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Pitch inspection scheduled for 8:30 AM nice to have one before 2:30
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we will win comfortably , but it would help an awful lot if we played Carver or Bowerman up front and dropped Mcguire who was poor on Tuesday. Northampton Town FC Stats Page Up until their recent run of form, they had struggled. Their fans put the up turn in form down to some useful signings during the January transfer window. A word of caution to Mr.T It looks like the Northampton fans are planning on taking advantage of the flexi ticket deal. Accrington |
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Are we expecting snow tonight/tommorrow in Accy?
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Seriously though it's good that it's 8.30 and not later as I can wait to see the result before heading off. It just cuts down on bevvy time when I get there. |
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Not very complimentary comments on the Cobblers message board - please lord let the game go ahead & we send them home with their tails between their legs ;)
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Tomorrows match is MASSIVE for us!:thepint:
We need to get the winning habit back in order to get 3 more points so that we can at least maintain or increase the distance between ourseleves and those at or near the bottom. The second half on Tuesday v Bury was much more positive and just lacked the 'Striker's finishing touch'.:singer::swear8: I hope that we start with a 'Centre Forward' tomorrow. I would seriously consider playing Tom Aldred up front if he is 'fit' to play thus leaving the central defence as it was on tuesday. Tom would cause problems in tha air for The Cobblers and would certainly put the wind up 'em!:w00t: Keep the Faith and let's all get behind the Team.:theband: ON STANLKEY ON:wave8::signbeer: |
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I know that FA19 will hold his hands up in consternation when I suggest that Kal Naismith
is relegated to the bench, John Maguire plays a winger role, and George Bowerman, who if I remember rightly handles dodgy surfaces quite well, is given a start in the Centre-Striker position . But what do I know about team-selection ?. I just hope that my fears of the Reds slipping into a losing habit are unfounded !. |
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Hope not Yonmon,think Naismiths done ok recently.
Would rest Sean and play Grey,but what do I know :) |
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1-4 and still 10 + to go :( :( Wished I'ld stayed in bed....
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1-5 wtf?????????????????????
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Not good and I'm still watching it live
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Yonmon's fears appear to be coming true. It' looks like another fight for league survival over the next three months. And the last three games (Hartlepool then Dagenham away, and Mansfield at home) suggest it could be a fight to the bitter end.
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Back to the drawing board methinks
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Totally and utterly abject. Coleman has not got a clue. Why take of Carver for Gray in the 2nd half against 10 men. Why not let Carver and Gray play together and take of the ineffective Naismith? 5th goal was clearly offside but Macey must be to blame for numbers 3 and 4. Totally indecisive. Number 5 was a mile offside but what is the difference. We were beaten today by a team who played with 11 men even when they had gone to 10 against a team who in truth were at 6's and 7's.
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There is something intrinsically wrong at our wonderful football club and it needs to be sorted sooner rather than later or we will be definitely be in a serious scrap come April and looking at forthcoming fixtures I can't see where the points will come from. We can't defend we can't score where does that leave you as a team! This has been the lowest point for many a year...there is no option for me and Ange but to have a few jars!
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Total, abject humiliation. Can't think of anything positive to say. Only Buxton, Piero and Conneally came out of that with any credit. MacGuire? - why, oh why Coley?
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I am afraid it is time to allow the manager to move on. Today's performance was nothing short of abysmal. We know we can play much better than this, It was noticeable with Tom Aldred missing. we looked like a team who have never played together. Tactilely we were so naive it was deeply worrying. We need to act quickly.
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Where on earth do we go from here? Coleman obviously hasn't endeared himself to the Stanley fans nor the general public on his return and gates are tumbling and will continue to do so with current form. I can see that dreaded less than 1000 gate for a league game coming up as why would the non season ticket holder pay £20 plus extras to watch that drivel. Bad day, angry and fed up should Coleman really have been invited back?
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I am sorry but our keeper had a nightmare today.
