LongLostSon 20-04-2013 11:46

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As others have said, sadly we'll no doubt have to wait till other clubs have picked over our bones before we can look for signatures to contracts. Fact of life, a footballer's career is short and can't blame anyone of them for maximising their opportunities. Just so long as we have Leam under a decent contract and we the Stanley family back him 100%, unlike some muppet clubs who desert their manager when things get tough. Would not like to be in the trenches with those of that weak-knee'd attitude. Things are always likely to be a struggle at little ol' Stanley but letting Leam be confident in the fans' backing despite periods of bleak results can only but be a force in continuing to punch above our weight. Bookies fav for the drop again next term no doubt, but do we care - we are the mighty Stanley.

cashman 20-04-2013 12:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LongLostSon (Post 1054372)
As others have said, sadly we'll no doubt have to wait till other clubs have picked over our bones before we can look for signatures to contracts. Fact of life, a footballer's career is short and can't blame anyone of them for maximising their opportunities. Just so long as we have Leam under a decent contract and we the Stanley family back him 100%, unlike some muppet clubs who desert their manager when things get tough. Would not like to be in the trenches with those of that weak-knee'd attitude. Things are always likely to be a struggle at little ol' Stanley but letting Leam be confident in the fans' backing despite periods of bleak results can only but be a force in continuing to punch above our weight. Bookies fav for the drop again next term no doubt, but do we care - we are the mighty Stanley.

Good post L.L.S. But bear in mind theres one or two Muppets on here.:D

smudgie 21-04-2013 07:56

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My humble opinions, (not included loaness)

2. Peter Murphy (Already has a deal, KEEP)
3. Michael Liddle (Needs to improve but a versatile solid backup, KEEP)
4. Luke Joyce (VERY poor season, must get better, KEEP)
6. Dean Winnard (Solid season, but needs a summer of rest for me, KEEP)
7. Craig Lindfield (NOT a right back, but I would give him a deal, KEEP)
8. Charlie Barnett (Exit Door, GONE)
9. Francis Jeffers (KEEP)
10. Will Hatfield (Essential to the way we play now, KEEP)
11. Aidan Chippendale (Who?, GONE)
12. George Miller (Looks a decent young player, KEEP)
14. Luke Clark (Already has a deal, KEEP)
15. Bohan Dixon (Not up to it for me, EXIT)
17. James Gray ( Seems a Top lad but doesnt look quite up to it to me, EXIT)
18. Tom Eckersley (Looks decent but Leam doesnt rate him, so EXIT)
19. Marcus Carver (Already has a deal, KEEP)
21. James Beattie (A good presence around the club, and an ultra ;), KEEP)
22. Andrew Dawber (Massive talent, already has a deal, KEEP)
23. Pádraig Amond (KEEP, Hopefully stays injury free)
24. Lee Molyneux ( HOW can we KEEP him) !?!?!?!?!??!?
25. Ian Dunbavin (Crackers as ever, but part of the furniture, KEEP)
26. Tom Aldred ( See Moly, Magnificent the last few weeks, KEEP)
27. Amine Linganzi (See Moly, KEEEEEEEEEEEEP)
33. Romuald Boco (See Linganzi, KEEEEEEEEEEEP)
34. Laurence Wilson (KEEP)

cashman 21-04-2013 08:11

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That list seems about right to me, If only...............

DAV007 21-04-2013 08:44

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There will be lots of fresh talent and seasoned pro's out of contract this summer; lets hope Leam picks up a few who are hungry and can take us places.

football19 21-04-2013 08:56

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Leam will already have targets in mind,but can't disagree with any of smudgies comments (which is unusual for me !!!)

Alvin the chipmunk 21-04-2013 13:19

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If Moly and Linganzi somehow stay then Leam should get the freedom of the borough. Please God make this happen!!! :)

cashman 21-04-2013 13:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alvin the chipmunk (Post 1054684)
If Moly and Linganzi somehow stay then Leam should get the freedom of the borough. Please God make this happen!!! :)

If they stay Alvin,i'm off to the bookies again wi another daft bet.:D N if Franny Jeffers is still here,i am anyway.

