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With Cardiff's great victory against Man City today what does it all mean for us on Wednesday night - a full house? We all know the answer to that one. Malky Mackay has spent 28 million on 5 new players this season after running away with the Championship last season, so whether or not he fields a "weakened" side Stanley will be up against it big time. Maybe its a match we could do without just now considering our current position, but as Malky was quoted as saying to his players before the City game, "every player has to look at their opposite number and think "you're not going to be better than me today"". It worked for them, but..............

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Will be interesting to see how many of today's starting line up play on Wednesday night, I'll go for 2 :)

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As long as one of them is not Campbell.... :)

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Aint fussed how many first teamers they play, don't expect Stanley to beat em, saying that i went to Boro expecting us to get stuffed, so yeh just never know.:)

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but............#passionovercomeslogic

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they struggled to beat City, so they have little chance of beating Stanley

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It's a chance to claim a Premiership Scalp regardless of who they put out, advance in the competition, claim more prize money plus another chance to pull one of the Big Six in the 3rd Round.

He who Dares Wins:)

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For that to happen, Bavs will need beat his superman performance at Middlesbrough!

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Without giving em a goal start.:D

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me too

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Unfortunately there is no prize money until the semi final.

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Whilst i enjoy seeing us draw a bigger club, Is it worth while small clubs taking part in this competition?:confused: Because seemingly 90% of the time only bigger clubs will get any prize money!!! The odds are stacked against smaller clubs, personally think they should tell em to get stuffed.:(

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Always the chance to pull a plum tie or do a Bradford

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Not disputing that fact, just disgusted at the way the odds are stacked.;)

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Don't disagree and at the same time you can also see why some bigger teams field second strings to focus on the PL catch 22 but for us may also kick start the season

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True it could also cost us dearly wi injuries/suspensions etc, when survival is our main objective n therefore if yer getting sod all whilst semi-finals to my mind it aint worth the risks.

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Guess the only incentive for the 'minnows' is gate money from matches against Premier League teams. But if the clubs share it, then, financially, Stanley might have preferred the game in Cardiff?
Otherwise it does seem like a potentially risky venture, if any players pick up an injury, for no guarantee of income.

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Perhaps we should field our second string too, then? Oh, wait a minute....

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Still time to take advantage of the 241 offer :)

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Hope we can get a crowd and create an atmosphere :) :) :)

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Reckon the ultras always create n atmosphere joe, its just a crowd were short of.:eek:;)

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True Cashy.... :)

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I suppose there's money to be made from a decent turnout from a plum draw.

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Well Morecambe are certainly going to make a bomb on their televised match with the Barcodes, plus they will have a sell-out crowd of 5000+. They fancy their chances too although Podge has already found his best position with them. On the bench.

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Aint noticed Morecambe Red back on here to tell us what a great signing they made?:D He was full of it before Podge actually signed.:D

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Just heard on Radio Lancs.Stanley could be without six players for tomorrow nights game JB may have to name himself as a sub.

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What 6 did it say? Webber n Wilson i can see but the other 4:confused:

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Saw the Cardiff City Coach on Whalley Road just after 1pm today as I was taking my dad to the doctors.

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They musta come up early to do some shopping in our Metropolis?:D:D

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I wonder if they saw everything by 5 past 1 ? ;)

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No chance Dave was open.;)

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Its the same in every competition Cashy, don't think a team from the third tier of British Football has ever won the FA cup, but the League Cup was won by QPR while they were in Div 3

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Ooh, a glut of Greggs greasy sossy rolls & a can of super strength lager! Pure class, probably don't have them in the valleys of welsh Wales. :s_aim1:

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Slightly off topic, but Michael Symes has just put Burton 2-1 up against Fulham!
Shock on the cards?

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Interesting comments from Beats on Fishy. says he may be on bench tomoz, i reckon no-way hose.:D

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Young Wilson could earn his debut tonight. Dunbavin may need a knee operation.

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Reckon its the only option if thats the case, unless Murph gets a shot.:D Hope Dunbavin don't need n op.

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Marcus Bettinelli - keeper On loan from Fulham.

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That seems strange both this lad from Fulham n Wilson are same age?:confused:

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Wonder what's happened to Andrew Dawber?

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On loan to Marine like Carver was,to gain experience.;)

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He'd have certainly gained some tonight :eek:

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Hes were he needs to be in my opinion.:) certainly wasn't ready fer Div2.

