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accytom101 07-09-2013 14:33
Oldham snap up Rachubka
 
Oldham Athletic have signed former Stanley goalie Paul Rachubka on a short term deal.

Mr Matthew 07-09-2013 19:57
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Lucky them.

DAV007 07-09-2013 21:26
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Good for them and good for us,
never rated him.

Presume he is cover?

accytom101 08-09-2013 20:21
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Thought he was ok but Belford was a better cover keeper for us.

cashman 08-09-2013 20:30
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Originally Posted by accytom101 (Post 1075018)
Thought he was ok but Belford was a better cover keeper for us.
Would agree, but the lad we got now from Fulham is better n both of em i reckon, a real class act.:)

accytom101 11-09-2013 19:51
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Well one things for sure, all three of em are better than Dunbavin.

Revived Red 11-09-2013 20:52
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Originally Posted by accytom101 (Post 1075335)
Well one things for sure, all three of em are better than Dunbavin.
I, for one, think it's time for the Bavs bashing to stop. I know that Moly and others are generally given credit for keeping us in the League last season but we would have been Conference-bound before Easter had it not been for the performance of Bavs in several games before he was injured.

Chimer 11-09-2013 21:05
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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1075345)
I, for one, think it's time for the Bavs bashing to stop. I know that Moly and others are generally given credit for keeping us in the League last season but we would have been Conference-bound before Easter had it not been for the performance of Bavs in several games before he was injured.
Me for two. He's well earned the No 1 shirt that he's wearing for the first time this year.

Chubbyman 11-09-2013 21:19
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So you don't think Bavs has made several costly mistakes staying glued to his line? Its no good making fantastic shot stopping saves then undoing it all with silly mistakes.Any goalkeeper
worth his salt has to command his 6 yard box if not the full box.Do you honestly believe Bavs is a better keeper than Bettinelli?

Chubbyman 11-09-2013 21:30
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Originally Posted by Chimer (Post 1075349)
Me for two. He's well earned the No 1 shirt that he's wearing for the first time this year.
Maybe in the past but Bavs is to small and won't come off his line and its costly.You can't honestly believe that Bettinelli and Wilson are not better than Bavs.There is no doubting his loyalty to Stanley but you can't play forever and the time comes when it's time to say goodbye and thank you ,have a testimonial.

stanley convert 11-09-2013 21:37
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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1075345)
I, for one, think it's time for the Bavs bashing to stop. I know that Moly and others are generally given credit for keeping us in the League last season but we would have been Conference-bound before Easter had it not been for the performance of Bavs in several games before he was injured.
Absolutely correct !!!

stanley convert 11-09-2013 21:40
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Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1075354)
Maybe in the past but Bavs is to small and won't come off his line and its costly.You can't honestly believe that Bettinelli and Wilson are not better than Bavs.There is no doubting his loyalty to Stanley but you can't play forever and the time comes when it's time to say goodbye and thank you ,have a testimonial.
Not doubting what ya saying about the 2 new kids on the block but BT must rate Bavs cos I do believe he has a 2 year contract in his back sack.

Chubbyman 11-09-2013 21:48
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Originally Posted by stanley convert (Post 1075356)
Think ya might find Bavs has just signed a 2 year contract......
That doesn't make him an outstanding keeper!It just means he was the best choice at that moment in time.With all keepers fit lets see who plays and who's on the bench!

cashman 11-09-2013 21:55
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Originally Posted by stanley convert (Post 1075356)
Not doubting what ya saying about the 2 new kids on the block but BT must rate Bavs cos I do believe he has a 2 year contract in his back sack.
Yeh but it aint just fer goalkeeping is it.? Its a cheap option which Stanley needed to take.

Revived Red 12-09-2013 12:38
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Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1075354)
Maybe in the past but Bavs is to small and won't come off his line and its costly.You can't honestly believe that Bettinelli and Wilson are not better than Bavs.There is no doubting his loyalty to Stanley but you can't play forever and the time comes when it's time to say goodbye and thank you ,have a testimonial.
Why don't you read what I wrote instead of what you think I wrote? I never said Bavs was better or worse than anyone else, and I certainly couldn't compare him with Wilson because I have never seen Wilson play. Yes, Bavs has made silly mistakes - tell me a goalkeeper who hasn't. Joe Hart, David Seaman, Iker Casillas, even Lev Yashin. Sadly goalkeepers are too often judged on silly mistakes as Gary Sprake can testify. Forget this stuff about the goalkeeper dominating his box and such like. The goalkeeper's first priority is to prevent that ball going into the net. Before his injury last season, Bavs did exactly that superbly. I suggest you read those match reports once again. I'll say it again - simply and without suggesting any comparisons. Bavs does not deserve the bashing.