choirboy 21-04-2013 16:03

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After the initial euphoria of our survival battle, yes, the question of summer changes has to be considered once again!!?? I really hope that this squad, that we have seen start to really develop in the last ten matches or so, can be kept intact. It was disastrous two seasons ago to see the heart totally ripped out of our "play off" squad. Leam and the staff will do all that they can to keep this team together for the benefit of Stanley but of course if heads get turned by bigger clubs offering more money, then he cannot stand in their way..that's life in the world of football I suppose!!
I would just like the current players to ponder on the relative success or otherwise of those lads from two years ago who left us for "greener pastures". Hmmm....:rolleyes:I wonder if some of them wish that they had stuck with the Stanley????
Stick with the Stanley guys and continue to be part of our historical journey. :mosher:
ON STANLEY ON:jimbo:

Alvin the chipmunk 21-04-2013 16:42

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Hope the board can see that the money Moly has saved us with his wonder goals is worth incentivising his new contract. Hopefully we can show some ambition and offer a couple of two year deals.

I know why the club doesn't often do this as we often take gambles on young players but for ones that have already proven their worth...why not? At the very least it ensures we get a few more pennies should they be poached.

Pendle Red 21-04-2013 17:17

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Not going to get carried away as it is out of our hands

The Squad has proved it's worth of that there is no doubt and there are players within it who would walk into most teams in League Two & higher but it boils down to the playing budget & balancing it?

We may have to be patient and see how it unfurls and if the worst should happen and it becomes a rebuilding job I have every faith that Leam will take Stanley forward as his signings have proved since he had a bit of space to manoeuvre in the transfer market.:)

football19 21-04-2013 20:03

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Linganzi,the Yaya toure of league two !!,can't see him here next season,indeed he's far better than anyone in Blackburns first team !!,what he was doing playing for Acci will be a mystery,real top drawer IMHO

DAV007 21-04-2013 21:24

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Ian Craney back?

Telford wont be keeping him for the BS North

First Team - Players & Coaches - Ian Craney - AFC Telford United

carpon 21-04-2013 21:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1054809)
Ian Craney back?

Telford wont be keeping him for the BS North

And there lies your answer. If Telford don't want him to play at a level two leagues below where we are.......

I despair at times...I really do...:enough:

cashman 21-04-2013 21:32

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Why on earth? He couldn't get a regular place in Coleys Rochdale, Shame but a talent wasted.

DAV007 21-04-2013 21:37

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As per Jeffers and Beattie, Leam is picking up the nack of getting talented players to perform.

Craney is talented.
We have already had this debate.

carpon 21-04-2013 21:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1054815)
As per Jeffers and Beattie, Leam is picking up the nack of getting talented players to perform.

Craney is talented.
We have already had this debate.

Well let's put it another way then.....Who would you drop from the side to accomodate him ???

Sorry, Craney was talented but every dog has it's day. He's had three cracks of the whip here. Coleman & Bell soon got shut of him from 'Dale. He's now been shown the door from a side who finished bottom of the Conference.

No thanks.

cashman 21-04-2013 21:47

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I wonder,is the fact hes a scouser any bearing on this?

football19 21-04-2013 21:51

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Strange fact -we have kept 14 clean sheets this season !,despite all the chopping and changing with keepers and players

lancsdave 21-04-2013 21:53

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There is one Barrow player who is worth a look at ;)

cashman 21-04-2013 21:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 1054821)
There is one Barrow player who is worth a look at ;)

Yeh mean sean?:eek:

lancsdave 21-04-2013 22:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1054823)
Yeh mean sean?:eek:

Nooooooooooooooooooooo :)

Alex Rae Harvey, would be good for Stanley, still lives in Burnley so expenses would be cheap :D

cashman 21-04-2013 22:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 1054824)
Nooooooooooooooooooooo :)

Alex Rae Harvey, would be good for Stanley, still lives in Burnley so expenses would be cheap :D

According to Barrow site he aint played fer em yet, so why would n unused dingle be any use?:confused:

mab 21-04-2013 22:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 1054821)
There is one Barrow player who is worth a look at ;)

SEAN HESSEY by chance Dave:)

cashman 21-04-2013 22:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mab (Post 1054828)
SEAN HESSEY by chance Dave:)

Wake up mate i asked that a few posts back.:p

lancsdave 21-04-2013 22:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1054827)
According to Barrow site he aint played fer em yet, so why would n unused dingle be any use?:confused:

