Paint Pot cup match thread (Carlisle United)
 

Well how about a 1-0 win with a last minute proccy winner ;) ?

Should be a winnable game this, they have just sacked kavanagh as manager.

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I'll settle fer 4-0 :D proccy hat trick.:D

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Depends on what team JB picks,I would have thought fringe players may get a run out

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Teams often do well after a manager is sacked! And the Cumbrians have won the Paint Pot Trophy (in its previous incarnations), twice, and lost it once to the first "golden goal" (in extra time) against Birmingham.
It'll be a good test for both teams, but a win would be just the tonic for Stanley.

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a win could kick off a run of good results

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I think we need a moral boosting win and a good cup run, 2 very important home games coming up we need polnts on the board.

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19 - 0. 18 from Proccy. Lumley on the half volley from a corner in the last minute. Beattie to clap the fans. Hysteria to grip Accrington!!! :)

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"Hysteria to grip Accrington!!!"

Is this someone else JB brought in last night ? :eek:

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Can understand managers giving fringe players a run out, but the bigger picture is that this is the road to Wembley. Forget the FA Cup, JB will probably field the reserves in that as all the big clubs do :)

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A win would breed confidence.

Let's go for it.

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Whats Admission prices tonight? are they gonna bother trying to sell the match?:rolleyes:

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That's exactly what I was going to ask on here, Cashy. Nothing on the fishy site that i can find.

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Be interesting to see how near me crowd forecast is? This is reason i forecast so low.:(

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The prices have been posted on social media. £10 adults , £5 seniors and students, £2 under 16s.

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whats social media when its at home sparkie?:confused: i would have thought the fishy n posters would be the best way to promote it.

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Ta shaker, shame the club didn't put it were most folk can see, to me stuff should be promoted.:rolleyes: assume that link was awhile ago?

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Yes, posted on the 22nd. Agree, it could do with pushing back up the news page and the match information page (here) populating with prices. Just comes down to people power and time available I guess.

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Stanley 2 - 0 Carlisle 0

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2-1 for Stanley

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So comprehensive is the media blather over football transfers (how long before they just do away with the PL matches and just have a league for how much a club spends?) that it's not easy to find any news about the game. But, from the Paint Pot web site, it appears it's 1-1 at half time.
Other HT score that drew my eye was Fleetwood 1 - Morecambe 2.

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Carlisle now 2-1 up, scoring just after restart.
Carver got Stanley's goal.

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I've got the game live on radio Cumbria. Good goal by Carver to open equaliser by Carlisle 3 mins later and now 2 1 to carlisle a few minutes ago.
Mostly Carlisle just now.

Crowd is 800 odd with a couple of hundred from Carlisle

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3 1 Carlisle, the Carlisle commentators think it should never have been given for offside

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what was Buxton booked for?

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I think it was for bringing a Carlisle player down on the edge of the box

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All over 3 1

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1-3 ...............

sounded crap :(

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Great game Stanley 1 - 3 Match Officials

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2 teams that were poor and lacking in confidence and skill not 1 Stanley player stood out for me tonight as I,ve said before our fullbacks woefully lacking in pace defensevly, no leaders on the pitch tonight let,s hope Proccy can address that also worrying signs with ever dwindling home crowds can,t go on with that kind of support. JB has a huge task to lift his young players with 2 big home games coming up.

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I hope Proctor can bring some purpose and know how to our midfield otherwise its going to be a long hard season. Our centre backs played more incisive forward passes than any of the midfield tonight

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Only 536 home fans bothered turning up tonight.

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Officials were a disgrace but so were the 'fans' who were booing the lads & shouting ridiculous insults instead of getting behind the team - I know everyone's entitled to their opinion but that sort of ridicule does no one any good!!

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That second half was utter crap,poor officials cannot excuse being slower to the ball.:(

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We really can,t keep blaming officials they were,nt to blame for an all round poor performance keep playing like that you get beat how ever poor the opposition.

