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Ainsworth was at Yeovil on Tuesday, so can we expect his players to also lunge at and harry Stanley to disrupt their game? If so, it may be interesting to see if a 'premier league' ref makes a difference to the outcome this time.
Will Jacobson and Murphy be on their game?
Even more importantly, will Mr.Murphy Snr remember to stand on the Coppice end?

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What concerned me a bit about this ref, Has he been demoted fer being crap or what?:confused: Cos we've sure had some real clowns this season.

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for the second match running I can't log on to Dan's comm. because demand exceeds capacity set by the host. Anyone else with the same problem ? - will only be around to catch the second half but looking like auntie beeb will have to do.

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I have the same problem too.

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me too, surely there can't be that many on luckily got radio commentary, unluckily we're getting battered!

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Accy Stanley Twitter has some text comm, but also says no text comm on fishy site today hence the message...

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https://mobile.twitter.com/ASFCofficial for the twitter comm

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1-1 Maguire!

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Good point against the league leaders and hot shots. Some bold changes by Professor Coleman. Well done to all, including the 1,100+ true Stanley fans.

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Good point imho, against the best side ive seen at the crown this season, First half Wycombe mollered us, dunno what was said at half time, but a different Stanley came out second half, Reckon the Wycombe fans left happy with a point, Great credit to the lads.:)

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According to the Beeb, he's been injured since his last game - last season's FA Cup final! Hope he liked the officials' changing room .......:D

Good result the way Wycombe are going this season :)

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Agree with that Cashy, though I can't believe you haven't commented on the ref., which is unlike you! I never do so but that ex Premier reject was the worst I've seen for a while. He let all their rugby tackles go but booked Jonno for giving as good as he was getting for the same thing, and booked our players for straightforward strong ball winning tackles. Aldred and Atkinson were immense again. But for their goalie pulling off a couple of stunning saves late on we would have had the 3 points.

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It was just the norm, the liner on cowshed was even worse.;) I'm convinced our crap facilities contribute in some way,to these decisions by officials.

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Good game today in difficult conditions 5 changes to any team is hard to take and it showed first half against a very well organized team unit, 2nd half we got into our stride and could have
won it but I,ll take a point special mention to Luke Simpson stepped in and 2 half had an excellent game and produced a marvellous save to keep us in it.

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With games coming thick n fast oer xmas, i'm happy we got such a good squad this season.:)

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A special mention for Kal Naismith,he was tremendous today ,chased ,harried and his free kicks and corners were sublime .

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The free kicks in particular were first class. The wycombe No2 deserves a mention, big strong lad n like lightening. had Kal beat fer pace n hes a quick lad, very good defender, impressed me,

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Shows how far we have come recently when I am disappointed with a draw against the league leaders who have a tremendous away record.
I thought after ten minutes,was the weather affecting the game as Wycombe were dominating second balls and pressing us with ease,although in reality they only had one shot on target in the first half and scored a worldy.
The weather did effect the game IMO as we were fantastic in the second half and really should have won 4-1,how their keeper kept out two of the attempts is a mystery.
We knew how Wycombe have been playing 4-1-3-2 so our full backs had to tuck in,but they had two class fullbacks and wingers to spread the play two.
We really had to work hard to get out to them and that battle was worth the entrance money alone.
For me Atkinson was superb,not only in contact areas but kept his position and shape.
First half we did miss the attacking focal point,but I am nitpicking now,the second half performance as good as anything in recent weeks,despite mid week game/injuries/illnesses etc..they deserve a pat on the back :)

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If the officials had been up to scratch we'd have won.

Their goal had a blatant offside in the build up.

One of their defenders made a world class diving save which both the ref and liner managed to miss.

Their CB threw himself to the floor when put under pressure and should have got a second yellow for it.

Throw in a few unbelievable saves from their keeper and it just wasn't our day.

Well played Stanley - was expecting a thrashing and came away having done enough to win it.

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Well my first two pence worth in a few weeks.......

Said I would take a draw before a ball was kicked and that is what we got.

As others have said...... The officials really where dreadful in every way. Some of the bookings where ridiculous. Jacobsen was acting like a complete idiot all game, which was quite annoying considering what we did for him.

As for the team, was rather surprised to see the golden boy dropped, his introduction as a sub was laughable. But thought we played quite well in the second 45 as a whole. O Sullivan looks the real deal , such a shame his loan is up. Fingers crossed he is the first man Coley gets back!

A nice solid performance by the rest, Hunt looked a little short of match fitness which was no surprise. Mccarten looks to have a new lease of life under Coley which is great to see.