Think the Barrow site is about as far behind as their chances of promotion this season :)

He's played 32 games, and according to his boss has stood out despite playing in a dismal team.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mab (Post 1054828)
SEAN HESSEY by chance Dave:)

From what I've heard I think Sean has had his day I'm afraid

cashman 21-04-2013 22:17

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In that case Dave, the lads worth checking out.:)

DAV007 21-04-2013 22:19

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Barrow AFC - Football - Lee McEvilly Footballer

this is the only Barrow player I would sign

lancsdave 21-04-2013 22:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1054831)
In that case Dave, the lads worth checking out.:)

Had a short loan spell at Fleetwood when they won the conference. They didn't take him on but from what I can gather he's learnt a lot playing a full season at Barrow. Always thought he would do better at Burnley but he's not the tallest footballer around :D

lancsdave 21-04-2013 22:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1054832)
Barrow AFC - Football - Lee McEvilly Footballer

this is the only Barrow player I would sign


You do realise today is the 21st of April not the 1st :D

carpon 21-04-2013 22:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1054832)
Barrow AFC - Football - Lee McEvilly Footballer

this is the only Barrow player I would sign

Stop it will you......I've nearly spat a mouthfull of lager all over the screen reading that comment !!!:rofl38::sick:

I really do hope you're not serious with these comments:eek:

cashman 21-04-2013 22:28

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Davo is extracting the urine,:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Exile on Spencer St 22-04-2013 06:45

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I suspect Davo is living in a parallel past universe that's a decade behind the one that Stanley now inhabit.

DAV007 22-04-2013 09:35

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It was a joke, then again...

accybeme 23-04-2013 06:55

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The rumour mill is busy some could be right most will be wrong, but anyway here is a link to a list of players rumoured to be leaving and joining Stanley

Accrington Stanley Rumours

lancsdave 23-04-2013 07:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accybeme (Post 1054993)
The rumour mill is busy some could be right most will be wrong, but anyway here is a link to a list of players rumoured to be leaving and joining Stanley

Accrington Stanley Rumours


That website is about as factual as a political party manifesto in a General election

cashman 23-04-2013 07:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 1054997)
That website is about as factual as a political party manifesto in a General election

I normally ignore it, Probably owned by some wannabes.:)

Mr T 23-04-2013 07:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accybeme (Post 1054993)
The rumour mill is busy some could be right most will be wrong, but anyway here is a link to a list of players rumoured to be leaving and joining Stanley

Accrington Stanley Rumours

WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH!!

Walsall and Oldham scouts at the SFS v Morecambe!!

Unless they paid cash on the turnstiles neither club where present!!

Several other managers/scouts were present, but defo not those:p

lancsdave 23-04-2013 08:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1054999)
I normally ignore it, Probably owned by some wannabes.:)

Maybe it will be proved how useless it is later ;)

FrankMoody 23-04-2013 11:32

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the website and scout spotting may be rubbsih but does anyone genuinely think we will hang on to Lingazi, Boco, Molyneux, Jeffers, Beattie (Hope not).

Are Wilson, Hunt, Rachuba and Hughes on loan still? - doubtful if we can we afford them???

lancsdave 23-04-2013 11:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 1055008)
Maybe it will be proved how useless it is later ;)

I rest my case :D

Div3North 23-04-2013 12:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankMoody (Post 1055037)
the website and scout spotting may be rubbsih but does anyone genuinely think we will hang on to Lingazi, Boco, Molyneux, Jeffers, Beattie (Hope not).

Are Wilson, Hunt, Rachuba and Hughes on loan still? - doubtful if we can we afford them???

Would like to hope so ......... Jeffers and Beattie can help the club big time, and don't seem to be costing us a lot. Wilson is ours (not on loan); Hughes went back to Bury after his injury, I understand; Hunt's on loan from Rotherham - nice if we could get him; Rachubka is out of contract this year at Leeds, I believe.

Linganzi, Boco and Molyneux are likely the first three who'll be targeted, I'd think, maybe along with Tom Aldred. Hope we get to keep the lot, personally :D - that'd put the wind up League Two for next season! :p:p:p

And don't forget our recent record (with these same players) - P8 W5 D2 L1

Stanley for the Cup! :alright:

maccawozzagod 23-04-2013 14:59

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Rachubka or Belford or Dunbavin

Winnard, Aldred, Hughes, Wilson
Joyce, Linganzi
Boco, Hatfield, Molyneux
Jeffers

that team would rip League 2 a new arsehole next season

:)

players like Hunt to reinforce the right side, Amond or Beattie to change the front line.