Chubbyman 12-09-2013 16:00
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[QUOTE=Revived Red;1075370]Why don't you read what I wrote instead of what you think I wrote? I never said Bavs was better or worse than anyone else, and I certainly couldn't compare him with Wilson because I have never seen Wilson play. Yes, Bavs has made silly mistakes - tell me a goalkeeper who hasn't. Joe Hart, David Seaman, Iker Casillas, even Lev Yashin. Sadly goalkeepers are too often judged on silly mistakes as Gary Sprake can testify. Forget this stuff about the goalkeeper dominating his box and such like. The goalkeeper's first priority is to prevent that ball going into the net. Before his injury last season, Bavs did exactly that superbly. I suggest you read those match reports once again. I'll say it again - simply and without suggesting any comparisons. Bavs does not deserve the bashing.[/QUOTI

I suppose all the refs reports on matches are accurate as well.I don't need to read the match reports again as my eyes are obviously far better focused than yours. As for forget goalkeepers dominating their box that is a poor footballing statement.Any goalkeeper who has total domination of his box in a game can only then concede a goal from outside the box a big plus in any game,that's why Brian Clough always said Shilton was worth a goal start.

Chubbyman 12-09-2013 16:09
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Is the 2 year contract not because he will be coaching as well as playing, or have I got my wires crossed?

cashman 12-09-2013 16:10
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1075361)
Yeh but it aint just fer goalkeeping is it.? Its a cheap option which Stanley needed to take.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1075389)
Is the 2 year contract not because he will be coaching as well as playing, or have I got my wires crossed?
Exactly.

Chubbyman 12-09-2013 16:17
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1075390)
Exactly.
Exactly what Cashman ? Have I got my wires crossed or is he intending to carry on as a coach?

maccawozzagod 12-09-2013 17:03
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Bavs has superb shot stopping skills and agility, on a par with any other goalkeeper we've had over the past few years. Some other aspects of his game aren't the greatest but if they were then he would have left us years ago and moved up the ladder. He has been a superb servant to the club and in the last couple of years has made the most of the 1st team opportunities that have come his way.

He's a cracking number 2, but I've no worries about him being number 1 neither. Some of the keeper bashing that he's suffered from over the last 7 years has been unfair because he has played behind some awful back fours in that time.

cashman 12-09-2013 17:07
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Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1075392)
Exactly what Cashman ? Have I got my wires crossed or is he intending to carry on as a coach?
Hes coaching also so ive been told.

accytom101 12-09-2013 17:52
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Well in my opinion Dunbavin is a good shot stopper... BUT he dose not command his area.... it's a fact.

yerself 12-09-2013 18:11
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Originally Posted by accytom101
Well in my opinion Dunbavin is a good shot stopper... BUT he dose not command his area.... it's a fact.
Which one is it then, fact or opinion?

accytom101 12-09-2013 19:45
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It is my opinion, that he is a good shot stopper. It is a fact, he doesn't command his area..... SIMPLE PLAIN ENGLISH!

accytom101 12-09-2013 19:48
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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 1075407)
Which one is it then, fact or opinion?
It is my OPINION that he is a good shot stopper. It is a FACT that he does not command his area.... SIMPLE PLAIN ENGLISH!

Revived Red 12-09-2013 22:27
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Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1075386)

Any goalkeeper who has total domination of his box in a game can only then concede a goal from outside the box.
From the report on the Cardiff game:
the Premier League side almost made the breakthrough when Bettinelli was caught out of his goal trying to stop Maynard

Maynard got the ball in the area and showed his skill by flicking the ball over the Stanley defence and firing low into the bottom of the net

Gestede doubled the Bluebirds advantage, by catching the defence cold and slotting home from close range

From the report on the Burton game:
Adam McGurk’s shot from a central free-kick was spilled by Bettinelli but no-one was able to follow up.
And when Burton did score, that was from well inside the goal area.

Total domination of his box???:confused::confused::confused:

Chubbyman 12-09-2013 23:01
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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1075451)
From the report on the Cardiff game:
the Premier League side almost made the breakthrough when Bettinelli was caught out of his goal trying to stop Maynard

Maynard got the ball in the area and showed his skill by flicking the ball over the Stanley defence and firing low into the bottom of the net

Gestede doubled the Bluebirds advantage, by catching the defence cold and slotting home from close range

From the report on the Burton game:
Adam McGurk’s shot from a central free-kick was spilled by Bettinelli but no-one was able to follow up.
And when Burton did score, that was from well inside the goal area.

Total domination of his box???:confused::confused::confused:
Perhaps one should learn to read and digest the context of the post before replying.Maybe you should read a few of Bavs write ups.Lets see how goals conceded tally up with each keeper after a few more games.Maybe just maybe a few of you will take your blinkers off when you realise you're not racehorses!