I must also mention Simpson in goal, who I thought in the circumstances did pretty well today. It can't be easy knowing that your boss doesn't rate you, but to perform like he did today after weeks and weeks on the bench. Let's not forget he was our best player for the first 5 games of the season. He obviously has the talent, so well done lad.

All aboard the train .... oh wait....... car to York !

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at least Murph didn't get to score in 93rd minute!!

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Strange Windass was superb in the second half he played at Yeovil and today not even on the bench and he's not injured..... Strange man Super Johnny Coleman!!!

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To be honest thought he was pretty anonymous.

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Murphy ???????????????????????????

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Perhaps bringing Crooks on means Huddersfield pay his wages?

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Have discussed with Angeb and see the only reason for his inclusion has to be financial as he has to be one of the worst players to wear the red shirt for a very very long time:mad:

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Maybe so but no-one can blame the lad for his inclusion, & to the idiots who boo' ed loudly when the lad's name was read out as a sub - hang your heads in shame!! Whoever is named in the squad deserves the full support of the fans!

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Thought we dealt with Murphys threat really well with Proccy being switched on every time he looked to make his late runs.
Keeper did ok,although his style of staying deep is not my cup of tea,he is obviously comfortable playing that way and keepers like Casper schmicel adopt the same principle,so who am I to doubt it as he's a good shot stopper !!
For me though a deep starting position drags the defenders deeper as they are reluctant to give space to run into.
Saying that,Tom and Rob held a high line in the first half which was pleasing to See

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I totally agree with you we are Stanley and whoever wears the shirt should be supported we are not one of these tourist premier league clubs we are who we are and that makes me so proud ... A unique football club!

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A fair report:-

Wycombe Wanderers - Blues bank another point at Stanley

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If he'd been named in the starting eleven the boos would've been far louder! Thankfully he wasn't,for his sake and ours.

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Certainly don't agree with booing our own players, but for his sake and ours he must be sent back sooner rather than later.

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Have to sit on the fence with this one Smudgie.
We don't see the lad in training and Coley is no fool,so he must have something about him,it's playing him CF that people are judging him and it's done him no favours.
It's all about the team and results,not individuals,so you have to trust Coleys judgement.

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Sounds like you're saying that it's ok to boo our own players? Everyone has their opinions but what good does it do anyone to get on the lad's back & boo when his names read out

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I have never been one to sit on the fence n disagree with yer post., the reason we aint playing Man U, and having a well needed bumper payday is Colemans Judgement, simple as.

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Still staying on my fence Cashy !!
Would we have give them a better game with different players ?
Do we as fans know who was fit/under the weather/carrying knocks?
Always been a believer in playing lads who perform in training,so it's down to them to shine.
They are all good players,it's who deals with the pressure best.
If we would have dropped Crooke and played Carver/Grey up top,would we been guaranteed to win ?,because that's the only option I could see

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A better game in the first Yeovil match Long John Silver would have scored that un, and in the replay I would probably have scored it, I have always believed in playing players in the correct position,unless injuries dictate otherwise, Injuries were definately NOT the case this young lad was played in wrong position, (A place he'd never played) Yer excuses fer this fall flat in my eyes.

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Daft question. Of course there would be no guarantees. but it would have given us more chance of hitting the net. Gray must be pretty peed off seeing the lump brought on again yesterday. I still think we should have put big Tom up front in the replay as a one off in such a mega game. He nearly scored yesterday with his foray upfield. showing skills which the Yorkshire import can only dream of. Of the loanees I only rate Jonno above what we already have in our squad, and hope Lids and Piero are back in the 11 on Boxing day.

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On the subject of booing and unnecessary disapproval. I don't understand the minority who seen fit to give Murphy grief when he was subbed. I understand banter with ex staff/players but this felt beyond that. Murphy like many other ex players/coaches did his best for our club whilst with us and I am sure will always have a place for Stanley in his heart.

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If Murphy was booed that's outrageous.

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Its simple to me no lad should be boo-ed Murphy or Crooks, who plays fer us or has played, yeh will never understand mate, cos yeh cant explain rank stupidity.;)

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Very poor "highlights". Not showing why keeper Ingham was their M.O.M. 1 .04.00 in.

BBC iPlayer - The Football League Show - 2014/2015: 20/12/2014

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I for one shook his hand at full time,as he played a massive part in keeping this club in the league.
I also clapped him off when subbed ---- for not scoring ! :)

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If It went on what happens in training...Piero and Lids wouldn't have been out for weeks and Windass would be first on the team sheet along with Piero.No Coley got it wrong as Crookes 4 performances have shown and anyone who does think we would have beat Yeovil first time with any other set up must be mad.

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Went yesterday with my Daughter both enjoyed the game and Stanley were unlucky not to have won really. Some things going on before and during the game and even sweets on the way out 😀, hopefully be back again soon.