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Very poor tonight and Carlisle were by far the better team.
Our game plan seems to be go long and fight for the second ball,unfortunately they won most of the second balls and played some nice football.
The last three games we have had a settled back four and keeper,but once again we got rinsed (seven goals?).
We need to learn how to defend first and get them clean sheets on board or it will be all uphill.
Lost count of lads out of position and it caused all kinds of problems.
You can't blame individuals as we should defend as a team and be a lot more compact.
Hopefully Proccy will give this as he's very vocal and a leader.
Big game on Saturday and we can't conceed 2+ goals again

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Your ever positive Choirboy reporting here on tonights match v Carlisle.......:alright:
but I am finding it very difficult to take any real positives from tonights performance........:nky:
We started quite well capped by a lovely finish by Carver lobbing the Carlisle keeper from out wide....Carver was one of three players tonight to come out of the match with any real credit.......:)
The other two were Atkinson who was as steady as a rock and Aldred who played well although he was 'beaten' for a header at the far post for one of their goals. (Tom claimed to the Referee, sorry "Numpty Bloke in black", that he was being held down but to no avail).:bingobang
Their third goal possibly ranks as "The worst ever refereeing decision in the history of football".......:cursing::eek::bingobang:blinky::b igglasse:niet::behead::swear8::signwier::signntme: :Banane38:with what looked like the most blatant offside ever! A Carlisle player was jogging back onto the pitch from behind the goal when a weak effort on goal was going gently back to our keeper...knowing that he was miles offside he casually glanced a head at the ball and it went over our keeper into the net. (He could have been booked for it!) The Carlisle fans did NOT cheer or claim a goal and after our keeper picked up the ball and rolled it forward, perhaps a bit too far, for a free kick another Carlisle player seemed to roll the ball back again to our keeper in acceptance that a free kick would be given for offside! Unbelievably the linesman did not flag, the referee absconded any responsibilty for making a decision. In spite of impassioned protests from several of our team the goal was allowed to stand!!!!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::ma d::mad::mad::mad::mad:
It is bad enough having to play with about seven players on our side but against thirteen the task was simply too much!
Hope that Procky can make a difference.
Perhaps Hunt or Deano could go at right back , pushing Buxton further upfield with Liddle back in at left back. Pierro with Procky in midfield. Gray and Carver up front.....??????
Also, Tom Aldred pushed up front for the last ten or twelve minutes and perhaps he clould do a job there.......who knows?
Anyway.....off to bed now for more nightmares but I will endeavour to wake up tomorrow as positive as ever....
ON STANLEY ON!:alright::theband:

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Yes we can. However, your point about the performance is also correct. I fear for Stanley on Saturday. Thought we started brightly and played some decent football on the deck, however, players must learn they are not good enough to do fancy footwork to get passed a defender, pass the ball! Seemed after we scored, they sat on the lead for 3 minutes until Carlisle scored then went to pot until the last 10 minutes of the 2nd half. Why oh why did we not use all 3 subs? And the players must learn that the officials (however poor they may be) must not be argued with, they won't change there minds which is why it seems we are playing against 14 at the moment.

I also fear for the numbers in the crowd on Saturday. If as has been said only less than 550 home supporters turned up tonight, and we keep serving up the rubbish we saw tonight, then heaven help us.

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Third goal was interesting!,my first reaction was to look at the linesman as he was near us and windass was near him( very close to the by-line,)I can only presume he thought he was playing the goal score on-side ,weird goal !!!

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Shambles. Balance, structure, any sniff of a game plan all absent this evening.

Can't bring myself to pick apart the desperate inadequacies of our flanks in both attack and defence (which continue to leave us overrun and stretched from central areas). Will leave a positive comment for Marcus Carver who made a top finish his own and worked ever so hard against an experienced centre half in O'Hanlon.

Back four of Hunt, Aldred, Atkinson and Winnard for Tranmere please. Joyce and Procter holding. Shay, Mingoia and Hatfield rotating. Gray up top.

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I agree Shaker......Sounds better to me.