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Or Premier League Strikers - Could have shattered his confidence altogether.

Wilson must be favourite having been here a week.

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Originally Posted by smobile (Post 1073297) ...having been here a week.

A week already ! Jings, the way things have been happening he's almost an old-timer with Stanley.

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Don't think so, one was released by a premiership club and struggled to find a new club, one is still on the books of a premiership club.
Expecting Marcus Bettinelli to start.

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COME ON THE REDSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

Aparently the young keeper from Fulham was brilliant in the conference last season for Dartford. :)

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Dam,, no sign of rain down here so have to go to work and can't follow game.. DAM.
C'mon STANLEY.

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TEAM...... Bettinelli, Murphy, Aldred, Atkinson, Liddle, Joyce, Richardson, Clark, Mingoia, Hatfield, Naismith

SUBS...... B Wilson, McCartan, Gray, Carver, Windass, Mahoney, Jenkins

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Mahoney & Jenkins both youth team then....... No JB on the bench?

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Ht and stanley are holding there own against the prem team, good first half think we might nick one second half :0)

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Cardiff may make history tonight. Can't be many teams that, in consecutive games, have played against the richest and the skintest league teams.

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I'll have a pint of what you're drinking :D

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Poor attendance tonight

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Very poor :(

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What was gate? Both side about ?

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Thought Stanley played very well against a strong Cardiff side, New keeper played very well, Richardson was much improved, Atko a colossus, overall no-one let stanley down, yeh wouldn't think twas the same side that lost to Cheltenham, ( it wasn't.:D) some of our movement i thought as good as ive seen,since return to the league. WELL DONE. Same again on Sat please.:)

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1600 is a joke for a big game against a premier league side.....where the hell is everyone?

We are looking like a bad side fair enough but still!

where are all the people that watched us win the conference or the unibond for that matter! Last time I saw them it was outside the town hall saying how good it was to have the town team back in the league!

Well done to the stay aways because you will soon see us relegated, maybe you will all start coming again when its bamber bridge on boxing day!

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Good performance by the Reds tonight in view of the injury/suspension situation. JB was trying to do a Chelsea by not starting with any out and out attackers and it worked for a long time. It's a pity their big useless 8 million quid n0.9 had to go off, because his even bigger replacement lump was a real handful and made all the difference, but Tom can take enormous credit for making the "waste of money" look like a conference player. Up to their first goal Stanley looked the better team in the second half and started to put their defence under real pressure, but after they scored they were able to relax and play their clever possession footy, or "taking the ****", if you prefer.
Whoever gave out the MOM award needs to be told you don't give it to the one player who constantly gives away the ball in dangerous attacking positions, and I had that Gordon Lightfoot moment yet again when it was announced....... " I just don't get it". Big minus tonight was our terrible set piece/free kick delivery standard, but overall I feel pretty confident we can get out of the current mess.

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I thought that Stanley played well tonight and came out of the match with quite a lot of credit. It was a moment of class by Maynard that took the game away from us and we were just asleep for the second goal scored within a minute of the first! 2 - 0 seemed a bit harsh. After that Cardiff just passed the ball around in order to make us chase shadows. The central defence pairing is looking better every match and again Aldred was my man of the match for Stanley. Until they scored Joyce played much better. Carver did well when he came on and I would like to see him paired up front with Naismith. The emergency keeper looked confident and dominated the box. The young number 23 did well when he came on too. If we can reproduce this form, effort and cohesive play against division 2 sides then I see no reason why we can't make a move up the league. Some great support tonight from The Ultras behind the goal.
ON STANLEY ON!:hothothot

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Got to agree Cashman,keeper bloody awesome,commanded his area very well,his kicking and throwing excellent going to our own players for a change.Disappointed Carver didn't get the nod but what a bloody difference when he and Mahoney came on chased everything giving the defence no time on the ball and all of a sudden chances appeared.Carver should start on Saturday and Mahoney on the bench at least.Its coming the charge up the table keep the faith.

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Forgot to mention Richardson........what a difference,true ability there!

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Moly was very hit n miss when he first came, but what a player he became, suspect Richardson will be similar, definate ability just needs to develop a bit.;)

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Forgot to mention Richarsdson,what a difference coming on well should make the grade.

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What match were you two buddies watching? Beer in't Greyhound must be pretty damn strong!