From the first punt down field ,were his starting position was on his line,we were in trouble.he never keep for anything,and his head just went. He even dove over the penalty !! I mentioned it last week to Cashy and chubbyman,and my fears come true today. Even their fans got sick of the "dodgy keeper" song and replaced it with " we owe you a pint" chant !! Defensively we were all over the show,and I disagree about Bucko,he's just not a defender (good footballer tho) He got skinned for the first,gave away a penalty for the second and got caught in possession for the third or fourth. They bombarded with balls down the middle and we just struggled to contain them. The fourth and fifth goals were just like a pub team defending,not worthy of a comment. Positives --------urrrrm,Piero never give up,grey at least ran the channels and held the ball up Not a lot more |
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We were out muscled by a bigger stronger,older team, not enough ummp in our side, agree completely about Kal he was abysmal first half and to me deserved substituting, To replace Carver after so short a time, says it all to me,:mad: should have been left on with Gray alongside. The second half our keeper had a MARE, the defending was like watching a pub team against 10 men fer chrissake, Only thing we can take outa this, if we hadn't conceded 5, we would have won 1-0.:D No good calling fer the managers head, we cant afford it.:(
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A disgrace and im not talking about the team im not a happy bunny ��
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Dear Chubbyman,
I'm sorry I couldn't join you today, I had to sort out some other stuff and couldn't make it to the game. Looks like I missed a classic! The keeper Beattie got in from QPR was not very good, some of our fans said we should stick with him, others said get rid. It seems the situation with Macey is similar if not worse, do we stick with him or send him back to Arsenal ? We won't go down with Coleman in charge, he will turn it round. Just like Beatties 12 games without a league win, 4 games without a win is bad but not a disaster. Still lots of points to play for and lots of potential in the squad. Let's stick together and get behind the club. |
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Send back or not Davo, i would start with Dawber next week fer certain. He can't do any worse n was talking to someone at half time that watched him at Clitheroe n they said they thought hes worth a shot.
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Can't do any worse,but I don't get any pleasure watching young Macey crumble,his head just went . |
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Not really bothered anymore!! The poor keeper should have been subbed at half time his confidence is shot at and probably made his last apperance at the club. Not a happy bunny:(
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why is J C so negative on Carver, I thought he nodded the ball on well to create chances for others but the service to him up front was non existent.
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I'll leave the analysis to the Pundits !..... Suffice it to say that the writing which was appearing on the wall at Tranmere, is now taking on a more patent and disconcerting appearance !. It makes one consider the fact that whoever is directing operations at Accrington Stanley is not doing it very successfully !.
Today's attitudes left much to be questioned and open to criticism, and it disturbed me to see when the team were certainly second best in every department such negative and at times unacceptable reactions to this so clearly on display!. So who is responsible for creating this mess ?, and is there anyone responsible for reversing the trend which is, sad to say, leading the Reds on a downward spiral to total failure as a Football League Club?. If there is then how can they sit back and watch this whole sorry scene unfolding before their eyes ?. I don't know the answers, or if there is an answer even, but those holding the reins at the Stanley must, for the Players and the Fans, take them up and steer our Club in a different direction to the one being pursued at the present time !. (Overheard from the 'get it up t'field contingent '....." Stop passing that ball around and kick it up t'field "........I despair ! :( ) |
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Keeper had a shocker.
Maguire was non-existent. Bad runs of form will happen - hopefully we'll be able to strengthen during the loan window. |
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:(I was saying to my son and trapdoor just befor Naismith was subbed that i would have taken the keeper off in stead and swopped like for like! Well our manager over heard and verbally attacked me with a barrage of foul mouth language.not happy:(:(:(:(:(
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one thing is for certain.
you can have a great manager, you can have a great board, you can have great players, but without the fans the club has nothing, I think we have great fans |
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The thing we fail with consistently is to play the ball on the deck, we persist in lumping it forward at Giraffe height, against tall defenders.