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Midfield is the main problem and we need to learn how to defend set pieces and corners. The latter can be worked on in training, James needs to select the right players in midfield....and he hasn't done it yet! Shaker's suggestion sounds worth a go on Satueday, please take note Mr Beattie. and Shaker won't say I told you so............

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Why is no one asking the question is Beattie up to the job?

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Maybe because no-one wants to deprive you of the pleasure of asking that question - we all knew you would at some point, it was just a matter of time :rolleyes:

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Very disappointing once again. For the third consecutive game in a row, we have been in a winning position but have failed to go on and close out the result.

It was there for all to see that we started the game well and deservedly took the lead through a great Carver goal (who was fantastic tonight by the way) but having equalized, Carlisle took control of the game and deservedly won in the end. Yes the third goal was farcical (just when you think the officials can't get any worse...), but nonetheless we didn't do enough to win the game and would have lost 2-1 anyway.

Bowerman was completely ineffective; why Beattie took so long to make a change is beyond me, especially after conceding so early in the second half. It was clear to see the game was going stale, yet our manager just sat on the wall and made his changes too late-not for the first time. The team looked worryingly disjointed and short on attacking ideas for large parts of the second half.

As people have already said, the fullback areas and central midfield are our main areas of concern; we looked vulnerable again tonight when Carlisle came forward. Hopefully the return of Dr Procter will go some way to addressing the issues in the centre; his midfield partnership with Joyce was a rock during the play off season and can hopefully be replicated somewhat.

Mustoe doesn't look ready to me yet for league 2 football. If fit, I would like to see Liddle given a start at left back, or alternatively Deano. Again, we were again exposed in the right back area with Buxton caught out of position; I would like to see Nicky Hunt return his best role at right back.

Buxton is much more effective further up the pitch. Unlike many of the players in our current squad, he has the confidence and the ability to run with the ball and take his man on. Personally, I would like to see him given a more advanced role on the right at the expense of Naismith, the consistently inconsistent man. He was poor again tonight, greedy both in possession and from set pieces.

My Saturday team would be:

Lumley
Hunt Alred Atkinson Liddle
Procter Joyce
Buxton Hatfield Mingoia
Carver

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I thought he answered that last season..........what's wrong are John and Jimmy not happy in Sligo?

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frustration at the results so far this season yes but putting the blame on JB & the players is not deserved, I think most of us would agree that the players we have are not the best in this division but are probably the best we can attract, with the budget we have to work with, I watch these lads put in a tremendous effort for us each week, yes I’m disappointed by the results but not by their efforts,

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True but organisation and tactical nouse cost nothing. For example at Bury. 4 minutes of stoppage time and we get a corner in the SEVENTH. Why can't the keeper go up?

Also why can't we put a man on the posts at corners? You're told at school "front post, back post, mark a man".

Regardless of Beatties ability does anybody else think him not clapping the fans is disgusting? Its hundreds of pounds following Stanley all over. Why can't he acknowledge the few fans we have? Just look at Lutons players and staff at our place.

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I personally dont think its disgusting,i go to watch a match not to be applauded fer doing summat i love.:confused: most managers in me many years of following footy, don't.

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If it's not the manager and players fault for the poor performances then who's fault is it?

I don't understand your logic.

If the players we currently have are not good enough, then who's fault is it we signed them? Who's fault is it we gave them 2 year contracts? Are we a footballing charity now taking in sub standard players?

Every single result is the players and managers fault be it good or bad.
Last season JB by the admission of our chairman had a big budget and wasted it.

This mentality of don't question the manager is dangerous, you would think it was USSR not Accrington; Don't question the leader!

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Unless the leader is Professor Coleman, Davo?
P.S. Carlisle are looking for a new manager if you're available.

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Watched the goals and their goal wasn't Offside,as I mentioned previously Windass was stood on the bye line !,so it was a courageous call by the liner,would have been easy to put his flag up.