I think we need a real midfield enforcer and probably a right sided midfielder who can cross a ball. As good as Hatfield has been recently, Boco would do an even better job through the middle if we had a right sided player

maccawozzagod 23-04-2013 15:04

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please can we have some money Mr Khan? :)

cashman 23-04-2013 15:07

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That would be a dream team in my eyes rob.:eek:

Pendle Red 23-04-2013 16:56

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As good as this team has grown into we have to accept cold hard facts that we should as a Club be governed by strict Budgets within that there has to be scope to manoeuvre but that has to come from the same pot.

Players also deserve our respect if they also decide to move on to which they think will further their careers they have helped the cause by keeping us in League Two for which we should be grateful not as in another thread on here in subject of ridicule.

We must become self sufficient no ifs and no buts.

Redraine 23-04-2013 17:27

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They're working on it!

Stanley eye a cash boost (From Lancashire Telegraph)

maccawozzagod 23-04-2013 17:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pendle Red (Post 1055074)
Players also deserve our respect if they also decide to move on to which they think will further their careers they have helped the cause by keeping us in League Two for which we should be grateful not as in another thread on here in subject of ridicule.

Sean McCon-vile thread?

I agree with what you've said there Neil, except that this particular non-league player deserved every last bit of ridicule as he made a ludicrously ridiculous decision to join a non league club that was imploding in favour of staying with the club that was threatening to go places.

Not only that but he did not inform his Uncle Jimmy and adopted uncle John that he was going until he had gone. I am positive that it was decision to go that ripped apart the most succesful squad this club has ever had.


I've got half a mind to copy and paste this into that thread just so that your name appears in it!!! :alright:

cashman 23-04-2013 18:03

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You may kiss ass Neil, but i never will.:rolleyes:

Pendle Red 23-04-2013 19:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1055087)

You see something within that I don't :confused:

Pendle Red 23-04-2013 19:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1055096)
You may kiss ass Neil, but i never will.:rolleyes:

I kiss no one's Butt Cashy

The thread is nearly two years old and that tells me all I need to know Thanks

smudgie 23-04-2013 19:18

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That team would be Top 6 for me.

No question.

lancsdave 23-04-2013 19:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1055087)

I would imagine that's a page filling story. Peter would have been trying to get investment in for the past few years. Maybe they have already been offered it :rolleyes:

Exile on Spencer St 23-04-2013 20:21

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As speculation about next year's squad has replaced cricket as this country's favourite summer sporting pastime, here's a question that's just intended to provoke some debate.
If we could guarantee to retain the current squad but had to find more money to keep Boco, Linganzi and Molyneux in particular, how much more would you pay to watch Stanley per game?
Mmmm..?

football19 23-04-2013 20:24

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I am sure Proccy only has 12 months left on his contract at Preston,if he's not getting a game,wonder if a deal could be done,I would defo have him back as I can't see Linganzi being here,who I rate as being one of the most talented lads I have seen in a Acci shirt

Pendle Red 23-04-2013 20:26

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To kick you off Exile I personally would have paid what I paid last year for a Season Ticket

cashman 23-04-2013 21:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pendle Red (Post 1055127)
To kick you off Exile I personally would have paid what I paid last year for a Season Ticket

Can't argue wi that!

Outback Ozzy 23-04-2013 21:19

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Again my twopenneth on this thread. Try and keep the lot, offer a 2 year deal to Linganzi, Moly, Boco and offer Hunt a contract if he will leave Rotherham. Goalie wise do we keep Rachubka as cover for Bav's or do we look elsewhere? Over the last 15 games, this team has gelled nicely and I would certainly retain Beattie and Jeffers if possible.

cashman 23-04-2013 21:23

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Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 1055136)
Again my twopenneth on this thread. Try and keep the lot, offer a 2 year deal to Linganzi, Moly, Boco and offer Hunt a contract if he will leave Rotherham. Goalie wise do we keep Rachubka as cover for Bav's or do we look elsewhere? Over the last 15 games, this team has gelled nicely and I would certainly retain Beattie and Jeffers if possible.