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What's happened Mab?,or is it not for the forum ?
Back to the game,I thought Coley missed a trick at half time . They tucked their wide men in and let us have the ball,I would have brought lids on and told him to push on ( although deans man never got past him,he would be sacrificed). Saying that, rob and seamus are not "talkers" or "organisers",and I would definitely play Dean in the middle,were we got picked off on the counter attack too easily. |
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Mab, that's out of order.
You have a right as a paying customer to have an opinion. You have even more of a right of you didn't swear or say anything offensive in the 1st place. Phil Brown recently spoke about an incident with a fan st Southend who was giving him stick, when Southend scored the winner Brown turned to the fan and asked him the score. I haven't got a problem with that as it was intense by all accounts but respect was shown. I'm sorry I don't care who you are if someone shares an opinion which you don't like in an non offensive manner and you answer back at them in a foul mouthed way, then you owe that person an apology. It doesn't matter how frustrated you are at the situation, you shouldn't do a t and if you do an apology is required. |
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How many shockers does McGuire have to play to get dropped?
Is he on a pay if he doesn't play type loan? |
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If he flicks it on,it's pointless as there will be nobody there !!. To be fair he tried to hold it up,but was reluctant to spin and get in behind them and sean never linked up or helped him :( |
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I didn't see the game football19, but this was his criticism under beattie and why he was often used as an impact sub.
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Is the catering van in the main stand better than the one in the Clayton end?
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Another incident I don't condone was Deans premeditated elbow on Richards,glad he got up,but was out of order,frustration or not,it has no place in the modern game :(
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It's not right for the manager to speak to fans like that.
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Wasn't going to have a moan today but..
Sorry but wrong team selection again and boy did it show. Back 5 a disaster, Coneelly not good enough, Dean should be playing in middle alongside Atkinson (a combination that has worked v well in the past.) Especially as we've got 2 decent full backs on the bench. Buxton obviously got talent but erratic defensively and seems to just want to show how many tricks he's got rather than passing the ball. Joyce and Proctor were bullied out of the game and Kal is just starved of the ball until he loses interest. Having said all that for the 1st 20 minutes of the 2nd half there was only 1 team in it and it just looked a matter of time before we scored. Then the ridiculous mix-up and that was it, game over! One other thing why to we pass it to death in our defensive 3rd then play a long hopeful punt up to players who need it to feet? I'm all for keeping possession and being patient but you've still got to be progressive - we have opportunities to play forward and time after time turn and play back and square. Only way is up :-) |
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Remember Coley's first spell him telling a critical lady that she could have her money back and leave the ground if she was not satisfied but a bit more forcefully than that.
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....Never known myself for a husband and wife to divorce then re-marry and have a happy and prosperous life...
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Jeez never thought I'd say it but Bavs is more reliable than this lad in goal. Send him back give Dawbs a chance and readdress!
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got to say, very honest interview by coleman.
got to give him credit for his honesty, i do like it. seems to confirm what everyone else on here says, the 3rd goal was a killer. I hope when he was talking about having to much faith in players and bad team selection he was refering to McGuire [YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VmSFVAXa4I[/YOUTUBE] |
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It might be honest, but I certainly don't like it.
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I don't often come on here these days (too much mindless abuse:) ) but I was sitting in front of MAB I assume because I was witness to the incident described.
Well, football is an emotional game and we all say some things in the heat of battle that we regret or we wouldn't say in normal circumstances. But what our glorious leader did was off the scale and really inappropriate way to behave. As fans we are entitled to our opinion and MAB didn't aim the comments at JC but got a mouthful for his trouble, in a way that would have been rewarded with a punch in the face if it had been said in the pub. This club does not have so many fans that it can afford to treat any of them like that. There are signs up throughout the stadium asking us to "watch your language" but employees of the club need to take heed themselves. I get that our glorious leader was frustrated and generally hacked off. (& I think subbing the goalie would have been a a bad move) but that behaviour was miles out of order. If I want to hear potty-mouth abuse I shall sit next to Andy Murray's girlfriend... |
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I was sat behind MAB and he was talking to me - he just said to me who he thought should come off - Coley overheard and hurled a load of foul language - no need.
