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Chubbyman 12-09-2013 16:00
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[QUOTE=Revived Red;1075370]Why don't you read what I wrote instead of what you think I wrote? I never said Bavs was better or worse than anyone else, and I certainly couldn't compare him with Wilson because I have never seen Wilson play. Yes, Bavs has made silly mistakes - tell me a goalkeeper who hasn't. Joe Hart, David Seaman, Iker Casillas, even Lev Yashin. Sadly goalkeepers are too often judged on silly mistakes as Gary Sprake can testify. Forget this stuff about the goalkeeper dominating his box and such like. The goalkeeper's first priority is to prevent that ball going into the net. Before his injury last season, Bavs did exactly that superbly. I suggest you read those match reports once again. I'll say it again - simply and without suggesting any comparisons. Bavs does not deserve the bashing.[/QUOTI

I suppose all the refs reports on matches are accurate as well.I don't need to read the match reports again as my eyes are obviously far better focused than yours. As for forget goalkeepers dominating their box that is a poor footballing statement.Any goalkeeper who has total domination of his box in a game can only then concede a goal from outside the box a big plus in any game,that's why Brian Clough always said Shilton was worth a goal start.

Chubbyman 12-09-2013 16:09
Re: Oldham snap up Rachubka
 
Is the 2 year contract not because he will be coaching as well as playing, or have I got my wires crossed?

cashman 12-09-2013 16:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1075361)
Yeh but it aint just fer goalkeeping is it.? Its a cheap option which Stanley needed to take.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1075389)
Is the 2 year contract not because he will be coaching as well as playing, or have I got my wires crossed?
Exactly.

Chubbyman 12-09-2013 16:17
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1075390)
Exactly.
Exactly what Cashman ? Have I got my wires crossed or is he intending to carry on as a coach?

maccawozzagod 12-09-2013 17:03
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Bavs has superb shot stopping skills and agility, on a par with any other goalkeeper we've had over the past few years. Some other aspects of his game aren't the greatest but if they were then he would have left us years ago and moved up the ladder. He has been a superb servant to the club and in the last couple of years has made the most of the 1st team opportunities that have come his way.

He's a cracking number 2, but I've no worries about him being number 1 neither. Some of the keeper bashing that he's suffered from over the last 7 years has been unfair because he has played behind some awful back fours in that time.

cashman 12-09-2013 17:07
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Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1075392)
Exactly what Cashman ? Have I got my wires crossed or is he intending to carry on as a coach?
Hes coaching also so ive been told.

accytom101 12-09-2013 17:52
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Well in my opinion Dunbavin is a good shot stopper... BUT he dose not command his area.... it's a fact.

yerself 12-09-2013 18:11
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Originally Posted by accytom101
Well in my opinion Dunbavin is a good shot stopper... BUT he dose not command his area.... it's a fact.
Which one is it then, fact or opinion?

accytom101 12-09-2013 19:45
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It is my opinion, that he is a good shot stopper. It is a fact, he doesn't command his area..... SIMPLE PLAIN ENGLISH!

accytom101 12-09-2013 19:48
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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 1075407)
Which one is it then, fact or opinion?
It is my OPINION that he is a good shot stopper. It is a FACT that he does not command his area.... SIMPLE PLAIN ENGLISH!

Revived Red 12-09-2013 22:27
Re: Oldham snap up Rachubka
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1075386)

Any goalkeeper who has total domination of his box in a game can only then concede a goal from outside the box.
From the report on the Cardiff game:
the Premier League side almost made the breakthrough when Bettinelli was caught out of his goal trying to stop Maynard

Maynard got the ball in the area and showed his skill by flicking the ball over the Stanley defence and firing low into the bottom of the net

Gestede doubled the Bluebirds advantage, by catching the defence cold and slotting home from close range

From the report on the Burton game:
Adam McGurk’s shot from a central free-kick was spilled by Bettinelli but no-one was able to follow up.
And when Burton did score, that was from well inside the goal area.