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Murphy wasn't booed in the Clayton End....he got a great round of applause before kick off.

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Now that's a different perspective.
Not witnessed any sessions,but had reports on the full scale matches played behind closed doors.
I have said before they are all good players,so it's about opinions on what players will do the job required against different opposition every week.
Looking at our position ( four points from play offs) coming into the Xmas period,I suggest we have made more "better" ones than "poor" ones.
It's sometimes not who's the best player,but who will do the job required of them.
The players you mentioned are all quality players who will bring something to the team.

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Its the poor ones consistently that "All" the people i speak too, get annoyed with, its the same principle as "Good News Don't Sell Papers":rolleyes:

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Are you Dr. Pangloss in disguise? I.e, "Everything is for the best in the best of all possible worlds"?

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Glad to hear it, wouldn't have expected anything else from Stanley fans.

P.S. Is Dr.Pangloss still playing on the wing for Panathenaikos?

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Well, it's a happier approach than assuming every point Stanley gain, and their top-half placing, must be by accident, because the manager's clearly useless so can't take any credit .... :D

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Way above my head that Redraine :)

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:rolleyes:Di !..Didn't everyone agree in a thread of a fortnight or so ago that no TRUE fan of Accrington Stanley would ever resort to booing the Reds or any of our players whatever the situation ?.
What's more it seemed to be everyone's opinion that this offensive form of behaviour negates the solidarity between the team and their fans which everyone looks for in the club !.

So you don't need to read between the lines to determine what my opinion is of anyone who allows an opinion which they have formed to cause them to resort to such ill-humoured behaviour !.

PS...And didn't I hear some angelic voices asking for ' good will to all men ' ?.

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What he really means, and putting it quite basic terms is.......the world is perfect and all evil in it is simply the means to a greater good !. same as 4-4-2-1 or 4-3-3-1 ?.

As Aleksandr would say........' Simple' tchik !!....

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Oi! I hope you aren't insinuating that I don't get behind the team. Up until recently, when I haven't had as much puff as I used to have, nobody could be more vocal in support the whole team. In fact, if all supporters did the same the Crown would really be the intimidating place for the opposition that Coley has always yearned for. And, no, I don't boo!

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No, not for a minute, and sorry if you thought I was. You suggested F19's glasses are rose-tinted - well that's my default setting too, so I was simply supporting his view that just possibly JC has half an idea what he's doing, as I'm getting tee'd off at the constant knocking.

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Some interesting posts after this game.

On the subject of booing i was in the main stand and did hear some.shouts of derision when Crooks was waiting to come on but they were directed at Coleman rather than Crooks. Also Murphy got a good round of applause when he came off.

I do think Coleman's team selections and substitutions have cost us in the last few games. Yesterday a prime example: Carver started Tuesday and Windass came on as sub, both left out completely yesterday in favour of players who Coleman hasn't played for weeks. I thought our 'front four' were really poor for much of the game, McCarten especially for me is like a broken clock - does something right twice a day! The 4 of them looked knackered after an hour, but Coleman leaves it until a couple of minutes to go until he brings on Crooks. Why not Mingoia who apart from Tuesday has been on fire. Why not the forgotten man Gray who is still top scorer?

Obviously Coleman is an experienced manager but personally I think the last few weeks have exposed the tactical weaknesses and stubborness that explain why after nearly 20 years in management hes reached the heady heights of mid-table League 2!!

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But aren't these also the tactical strengths and stubbornness that have dragged a Unibond club to the heady heights of mid-table League 2?? :D

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Thats beyond dispute by anyone, also a fact is yeh can reach yer limits, or only go so far?

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The 'limits' of mid table - leaning towards playoffs are better than Cook, Lean or Beatts achieved.

I'm happy with survival every year - with Coley we get entertainment to boot ... Plus the flirtation with the playoff spots.

He definitely has his flaws but as we say with many of the men wearing Stanley shirts - if they didn't have their flaws they wouldn't be at Accy.

Happiest I've been as a Stanley fan for a while :-)

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I wish everybody a happy Xmas and new year and hope to meet up with the usual suspects at the future games.
I have decided not to carry on posting on this forum as I believe it's not football based anymore and there are many hidden agendas.
I will discuss football all day,but some stuff Is not even banter and it's not my cup of tea.
I will sign off with my motto KTF as the team is fighting way above its weight,long may it continue !!!

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And I send my kindest thoughts to you and all you love for this season of goodwill !...and of course for a healthy and successful 2015 !.
Your second paragraph saddens me enormously and I really hope you might consider reversing your decision.
I for one, who knows so little about our game and am not afraid to admit it !, do tend to go on in a cynical fashion along inappropriate pathways for most of the time, hoping that my friends on the Forum will allow and forgive my indulgences.
This I put down to my 'going down slow' in advancing years whilst believing that someone
might still be interested in the rubbish I come up with !.
If my skewed ramblings have contributed to your decision then I can only apologise for this and will try to take a more sensible line in the future. ....