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Difficult to judge tonight relative to last 3 games because they're a Premier League side, who had good players, were well organised and pressed when they didn't have the ball.

We competed well despite the gulf in class, and felt match turned on one moment of top quality from their 23, and we switched off for the 2nd. Up to then, we'd done a reasonable job in containing them although they kept pressing and switching the play.

Is perhaps a little unfair to judge from tonight, but worrying for me that we've only had 1 shot on target in last 2 matches, haven't posed any real goal threat, had no sustained pressure and haven't scored in last 3. Added to this, we've not looked like keeping a clean sheet.

New keeper look assured and should help. 3 points with bonus of none conceded is a must for me on Sat

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Have to agree with Darwen Red, our near namesake. 1617 is a scandal, especially when the Shrimpers pick up 5300 and the sponds from being live on Sky.

Poor old JB really does need all the help/support/appreciation he can get..all our really experienced players hurt/ suspended- a tiny squad etc etc.

But even with those caveats we saw so much to encourage us tonight. The defence looked rock solid for so much of the game- Atko and even moreso Aldred were monumental. For me Aldred has been absolutely magnificent since he arrived- a real find. Keep going Tom! Murphy as ever was all heart. Richardson was much improved and more assertive.


Very reassured by Marcus Betinelli- relieved that his first name isn't Sky!! Thought he was excellent- bossed the box, confident catching- quick distribution- welcome aboard Marcus- time at Stanley is a real badge of honour- you'll soon realise this!!!

Really liked the look of young Mahoney as well- he seemed fearless and created chances when he was on. As for Naismith- he's skilful, works tremendously hard BUT- I feel he should concentrate on keeping focused when he loses the ball - he gets too frustrated too quickly and needs to work on his psychology- and also sometimes- be a little less selfish- flicks etc are delightful but often I feel there's one too many and that's when we lose the ball. But the raw material is there to be sure- a really exciting prospect.

But one final Q- if you disregard the Clayton End- (which I would never do) we're beginning to suspect there are more Darreners turning up than Accringtonians- that MUST change.

Keep the faith and really get behind James and the boys Saturday next.

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Hey were in different sides of the ground never see one another match days, but at the same match.:D

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The gate of 1617 is worrying. The club need to look at how games like this are promoted as its been veer glow key and almost slipped under the radar. I remember other cup games, Newcastle, Notts Forest etc where there was a pre match build up, decent atmosphere and a sense of anticipation in the ground. Tonight was flat.

Really got to get into local folk to support the team as it feels lethargy setting in if we can't muster ourselves for turn out to see Premier League players at our ground.

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And I haven't had a drink for 15 years,maybe you should try specsavers when you sober up!!!

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Accy can proud of their display tonight, more than matched Cardiff for 55 minutes until their class showed. Plenty of positives to take out of the performance and should give the lads a confidence boost for Saturday.

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Sorry but same old same old for me.

Fair enough the keeper and 2 CBs had decent games but to call that Cardiff XI a premiership side is kidding ourselves - it was a team of 2nd and 3rd string players - we'll player stronger teams in the league this season.

We sat to deep with no out ball so we could never get out of defence - this seems to be a common issue this season not just tonight.

Its a long season ahead

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Pathetic yet again from the Accy public, half of whom probably think Cardiff are still in the Championship. You make a very good point re. the lack of build up in the media especially, but it doesn't help that we don't have a proper, authentic local paper any more. Two other points. One, this competition has been devalued in recent years, and we all know the big teams are going to send their reserve squads, which doesn't help a bit, so the ticket prices were quite high, even though the special 2 for one offer should have made a bigger difference. Still, well done to the Shrimps for a great attendance, even though they drew the biggest travelling support in the land.

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What planet are you on Sam?:confused: The player stretchered off was worth more than our squad,:rolleyes: n he was very useful before the injury, Better sides in league 2, are yeh pished?:rolleyes:

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Bit harsh, that. I wonder how the wages of tonight's squads compare? Do you know how much their no.9 cost?

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Sorry Sam but even their second string is a top 6 championship side, Cardiff have vast resources that we could only dream of. We competed well for 55 minutes and they had one touch of magic that swung the game in their favour.

If you honestly think we will play better teams in League 2 you are wrong IMO. Why are people finding negatives in a performance that was solid and effort levels were excellent? Get behind the players.