Total domination of his box???:confused::confused::confused:

Chubbyman 12-09-2013 23:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1075451)
From the report on the Cardiff game:
the Premier League side almost made the breakthrough when Bettinelli was caught out of his goal trying to stop Maynard

Maynard got the ball in the area and showed his skill by flicking the ball over the Stanley defence and firing low into the bottom of the net

Gestede doubled the Bluebirds advantage, by catching the defence cold and slotting home from close range

From the report on the Burton game:
Adam McGurk’s shot from a central free-kick was spilled by Bettinelli but no-one was able to follow up.
And when Burton did score, that was from well inside the goal area.

Total domination of his box???:confused::confused::confused:
Perhaps one should learn to read and digest the context of the post before replying.Maybe you should read a few of Bavs write ups.Lets see how goals conceded tally up with each keeper after a few more games.Maybe just maybe a few of you will take your blinkers off when you realise you're not racehorses!

DAV007 12-09-2013 23:53
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Ian Dunbavin,
he comes from heaven.

Club legend IMO

maccawozzagod 12-09-2013 23:54
Re: Oldham snap up Rachubka
 
well as you know I love a good stat, particularly if it gets to prove a point. Unfortunately I couldn't find a stat to use in Bavs defence (pardon the pun).

Cameron Belford had an average of 40% clean sheets (2 in 5)
Alex Cisak had an average of 33% (9 in 27 games)
Kenny Arthur had an average of 28% clean sheets (20 in 71 games)
Paul Rachubka had an average of 26% (6 in 23)
Sean Murdoch had an average of 27% (4 in 15 games)
Ian Dunbavin has an average of 22% (33 in 147 games)
Dean Bouzanis had an average of 21% (4 in 19 games)
The team itself has an average of 20.6% (78 from 378 games since joining the FL)

Goalkeepers are judged on their clean sheets and we learn that Bavs is not the best goalkeeper we've had, Cameron Belford was! However I'd discount him entirely as 5 games played isn't enough to judge anyone on. Alex Cisak takes the crown as 27 games is enough to be judged on and King Kenny takes a creditable 2nd place (more than creditable as he played behind some shocking teams).

The others are neither here nor there but Bavs isn't that far behind them and has played a hell of a lot more games. The team itself has kept 78 clean sheets in all competitions since joining the FL at an average of 20.6%. So Bavs has performed better than the team average and that's good enough for me.

cashman 13-09-2013 07:06
Re: Oldham snap up Rachubka
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1075463)
well as you know I love a good stat, particularly if it gets to prove a point. Unfortunately I couldn't find a stat to use in Bavs defence (pardon the pun).

Cameron Belford had an average of 40% clean sheets (2 in 5)
Alex Cisak had an average of 33% (9 in 27 games)
Kenny Arthur had an average of 28% clean sheets (20 in 71 games)
Paul Rachubka had an average of 26% (6 in 23)
Sean Murdoch had an average of 27% (4 in 15 games)
Ian Dunbavin has an average of 22% (33 in 147 games)
Dean Bouzanis had an average of 21% (4 in 19 games)
The team itself has an average of 20.6% (78 from 378 games since joining the FL)

Goalkeepers are judged on their clean sheets and we learn that Bavs is not the best goalkeeper we've had, Cameron Belford was! However I'd discount him entirely as 5 games played isn't enough to judge anyone on. Alex Cisak takes the crown as 27 games is enough to be judged on and King Kenny takes a creditable 2nd place (more than creditable as he played behind some shocking teams).

The others are neither here nor there but Bavs isn't that far behind them and has played a hell of a lot more games. The team itself has kept 78 clean sheets in all competitions since joining the FL at an average of 20.6%. So Bavs has performed better than the team average and that's good enough for me.
Well only Boozer,who nobody i know rated is worse, is that not a stat? cos thats good enough fer me.:D


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