I would retain all those if possible, reckon the goalie to me is a confidence player,n in recent games has certainly earned his corn,:)

lancsdave 23-04-2013 21:38

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I think the best Leam can hope for is that the players who will be tempted by the money tell him at the outset so he knows he will have to cover those positions. Unfortunatley recent form means it's likely there will be a big shift in turnover, very few players have loyalty to a club, human nature says if a well paid job is offered you are likely to take it. Only later will you know if you regret it. I'm sure we have all been there.

cashman 23-04-2013 21:42

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Recent form is far from unfortunate in my book, were still a league club.;)

lancsdave 23-04-2013 21:42

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1055147)
Recent form is far from unfortunate in my book, were still a league club.;)

Pedantic git, you knew what I meant :D:D

cashman 23-04-2013 21:58

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 1055148)
Pedantic git, you knew what I meant :D:D

Hey Dingle i'm no peado.:D:D

carpon 23-04-2013 22:57

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To be honest, I think we've got to put good, improved deals in front of all of the lads under 24.Ideally 2 year contracts for the star performers.
Add some incentive based clauses..... should we progress towards holding down a place in the top seven / promotion and others should we achieve the goal of promotion next season.

Build in provisions that they're free to speak to another side as long as a realistic minimum bid is received for any of them during the duration of the contract (should they sign the improved deal)

And try & persuade some of these lads, that forwarding their career at Stanley in the short term may be better than getting splinters in their backsides at a "bigger" club.

If all that fails, then at least by offering improved terms to the lads under 24 we get a fee if they turn down the improved deal, should they choose to move on. Should they sign the improved deals and a bigger side comes sniffing, we get a "proper" fee.:o

It would be nice to keep the majority of these players next season as I think the "penny has dropped" and we're now playing as a very effective and cohesive unit. Like others have said, a few additions in certain areas and this side could suprise a few next season.

maccawozzagod 23-04-2013 23:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carpon (Post 1055167)
Should they sign the improved deals and a bigger side comes sniffing, we get a "proper" fee.:o

that's the real heartbreak of being a poor club. Linganzi has some real potential which will only be fulfilled if he is playing week in week out. If he stays here for a while longer (half a chance, he's been bench warming for a long time) then we could stand to make a goodly amount of money on him - but we can't afford to offer him the deal that should make him stay ... so we'll get nowt.

Similar story for Molyneux but I suspect not as high a potential fee eventually

Alex Cisak is another who could have played another 100 games for us in League 2 and would probably be on higher radars now - but went to Oldham and is now out of favour.

Bobby Grant, Jimmy Ryan - if we could have afforded improved offers to stave off the interest of a slighter higher club would have played week in week out at a level they excelled at and would probably have got bigger moves.


I don't begrudge any of them for moving on for the first sniff of better money, but it's such a shame that we'll probably never get the big money because we cant hold on to them long enough.

Outback Ozzy 24-04-2013 09:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1055169)
that's the real heartbreak of being a poor club. Linganzi has some real potential which will only be fulfilled if he is playing week in week out. If he stays here for a while longer (half a chance, he's been bench warming for a long time) then we could stand to make a goodly amount of money on him - but we can't afford to offer him the deal that should make him stay ... so we'll get nowt.

Similar story for Molyneux but I suspect not as high a potential fee eventually

Alex Cisak is another who could have played another 100 games for us in League 2 and would probably be on higher radars now - but went to Oldham and is now out of favour.

Bobby Grant, Jimmy Ryan - if we could have afforded improved offers to stave off the interest of a slighter higher club would have played week in week out at a level they excelled at and would probably have got bigger moves.


I don't begrudge any of them for moving on for the first sniff of better money, but it's such a shame that we'll probably never get the big money because we cant hold on to them long enough.