DAV007 12-09-2013 23:53
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Ian Dunbavin,
he comes from heaven.

Club legend IMO

maccawozzagod 12-09-2013 23:54
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well as you know I love a good stat, particularly if it gets to prove a point. Unfortunately I couldn't find a stat to use in Bavs defence (pardon the pun).

Cameron Belford had an average of 40% clean sheets (2 in 5)
Alex Cisak had an average of 33% (9 in 27 games)
Kenny Arthur had an average of 28% clean sheets (20 in 71 games)
Paul Rachubka had an average of 26% (6 in 23)
Sean Murdoch had an average of 27% (4 in 15 games)
Ian Dunbavin has an average of 22% (33 in 147 games)
Dean Bouzanis had an average of 21% (4 in 19 games)
The team itself has an average of 20.6% (78 from 378 games since joining the FL)

Goalkeepers are judged on their clean sheets and we learn that Bavs is not the best goalkeeper we've had, Cameron Belford was! However I'd discount him entirely as 5 games played isn't enough to judge anyone on. Alex Cisak takes the crown as 27 games is enough to be judged on and King Kenny takes a creditable 2nd place (more than creditable as he played behind some shocking teams).

The others are neither here nor there but Bavs isn't that far behind them and has played a hell of a lot more games. The team itself has kept 78 clean sheets in all competitions since joining the FL at an average of 20.6%. So Bavs has performed better than the team average and that's good enough for me.

cashman 13-09-2013 07:06
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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1075463)
well as you know I love a good stat, particularly if it gets to prove a point. Unfortunately I couldn't find a stat to use in Bavs defence (pardon the pun).

Cameron Belford had an average of 40% clean sheets (2 in 5)
Alex Cisak had an average of 33% (9 in 27 games)
Kenny Arthur had an average of 28% clean sheets (20 in 71 games)
Paul Rachubka had an average of 26% (6 in 23)
Sean Murdoch had an average of 27% (4 in 15 games)
Ian Dunbavin has an average of 22% (33 in 147 games)
Dean Bouzanis had an average of 21% (4 in 19 games)
The team itself has an average of 20.6% (78 from 378 games since joining the FL)

Goalkeepers are judged on their clean sheets and we learn that Bavs is not the best goalkeeper we've had, Cameron Belford was! However I'd discount him entirely as 5 games played isn't enough to judge anyone on. Alex Cisak takes the crown as 27 games is enough to be judged on and King Kenny takes a creditable 2nd place (more than creditable as he played behind some shocking teams).

The others are neither here nor there but Bavs isn't that far behind them and has played a hell of a lot more games. The team itself has kept 78 clean sheets in all competitions since joining the FL at an average of 20.6%. So Bavs has performed better than the team average and that's good enough for me.
Well only Boozer,who nobody i know rated is worse, is that not a stat? cos thats good enough fer me.:D

Chubbyman 13-09-2013 07:11
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Revived Red

As you quote"why don't you read what I wrote instead of what you think I wrote"

Revived Red 13-09-2013 09:45
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Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1075475)
Revived Red

As you quote"why don't you read what I wrote instead of what you think I wrote"
Not only did I read what you wrote - I actually quoted it!!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

maccawozzagod 13-09-2013 09:51
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1075474)
Well only Boozer,who nobody i know rated is worse, is that not a stat? cos thats good enough fer me.:D
well that's not strictly true neither

Rob Elliot played 10 games with no clean sheets (I haven't used non-league stats)
Premislavver Cashmecheque played 8 games
David Martin played 10 games
Alan Martin played 8 games
Lee Nicholls played 9 games

all bar the scrabble winning named keeper went on to play at a higher level but none of them kept any clean sheets at all whilst here.

Bavs' record isn't too far shabby of the others but he has played considerably more games which brings his stat down - and it is above the team average. Suggesting that he is better than people give him credit for.

But he is a club man and has served us well over the years, often having to sit on the bench for months on end and bide his time.

Bettinelli looks to be the real deal but it has pished me off over the years when he has been overlooked in favour of an on loan keeper who has proved to be no better.

Revived Red 13-09-2013 10:02
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Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1075461)
Maybe you should read a few of Bavs write ups.
No problem. Here goes. Let's start with the first league game of the season; away at Southend.

goalkeeper Ian Dunbavin put in a superb performance with some fine saves

even when the home side did get a chance they found Dunbavin in inspired form

And now the second league game; home against Port Vale

Louis Dodds whose shot from no more than eight yards was superbly turned round the post by Stanley man of the match Ian Dunbavin

But what about that 5 - 0 defeat at Oxford? Surely he was culpable there?