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I think i saw one Cardiff fan wearing a red "Bluebirds" shirt!:rolleyes:

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Have to agree with Sam,our game plan seemed to be sit deep,don't let them get behind us and keep our defensive shape of two narrow banks of four.
We never got after them,indeed we let them have the ball upto the last third and at times,it must have felt like a training session for them.
You practice defence v attack on a regular basis,and when we got the ball,most of the time,we went long,give it away and they started again.
Positives,we kept our shape(far too deep tho),the keepers performance and finally young Mahoneys debut.
For a 16 year old,he looked our most effective offensive player.
Was told about him prior to his debut and he didn't disappoint - potentially the best talent to come out of the youth system !!!!

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So we're going help him to develop him in our first team while our own (better) players sit on the bench......and we effectively play with 10 men - what a charitable lot we are!

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well go on name these better players. if it takes a few games to get into it then well worth it in my view.

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Pretty fair report from their end.

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I'll be there Saturday, from Darwen:):):):p

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Explain how yeh come to that conclusion, 8 who played last night were members of the side that won the championship, so yer talking through yer arse to me, saying we will play stronger teams in the league this season.

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very true .....

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Hubby and i agree with Cashy. We reckon that if Stanley had those 8 players ( if they were regular members) in their team this year they would be playing league 1 next year.

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Agree with you there Cashy !!...and Hey !...did you see who slithered off into the VIP Lounge for a Half-time Pie !...sheer effrontery ???.

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Never saw anyone from our Clayton End position, But did hear today Snake n his oppo slithered by..........also heard one who was in situ before Snake was also yon, but that bit sounds a bit much to me,:confused: also heard one who has recently departed was in hiding in suit n club tie.:D life is so full of little surprises.:D Though did think we saw Lou on Clayton End?

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Who is Stanley's next away league game ? ;)

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Not sure he isn't better than anyone sat on the bench in his position. Loan players are important to the club, treat them badly and you run out of clubs who will lend them to you. I seem to remember Kevin Long having a nightmare when he first arrived.

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Ah a common sense view, nice change.:D;) Longy was sent off first game n the dummies were saying donkey pmsl

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It's hard to put a judgement on it in such a cup tie but we could of had a chance tonight.

Keeper was superb and looks really good ! Really really need to keep him for a decent size loan!

The defence (mainly Aldred) was very solid but I lost count of how many times Atkinson couldn't even pass to a player in red or even up the line. Luke Clarke was awful at right back and in my opinion he is awful altogether and not a football league player! Yes , he's not a right back but last night he couldn't pass on the floor and he had numerous chances to cross the ball in but couldn't beat the first man or it beat the last man in the stand !

Richardson except from his chasing of the ball in the last ten minutes was awful again. You can tell him and Joyce don't like working together and what's even worse they can't. He was absolutely terrified most times to even put a challenge in and didn't even get close to pressure Cardiff players who loved having all that space. He can't cross the ball either , I remember one cross where it was frankly embarrassing.

Naismith just carries the team attacking wise and just gets frustrated at times how slow others react around him when he's trying to create ! He definitely puts the effort in and hopefully when webbers back , with them two at full pace it'll cause defenders in league 2 massive problems! Can you imagine if we still had Rommy, him and Rommy on both wings would of been awesome this season!

The problem is our attack , we have no good wingers except Naismith as the lad with no knees can't run and take on defenders to save his life and we have no one who can shoot on goal or put a good cross in either ! Forward wise we need another league 2 striker , with another an webber we at least have a positive forward position!

You just look at squads in this league and we are massively behind them !!

Wet here's only so much JB can do without any dollar , I'm just hoping we can get some from somewhere to get a few players on wages or loans !

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What a cracking report " ON STANLEY ON "

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Well beats thinks hes coming on well, would suggest hes got more idea than you.:rolleyes:

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Hardly put a foot wrong just one stray pass.Share Beatties optimism,just hope he comes on rapidly so we can gain some real benefit.

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Sat alongside me was Paul Cooks brother , I asked him who he was supporting , he said he was just watching his mate Pete Murphy . Later in the game he asked who no 14 was. Hope he not planning on getting Paul to poach
them.

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Correction . It was no 11 not no 14.

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Pretty sure number 11's naismith

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He's the one he asked about.

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I'd have said 'aye, his surname's Richardson and he's on loan from Newcastle' !!

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...followed by "and next time buy your own programme, you tightwad!"

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14 is Luke Clarke also Richardson looks a good prospect needs confidence and a bit of patience from the crowd.