Take care and do have a great Christmas !.......KTF.

AA.

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I too am very sad about the second line of Football 19's post. I have always enjoyed your insights into the game. We will always have different opinions on what goes on on the pitch and the decisions taken by management but at the end of the day we want to see Stanley succeed. I hope you will reconsider at some point and hope you have a great Christmas topped off with 3 points at York.

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Thank the Lord!

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First wish all the best to you n yours football19, The rest leaves me very disappointed. Football is, and always has been a very emotive sport, on all forums i look at,fans discuss all aspects of their club, which as paying customers i think they are entitled too. Theres quite a few things i disagree with on this forum, and know fer sure quite a few that disagree wi me, so what? they pay there money there entitled to say what they feel.End of the day they are all Stanley fans. K.T.F. No matter who disagrees wi me, I will never run away,also will never really fall out wi any Stanley Fan, Unless of course they snot me.:D

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That's the spirit ... not :mad:

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Most important feature on any forum is the Ignore button i.e. if you don't like a posting or a particular poster skip over it/them and just take out the bits that interest you.

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...and why is Football 19's departure such a reason for rejoicing? Because he's had the temerity to disagree with your opinions? Your attitude stinks. :mad:

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Behave mate, you are one of the most sensible and knowledgeable people to post on here.

Do not let other peoples' 'opinions' put you off. After all the one thing you always say to me when we are discussing footy at games is, "it's all about opinions!"

Who is going to talk about 4-2-3-1 and 4-4-2????? ;)

All the best and KTF :)

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See if I care about what you think with regards my attitude.:alright:

I'll be there come rain or shine on the Clayton end and away games for many years to come like it or not, supporting my team.

What I wont be doing is actively going out of my way to disagree with EVERYTHING you post on here, which is what he has done for the last 3 years.

Roll on York away.

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Aw, Football 19 ! As far as I know we have not met unless chatted anonymously at a ground down south, but I do recognise that you have experience and an opinion to be valued. Sure, there is a percentage of posts on here that are, shall we say, a bit 'young'. The serial offenders' posts I just bypass without taking notice and have to say that I also would count it a loss not to have your reflections to look forward to after each match. The happiest of Christmas celebrations to you and yours - but please reconsider denying the majority the pleasure of your posts.

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Please do reconsider Football19. All we have to do is just ignore the less intelligent stuff posted. You have too much to offer and to deny the rest of us your opinions and ideas would be a big loss and a sad loss too....
Please reconsider.

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Good grief, Bob. I would be very happy to have him back with his input to the forum, but surely we shouldn't need to grovel!

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You hugely overestimate your own importance. You really think Football19 has been tracking your posts in order to deliberately disagree with you? It seems to me that he's just been coming on here and expressing his opinion which, whether or not I've agreed with him, I've often found interesting. Still, he hasn't been supporting Stanley as long as you (and as you say he'd do well to remember that), so I suppose his opinions aren't as valid. :rolleyes:

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Well I have not as long as you, so..... ;) :) :)

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Given the title of this thread, it may appear to some that this bickering is merely making F19's point for him.
Enough already, York are up next.

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Same old haters who can't help themselves.

We get a point against the team at the top of the league, we take a league 1 team to a replay, and instead of praising the progress their hatred boils over and instead they dream of beattie being back in charge and his dull long hoof ball.

Shame on you.

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Football 19 a true Stanley fan, unlike a few others who said they wouldn't go anymore if Coleman was put in charge.

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OMG I have found myself agreeing with Dav, and a drink hasn,t passed my lips, Yet. :eek::o

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So who were they?:confused:

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Don't waste your time asking Cashy. He's just paranoid!

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You talking about me Redraine ? You sure you're not ? I know it's what you're thinking though.................. :D

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I would have thought "Deluded" meself? one who keeps making statements, then vanishes when asked to produce facts or evidence.

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Little late on this one, so hope you're reading F19. I'd ask you to reconsider - the tenet of this forum is that all opinions and views should be welcome and I for one find your posts insightful as you always offer a different perspective.

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Oh, do shut up!!
I'm considering using that 'ignore' button.

But, still, a merry Christmas and prosperous New Year to you & yours!

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Not grovelling Mike. I am just being polite as I would if it were you or Cashman or Smudgie or even Dav007 who were retiring from commenting on the forum.
Certainly not grovelling........simply don't need to do that!
Politely yours .........Choirboy:hothothot