I personally wouldn't mind if Alex Cisak came back to us from Oldham and possibly Phil Edwards from Rochdale, surprisingly and controversially, I would have Andy Mangan back off Fleetwood, but Ithink they are all probably non-starters for our little club.

maccawozzagod 24-04-2013 12:58

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perhaps that gives way to a close season distraction thread?

what 18 man squad would you have out of the players that have played for us in recent seasons (and are still playing) if we had twice the budget that we have? Given that we reckon this seasons budget to be around £500k, a cool £1m still wouldn't be much to some of the teams in this division but would double the wages keep Linganzi, Molyneux and Boco? Would double the wages have kept hold of Edwards, Cisak, Grant and Ryan? Obviously players like Elliot and Roberts would be out of the question

Food for thought ...

smudgie 24-04-2013 19:42

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Next season's playoff winners :D..... One can only dream :D

.........Belford...........
Hunt......Aldred.......Winnard........Wilson
.........Miller......... Linganzi
Boco.......Hatfield...........Molyneux
...........Jeffers..........

Subs
Bavs
Beattie
Podge
Murphy
Lindfield
Joyce
Liddle

football19 24-04-2013 20:36

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Think for his first season,Miller did ok and just run out of steam,which happens.Great potential and I hope we re-sign him as I feel he will improve with the experience he has gained.
Wouldn't dismiss Clarke either,as he is young but has something about him.

Outback Ozzy 25-04-2013 07:06

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Smudgie, as much as I like Cameron Belford, I have this distinct impression that Rachubka may just stay with us, and lets not forget , yes he is in the old Bav's mode of giving everyone a heart attack, but equally he has made some important saves for us this season. So maybe the team will be Rachubka and the remainder i.e. this seasons team. On players to keep, I personally wouldn't mind keeping Bohan Dixon, even if it means loaning him out again early doors. I believe he will make a superb centre forward for us one day.

cashman 25-04-2013 13:39

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I think Dixon has the makings of a fair un, Reckon he may learn more from Franny n Beattie than out on loan?:);)

smudgie 25-04-2013 16:30

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Dixon is a young lad with potential but as with Carver needs game time at a decent level.

Hopefully they go on loan to Southport or Altrincham etc and show us what they can do.

football19 25-04-2013 16:47

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Interested to find out how Andy Owens did at southport,liked him a lot,and I think they played him in centre mid and he was comfortable in possession .He may be ready for another crack at league football

football19 27-04-2013 09:25

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From a pure selfish point,I hope dean and Aldred continue there partnership next season,despite Tom not having much game time and Dean being injured,they complimented each other.
12 games together resulted in 6 wins,3 draws and 3 losses and gaining 6 clean sheets,this is promotion form!.
With a good pre-season,they will only get better---hope Leam uses his charm !!!

cashman 27-04-2013 10:05

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Have to agree,young Aldred has been a revelation this season in my eyes.:)

DAV007 27-04-2013 19:58

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1055831)
Have to agree,young Aldred has been a revelation this season in my eyes.:)

We agree again,
he was my choice for player of the season.

He has more potential than Dean, its hard to see Dean playing any higher than a midtable league 2 team but Aldred has the potential to keep improving, keep building his confidence and potentially play in a higher division.

Did Romy Boco wave goodbye for the last time today?
What was his body language like?

smudgie 28-04-2013 08:01

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Agreed Aldred has been superb !!!

football19 28-04-2013 08:34

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Successful teams have good partnerships and compliments each other,Aldred is a strong lad who loves to head the ball,Deans a good reader of the game,and when fit,is as quick as anyone.It's a good combination,and there only 22/23 so plenty of time.
For a big lad,Aldred is good with the ball around his feet,and shows good composure.

lancsdave 28-04-2013 12:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1055938)
Did Romy Boco wave goodbye for the last time today?
What was his body language like?

He said last night he has to have some discussions so it's up in the air along with many others. I think he's one of those players that probably allows a little bit of emotion decide where he plays rather than just a financial one.

smudgie 28-04-2013 13:22

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I will be amazed if Rommy isnt at Chesterfield next season.

cashman 28-04-2013 13:23

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 1056077)
I will be amazed if Rommy isnt at Chesterfield next season.

According to there forum,hes yon next week fer talks.:eek:

smudgie 28-04-2013 13:26

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Now there's a surprise !

football19 28-04-2013 19:01

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I hope Leam has a look at Josh O'Keefe this summer.young centre mid and at 6-3 is in the Proccy mould.Pretty sure Cooky had a look at him but nothing came of it and he signed for Hereford.
They have just missed out on the play-offs,and despite there problems,has scored 13 goals from centre mid,despite being a holding player!,not easy in the conference.
He came through the Blackburn system and is a local lad,defo worth a look following his exploits this season


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