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Absolutely disgusting behaviour and by the sounds of it an embarrassing performance.
How much longer are we going to let these idiots destroy our club?? |
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I have to give credit to JC for accepting responsibility for the team selection and player he has brought in. I do believe the loss of Tom Aldred to Blackpool had unsettled the side. However it would be unfair to pick out individual players at this point Other than to say they should have played far better than they did. some were more committed than others and the inexperience of the goal keeper brought us down, Ultimately JC says wholesale changes have not been ruled out but what is need is a prper game plan and some better tactics. I would suggest that JC is not the man to take the club further and should do the honourable thing and resign.
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Its 4 defeats in a row, hardly a mass crisis.
If it gets to 10 league games without a victory, any manager whoever they are should walk. Beattie got as many as 12 league games before a win. We have witnessed some great results and performances under Coleman, and equally some stinkers. Its insane to be calling for him to walk away at this stage. I expect once the transfer window is closed, it will work in our favour as players will be more desperate to move, and the kind of loans and free transfers we can afford wont be affected by the transfer window, but it may give a few of them a wake up call that they need to find a club ASAP or rot in the reserves/stay unemployed. |
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I'm with you on this, Davo. I'm sure Coley can turn things round but he really has to start with a clean sheet with his team selection and be ruthless with those who are consistently under performing, whether loan players or not. Big, honest decisions required to get his best 11 players on the pitch in their best positions..
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And now for my two penn'orth. Yes, the keeper was responsible for at least two goals. But there were many other issues. In reality we were totally inept. The main problem was Maguire. To be honest there were some excellent crossfield passes from Joyce and Barry, but when the wingers collected them, notably Piero (the passes to Naismith produced nothing), there was no-one available to receive a pass and link up play. And that should have been Maguire.
And how we missed Tom Aldred. Northampton soon realised that route 1 would yield results. Conneely seemed competent but he does not have the huge physical presence and organising skills that Tom has. But the focus must really be on the manager. His decision to take off Carver and replace him with Gray was a very poor decision indeed. Surely it was Maguire who should have been replaced by Gray. It was difficult to imagine that Northampton had 10 men - our football genius and his sidekick clearly lacked the tactical knowledge to take advantage of the numerical difference. More worrying still is the lack of support and encouragement that comes from the dugout. Chris Wilder and his assistant were encouraging/cajoling/advising throughout the game. JC was merely a passive observer - except, it seems, when a fan happens to voice an opinion. And the most worrying thing of all is the very evident lack of spirit in the dressing room. The blame for this must lie with the management. It started when the loanees arrived and immediately were given favoured status in team selection. In a separate thread, football19 says that JC and JB expect players to do a job for job for them, and if they do that job, all well and good. But that seems not to be correct. On today's evidence, it was impossible to see who was doing what job. But more importantly, team selection appears to be capricious and not based on performance at all. Football19 also says that you know where you are with JC. I think that we have all worked for managers who have been able to manage without favouritism and seeming vindictiveness, and yet are able to assert their authority as managers and therefore are successful. Sadly, I suspect we have also worked for managers who do display favouritism and vindictiveness. It is now time to ask who is running the club? Will JC's outburst against a fan simply be accepted? Will the decision to use an announcer from an away team be questioned and publicly explained? How much effort was made to keep Tom Aldred (he had been VERY happy at the club) or was he considered expendable? And when, by the way, is the annual meeting for shareholders? |
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Aldred was not going to stay around once there was interest from bigger clubs. , better to get some cash now than nothing considering how tight the cash flow must be with the cancelled games.
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We have finally been on the football league show, Macey AND Atkinson had absolute shockers.