Had it not been for several smart saves from Dunvbavin the score could have been considerably worse

The U’s continued to force several fine saves from the impressive Dunbavin


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Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1075461)
Maybe just maybe a few of you will take your blinkers off when you realise you're not racehorses!
Have you been reading the collected sayings of Eric Cantona?:rolleyes:

Chubbyman 13-09-2013 11:24
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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1075492)
No problem. Here goes. Let's start with the first league game of the season; away at Southend.

goalkeeper Ian Dunbavin put in a superb performance with some fine saves

even when the home side did get a chance they found Dunbavin in inspired form

And now the second league game; home against Port Vale

Louis Dodds whose shot from no more than eight yards was superbly turned round the post by Stanley man of the match Ian Dunbavin

But what about that 5 - 0 defeat at Oxford? Surely he was culpable there?

Had it not been for several smart saves from Dunvbavin the score could have been considerably worse

The U’s continued to force several fine saves from the impressive Dunbavin




Have you been reading the collected sayings of Eric Cantona?:rolleyes:
I don't think so,but we'll have a chat at Hartlepool as I want to be on the same high as you.

Chubbyman 13-09-2013 11:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1075492)
No problem. Here goes. Let's start with the first league game of the season; away at Southend.

goalkeeper Ian Dunbavin put in a superb performance with some fine saves

even when the home side did get a chance they found Dunbavin in inspired form

And now the second league game; home against Port Vale

Louis Dodds whose shot from no more than eight yards was superbly turned round the post by Stanley man of the match Ian Dunbavin

But what about that 5 - 0 defeat at Oxford? Surely he was culpable there?

Had it not been for several smart saves from Dunvbavin the score could have been considerably worse

The U’s continued to force several fine saves from the impressive Dunbavin




Have you been reading the collected sayings of Eric Cantona?:rolleyes:
If I go back through all my old school reports I dare say I might find one good comment eventually!!!!

Revived Red 13-09-2013 12:37
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Just in case Chubbyman has forgotten:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Div3North (Post 1030852)
From the BBC Sports website;

Accrington Stanley goalkeeper Ian Dunbavin will have shoulder surgery on Thursday, which is expected to keep him out for the rest of the season.

Dunbavin, 32, has been an ever-present in League Two this season.

"It's a blow because he's been fantastic this year. I think he's been having the best year of his career," said manager Leam Richardson. :eek:


Good luck for the surgery Ian .............. and hope you're back sooner than we're led to think! You've been fantastic all season, and this is cruel beyond measure ............. :(

accytom101 13-09-2013 15:23
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It's cruel beyond measure, LOL. Just because he's injured it ain't the end of the world. We can just use Bettinelli while we can.

DAV007 13-09-2013 16:13
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[QUOTE=maccawozzagod;1075463]

Goalkeepers are judged on their clean sheets [/QUOTE=macxawozzagod;1075463]

Since when?
Terrible shout

accytom101 13-09-2013 16:20
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Like I said Dunbavin's a good shot stopper....that's it's. Bettinelli can make good saves and he commands his area. FACT...Dunbavin never commands his area well enough. Doesn't matter if your 5 ft 5 or 6 ft 5. PLUS Bettinelli is younger and he has a long career ahead of him. Bavs is 33, may not last much longer.... and he's not gonna be number 1 forever now is he.

KiTChener 13-09-2013 19:55
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[QUOTE=maccawozzagod;1075463]well as you know I love a good stat, particularly if it gets to prove a point. Unfortunately I couldn't find a stat to use in Bavs defence (pardon the pun).

Cameron Belford had an average of 40% clean sheets (2 in 5)
Alex Cisak had an average of 33% (9 in 27 games)
Kenny Arthur had an average of 28% clean sheets (20 in 71 games)
Paul Rachubka had an average of 26% (6 in 23)
Sean Murdoch had an average of 27% (4 in 15 games)
Ian Dunbavin has an average of 22% (33 in 147 games)
Dean Bouzanis had an average of 21% (4 in 19 games)
The team itself has an average of 20.6% (78 from 378 game since joining the FL)

While you're at it , Rob, what about Jamie, (albeit non league), and, one of my favourites, Darren Randolph? Remember the LET headline when he left us? "Randolph the red once reigned here"?

Gerard

Alvin the chipmunk 14-09-2013 17:39
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Dunbavin is a Stanley legend and will be a cult hero for years to come. The penalty save at Morecambe in the 90th minute...single handedly keeping Notts Forest at bay....the Boro game..... yes he may be prone to the odd rick but he has more than proved his worth imo. In terms of £ per performance he must be one of the best. :)

Hero. :)

Don't worry Bavs....after all every team needs a scapegoat. It was Murphy for the last couplle of seasons :rolleyes:

accytom101 14-09-2013 18:37
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Bavs good shot stopper that's it.


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