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whether or not Windass was close to the line is irrelevant, Painter was beyond the by-line when the ball was headed down, and came back onto the pitch to score, according to JB's after match interview the linesman informed him that the no. 9 was playing painter on-side which is very strange because at the time Grey was in his suit sitting in the stand

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iPuoQHl-Ra0

About 3minutes40secs in.

It looks like it was a perfectly legitimate goal after all.

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That seems to be correct. Does anyone know the exact rule which covers that situation?

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Looked to me from the video that the Carlisle player hadn't gone over the by-line, that the ball came to him off the Stanley keeper, and at least one Stanley player (Windass?), who appeared to have stopped moving (taken a knock?) in the far corner, was playing him on-side as well.
1-2, 1-3 it was a defeat all the same.
If it's any consolation (not much, I agree) Carlisle hold the record of six appearances in finals of the Football League Trophy, so know what they are doing in the competition.

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Looks that way to me. Not sure about stopped moving because of a knock though, there was very little movement all night :rolleyes:

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One of the worst sides in the football league and they come away from home on a Tuesday night and tear us apart in the second half. I've lost it with James Beattie for a few that can be bothered turning up for away games his bad tactics also spread to away games too! Home against Luton brings off a striker to bring on a midfielder in the 80th minute to settle for a draw at home. Bury also springs to mind regarding them having a man sent off in the 70th minute and we are loosing so what does he do, yes he brings an inexperienced midfielder on and we have no effect in the last 20 and end up loosing the game. Against Carlisle its the same old story , for a change he starts with carver who's full of enthusiasm and running unlike the others and then we're chasing the game once again and he brings on a midfielder.....

The problem with beattie is , yes were going to loose a lot of our away games but the home games is were going down is settled! The fans are not with him , most of the players look like their not and the football he has them playing is predictable and just isn't obviously working. How many more games does it take for fans and directors to see this. Bad last season and started this season even worse than the last. No other club would let this happen and that's the difference between our tinpotness and it will end up kicking us in the teeth if the club and fans would like to stay in the football league. I've lost patience with the man , with watching Coleman , Cook and even Richardson we at least saw the lads put the effort in for the badge they were on their shirts and at least grinded out results, with this team their is no flare , no grinding of results and no passion. I also dont like his arrogance , he seems to love himself and is deluded to the results his team is producing. He seems to be a man that knows the financial levels of the club which is obvious for anyone but he shouldn't be taking about it , that's for the directors not him.

At the end of the day , Dav might get slagged off for his adoring love of John Coleman but Beattie has now more resources Coley ever had, a better pitch by far, better budget and also better facilities I.E changing rooms etc. YET coley got his team competing with other teams , other teams feared us , referees and linesmans hated us and we all knew we'd get a full blooded performance from the reds and some pride shown but now teams turn up at the crown knowing they'll get an easy game and a great chance to grab some points and with James Beattie struggling to make it even to the touchline the refs and linos sent exactly worried about giving decisions.

He isn't right for the club , not experienced managerial enough and it really does show. Ambassador Yes, Manager NO.

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To some extent a agree with a number of points made above. I do feel that Beatties reputation has just as many negatives as it does positives, but overall I think we will find the right balance. To travel 400-500 round trip to watch our beloved Stanley - being acknowledged for the investment of time, money and loyalty means a lot to a football fan. To see a Manager shoot straight down the tunnel regardless of the result is not the 'Fan' way to do it! When Luton came here and took a point, the manager rounded all his players together and made them address every section of away support. This mutual recognition needs to happen!


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Over and Out.

ON STANLEY ON

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Good post, Ash, and much to agree with.
However, just one thought about those few who berate Mr.Beattie for, as they see it, not applauding the fans.
I generally only get to away games in the soft south but, at Cheltenham for instance, the manager came over to the away end during the warm up and was certainly not ignoring anyone.
You say that it was the Luton manager that rounded up his players and made them salute their fans.
Again my experience of Stanley away games is that the manager never needs to make his squad do that; maybe it's because he's already instilled in his players the importance of doing so. And, maybe, just maybe, he believes that it's the players who deserve the fans applause, instead of him.