I really don't know what people see in Atkinson. And Macey should be sent back to Arsenal, he jumped over the penalty! Surely we can find a better loan keeper than this joker? Revived Red, I forgot to add, I agree with you about McGuire, the lad needs to go back to west ham. |
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Whilst Coleman has worked wonders in the past for this club, his connection with this club should have been left there. Who was it said that Ex-managers should never go back to former clubs ?? It very rarely has positive results. Admittedly there are exceptions to that rule, but few and far between. I hope one day we will find out the truth about Beattie's departure, when we'll all be in a better position to assess that situation.....to speculate the reasons would be folly. All I will say, is that since Beattie's departure, many aspects of this so called "professional club" have taken a distinct nosedive. From the shambles of making a laughing stock of ourselves with the ticket fiasco to allowing a visiting teams announcer taking control and fully utilising our home P.A. system. And now we have Coleman berating loyal fans with his colourful language, just for having the sheer temerity of questioning his management skills. That is every paying customer's right and Coleman should have been "Professional" enough to take it on the chin and move on. In conclusion, I will only add that I, like others, want what is best for this club. Like others, I can only hope that we see an upturn in fortunes both on and off the pitch. But to achieve that everyone needs to be rowing in the same direction. Quite clearly, and more so worryingly, that doesn't seem to be the case.:( |
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Some good points Revived,but having studied the goals ,I disagree about the keeper being responsible for two goals,more like all five !!!.
Shocking is an understatement, Even the first,which I blamed Bucko ,was the keeper,the lad shot from two yards from the byeline,ten yards from goal and beat the the keeper at the near post !!,terrible keeping. The second he dove over the penalty,what the hell was he doing outside his area for the third when Piero had got back,the fourth he just has to call to rob and stroll out and pick the ball up and for the fifth,although not all his fault,his starting position was on his goal line !! When defending,confidence starts with your keeper,for me,he's not upto this level. Your right about Tom tho,we missed his "talking" just as much as his physical presence,but even he couldn't stop joke goal keeping. Coneelly is a nice balanced,composed footballer,league two centr back?,only time will tell,as you have to be tough and prepared to go in,mix it,and compete with the opposition . Coley is the man for the job,no question,but the lads let him down yesterday. |
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With everything that has gone on in the last week or so I had decided not to post as it will just end up in a slanging match with DAV (who stood me up yesterday)
I would like to make just one comment about a player yesterday...Piero Mingoia Outstanding doesn't do him justice,it is unbelievable that he was on the losing side with the performance he put in.He was MOM by a mile ,he covered every single foot of that... no inch of that pitch,defending attacking,helping in midfield and he chased to pickup the ball for throw ins even deep in injury time,never believing his efforts were futile. Maybe one thing good can come out of this shambles and Coley could play the game video of Pieros work rate and try to get the squad to emulate him. |
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I won't go through the side but rather reiterate that as a Football League team they, at this moment in time are shapeless, under motivated, leaderless, and clearly in dire need of some decent coaching . So I ask again, is there anyone at the club with the skill, knowledge , wit, and desire to reverse what is now looking more and more like a one way descent into the anonymity of the Conference !. To make it worse, all the teams below us, through good management and sheer effort are playing good football and getting the results !. Incidentally, I agree with your best mate's assessment of Pietro who really did 'put in a shift' yesterday !. ( Alfred.E and I are somewhat morose this morning !. ) |
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It's a mark of Coleys teams that never give up and a lot of lads seemed to be going thro the motions at present. I think the tough game on Tuesday told yesterday,and we struggled to get our second wind in the first half. They fired into us from the off,direct and aggressive,and a few lads didn't want to know,probably why Coley was fuming,but that's no excuse for what happened to Mab. We need some lads with fight and desire (as well as a keeper ! )or at least talkers to get us organised KTF |
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Think they are going through the motions, cos team spirit is decreasing more rapidly than i envisaged, its a long time since i saw a stanley side drop there heads like that.:(
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I'm so disappointed after yesterday. We're in a worrying rut that cool heads and togetherness will resolve, but that needs to start and I've not seen signs it is doing.
Aside from the goalkeeping, which I'll come to in a minute, the two most worrying aspects for me yesterday were the lack of cohesion and team spirit amongst the group and the inability to manage the game once they'd gone down to 10. We didn't show any fighter appetite for the game and were handed a lifeline with the penalty and the sending off. With additional time added on in each half we'd 57 minutes to play against 10 men, and simply didn't show any game management for this situation. We did ok for the first 10 minute or so in the 2nd half, but got sloppy and then got punished. We should have moved the ball quicker and made them work hard off the ball and chances would have come. Coleman appears erratic to me at the moment and I'm not seeing any consistency in what he says and what he does. He blamed individual players on Tuesday, whereas yesterday put himself up as the fall guy. A a week or so ago, we didn't need to add to the squad, now we need fundamental changes. We'll never know whether the public comments he made towards Macey affected his confidence, but I've not been convinced with him in any of the games he's played and I'd put 4 goals yesterday to him. He's young and on a learning curve, but for his sake and that of the team, he needs to be taken out of the firing line as he's not yet up to it. On Tuesday night, Coleman said that Gray's style didn't fit into the style of the team, yet he turns to him yesterday to rescue something up front. We're crying out for someone up front who can hold the ball up, bring others into the play and also stop it coming straight back and give the defence precious seconds to reset. Maguire shows touches of being neat and tidy, but maybe needs someone to play alongside to bring the best from him. With the current group and on current form, he doesn't deserve to start. I feel some of trust between players and management has gone and look to the management team to work quickly to get it back. The heart and some of the threat seems to have gone from the team since O'Sullivan returned to Blackburn. Am looking to Coleman to sort it out, but he needs a plan and right now, I'm afraid to me it doesn't look like he's got one. |
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FA19 !....What few have noted is that t!he ' 10 -men Cobblers ' were probably one of the best sides to visit the Store first this season. That's probably what prompted me to say that without a shadow of doubt we were by far second-best in every department !...as we were at Tranmere et al !. Northampton had shape and desire and the skilled players able to back up their Manager's game-plan. One final thought I had as I left the ground was ' they can't possibly train all week to produce the non-soccer (if that's an acceptable term ?) which I had just witnessed !....and I was saddened by the thought !. QUO VADIS STANLEY ?. |
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Couldn't make the game due to other commitments. Just seen the goals. Oh dear.
Obviously Macey isn't ready for this level and needs sending back. A problem might arise if Stanley face a financial penalty from his parent club for ending his spell prematurely. The other option - leaving him on the bench and starting Dawber - might leave us with hefty wages to pay. Who'd be a manager? I'm not concerned about relegation. Looking forward to the summer when John and Jimmy can rebuild this side. |
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Think thats balls shaker, A great deal of rebuilding? Besides the obvious keeper i reckon we need a player wi the competitiveness of proccy, but quicker plus a player who happens to be a striker, not shove ins who are not. we got a decent crux of a team no doubt at all. Try counting the fans who may be lost by John Coleman thats a harder task fer anyone.
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It's strange that it's come too this.. Four weeks ago Coley was saying what a great squad he had ,we were just out of the play offs with a game in hand.What a turnaround in such a short time... Somehow it'll be Beatties fault and not Super Johnnies.
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You can go thro their team and they have invested heavy in getting away from the relegation zone,we simply cant do that. They have Richards and otoole up top,we have Carver and McGuire,love to put their career stats side by side !! We have lost probably three of our star performers (keeper,Jonno and Tom) what are people expecting. We have introduced "rookies"to plug gaps (not their fault),Carver,Coneelly,keeper,Bucko,how many games have they played??,that's nearly half your team and more importantly part of the spine,which is key to success. Saying that,we should still of got something out of the game,but our inexperience cost us dearly,hopefully Coley addresses this and we start picking up points. |
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