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I travel over 300 mile round trip for a home game and I've done a few this season with more booked. I've done away games that have been up to 1200 mile round trips at plymouth and will be doinng Stevenage soon which is 900 miles round trip. A home game means leaving the house at 7.35 and getting home at 00.30 the next day but do I need any one to applaud/salute me? Do I nowt. I do it for the love of the Stanley, I do it because the club need us, i do it because if we don't no other ****** will and I do it because I can.

Yes it's good to be recognised but that is the least of my worries. We should be proud that we have a team to follow in the league and that should be thanks enough.

I remember James applauding us at Leeds but home games, come the final whistle, it's time for the sports bar.

My support is unconditional but that won't stop me complaining when I feel like it and people may not agree but we all have that right.

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I think you got your answer today,even though it was already answered last season ........Maybe you'll keep it zipped now and stop the Bull Sh*t spewing out !!!!

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Yeh got more chance of being struck by lightening mate.

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Classic chubbyman and cashman,
Say nothing when the team serve up rubbish, shout down other fans when they question the manager, and as usual make daft statements when the team finally win.

Like clockwork!

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Hook Line and Sinker....I hope i've enough breaking strain !!!!!!

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Learn to read half wit.:rolleyes:

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Fans should always be entitled to question the manager, particularly if the results and performances are not good enough.

No one has called for Beattie to be sacked this season, but some fans with open minds are questioning why the tactics, team selection, personnel and substitutions remain primitive.

We have the first win of the season under our belts, let's hope win number 2 doesn't take 6 league games to achieve.

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Fans should always read previous posts also, yeh said say nothing when team serve up rubbish, once again showing yer I.Q.

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Don't be too hard on him Cashy, its people like DAVO that make the rest of us seem intelligent.

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:alright::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: Its funny though, how when yeh nail him,he always reads it n logs off. pmsl.

Re: Paint Pot cup match thread (Carlisle United)
 

Please demonstrate 'nail him'?

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Already did wi post 66, difficult to grasp??:D

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Dav007 quote
Last season JB by the admission of our chairman had a big budget and wasted it.


Can you provide suitable evidence for this possibly slanderous statement?

Re: Paint Pot cup match thread (Carlisle United)
 

Yep, quote from around Sept/Oct in the accy observer last season from Peter Marsden.

Do your research

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Haha, I'm sure you did.

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Didn't we used to have a Scouse manager who never made a substitution until after the 4th official had raised the 'minutes added on' board. What was his name now?:rolleyes:

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Three promotions, cup glory, multiple trophies and a play-off berth would suggest our longest serving and most successful ever manager was ultimately justified in his substitutions. :D:);)

Success on the pitch shuts everybody up.

And if you disagreed he would always be around happy to discuss it with you.

Whether a fan of Beattie or not...the Coley bashing is laughable. Have a look around Droylslden and Frickely for God's sake.

Any manager who goes on a long winless run needs to expect scrutiny of his tactics and selections. You take the plaudits when it goes well so its a double edged sword.

I have seen enough in the last 3 games to know we will be okay if we can shore up at the back.

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I reckon if we went on a run like Arsenal did a few years back yeh wouldn't shut Davo up.:D

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Quote:Originally Posted by cashman http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...s/viewpost.gif
That second half was utter crap,poor officials cannot excuse being slower to the ball.

Originally Posted by cashman http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...s/viewpost.gif
That second half was utter crap,poor officials cannot excuse being slower to the ball.:(

Quote:Originally Posted by DAV007 http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...s/viewpost.gif
Classic chubbyman and cashman,
Say nothing when the team serve up rubbish, shout down other fans when they question the manager, and as usual make daft statements when the team finally win.

Like clockwork!

Originally Posted by DAV007 http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...s/viewpost.gif
Classic chubbyman and cashman,
Say nothing when the team serve up rubbish, shout down other fans when they question the manager, and as usual make daft statements when the team finally win.

Like clockwork!

Learn to read half wit.:rolleyes:


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