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Well,
just like the Pompey away game when I expected Stanley get smashed, we will probably win!

Is there a supporters coach going?
If not, how close is the ground to the train station?


Hopefully we may have some new recruits by the 7th Feb!

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Forget the train, £154 quid return!

Leave at 08:04, arrive at 14:44!
And no train home after 3.25pm until the next day.
I would have to leave the game earlier than usual!

trains are a rip off

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Why don't you saddle up your mole?

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I think Malcolm is otherwise occupied this Saturday.;)

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fly Manchester - Exeter & do the train Exeter to Plymouth :)

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Thanks lancsdave, will look into it.

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Three points would be very nice indeed. You never can tell.

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Looking forward to see the team selection, Pierro will no doubt be dropped, as he was best man on the field last sat.:eek:

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Maybe something along the lines of...


...less a 4-5-1, more a parked bus with Gornell tartlining :D

Realistically I expect Naismith to start in Buxton's place and maybe Windass for Barry.

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That dont look bad to me Shaker.

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You coming down Cashy ?

Davo's tempted by all accounts................

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Yep.;)

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Don't make it a date smobile,he'll stand you up !!!

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Quote from John Sheridan ......

"They're a funny team Accrington , on their day they can get some really good results !"

Perhaps he sees something to laugh at as he views videos of the Reds' last four games ?, or does he mean 'funny'... unpredictable ?.....
Whichever, my hope lies with his second point and that they do indeed get a good result..TOMORROW !!.
Without a more positive effort, better leadership, and a bit of good fortune, and the right outcome that six point gap is likely to shrink and the pressure will really be on !.
The writing was just about legible on the wall last Saturday !....hopefully I won't see any at all tomorrow tea-time l

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Bright sunshine 8* AND NO SIGN OF DAV

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Davies, Hunt, Conneely, Atkinson, Deano, Barry, Joyce, McCarten, Piero, Windass, Gornell :)

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Well, that team is a breath of fresh air! Only change from that for me would be Lids at left back.

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Team looks ok to me, fingers crossed for the next 90 minutes :rolleyes:
Is anyone else having trouble with the live text coverage - all I'm getting is a grey box with the date & time of the game in it?

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has anyone got a text comm ? - even bbc isn't playing ball for me.

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That's all we have too. Looks like were going to have to rely on sky sports news. Very poor!

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No text commentary as no internet at home park according to twitter

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it's all gone west - if you'll excuse the pun Sparkie

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Twitter:
https://twitter.com/ASFCofficial/with_replies

or
http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Plym...ail/story.html

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Good to see Hunt restored at RB

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thanks MikeA - notice only Prem + 4 champ games have comm so far on bbc

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It's there now:
BBC Sport - Plymouth Argyle v Accrington Stanley

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goal plymouth

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Plymouth 1 accy 0

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Plymouth 1 reds 0

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The goal sounds like poor defending by Coneelly who should have cleared earlier according to the radio

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Not a good time to concede, not that there is one - hope the lads don't come out in 2nd half with their heads down

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Kurtis Guthrie scores..............................an own goal!

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HT and it sounds like Davies is keeping us in it

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Getting a bit worried yet ??.

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I always worry when we go behind. Mind you I always worry when we go ahead!

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If the BBC stats are to be believed, we've had 65% of possession.

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Michael Liddle on for Seamus Conneely.

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What I'm hearing on the radio would suggest that Plymouth could have been further ahead with the chances they have had and we have only had one really good chance. Things could change though.

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Not yet. We sound a lot better than we looked last week but the next goal will be an important one. If we get it we have a chance but if they get it I don't think we will.

I'm only listening to Radio Devon so it could look different at the game but I'd doubt it.

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Don't fret guys Macguire has just come on!

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That was the last sub too as Naismith came on earlier.

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Listening too on Radio Devon and we do sound woeful!

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Other than Davies nobody sounds like they are doing much and it's the poor finishing by Plymouth rather than good Accy defending that's keeping us in it.

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Dan's just said on radio that we're attacking but looks like we could play all night & still not score - sound familiar? :rolleyes:

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Certainly haven't heard any attacking don't think the murderer in goal has dirtied his knees

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One shot on target in 90 minutes. Sheeeesh!

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Another first then. First time Plymouth have beaten us at home park apparently.

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Not really looking forward to Tuesday's game - if we don't turn this round pdq we're gonna be in real trouble - not a happy bunny tonight

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5 defeats on the bounce heading only one way, time for JC to go?

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5 points off relegation and 12 points off the play offs he certainly isn't the chuffin' messiah and we are in a relegation scrap and have to turn this round pretty much immediately. My concern is Coleman is possibly a dinosaur and whilst his tactics/managerial style may have worked previously they now appear to be out-moded and I don't think the players are playing for him.....worried!

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Luckily most of the results at the bottom seemed to go our way but we need to improve and quick.

As I've said to Dav0 in the past, opinions of people who weren't at the game can be of limited value so I will wait to hear from those at the game before being too critical. That said the commentary on Radio Devon, which may be biased, didn't sound good from our point of view.

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And I'm looking forward to any excuses disguised as pearls of wisdom which he'll see fit to mumble forth tonight !!

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It could be along the lines of - a defensive error by conneelly cost us the game, too many changes forced by the poor performance last week, new players need time to get used to the style of play, we need another centreback, unlucky as we had our chances but didn't take them, its a hard place to come to and win, we are looking at new players in the loan window or Dav0's favorite - it was Beatties players to blame.

those are my entries for the excuses bingo :D

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Or the website could be down and we don't get anything or is that just me?

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We need a goalscorer in the window probaly get another midfielder.

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Can,t get on website happen shut up run out of excuses.

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I think 65% possession and one shot on target tells its own story.
We dominated the ball but in wrong areas and never looked like scoring. They were no better than us and only looked dangerous at corners and breakaways when we attempted to force the game
To be fair they only had two shots on target, the rest were from distance.
Just don't know we're the goals are going to come from,with people just passing on the responsibility.
A lot better than last week and a horror mistake has cost us again.
Positives,keeper,gornell battled and we controlled Reid and Alexandra's threat for large periods.
Before we get too down hearted, four of their team are on £5k a week and five on £4k ,just shows what we are up against,it's going to tough KTF

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You are SO cynical !!

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Like others, I await the "messiahs" take on what was....by the sounds of it....yet another tame surrender.:confused:

I personally think that morale must be at rock bottom, team spirit virtually non-existent and confidence in the manager and his management team in very,very short supply.:(

Every year one side makes the slide from grace into the relegation places. With every passing game, like others, I fear the writing is on the wall. Looking at the upcoming fixtures and indeed what remains of the season, I'm wondering where we're going to get the other 18-20 points which will be required for safety from.:confused:

I've said it before and will say it again.....Coleman worked wonders for this club in the past and for that we are all eternally grateful. However, I think it was a big mistake bringing him back.:(

Like captain Ahab in pursuit of the great white whale, Coleman is blinkered tactically and still apparently can't see the blatantly obvious lack of attacking options.

Despite bringing in Gornell, the keeper and the winger, I don't think we're any stronger. If the players have lost confidence in the manager and won't play for him ( and his assistant) there will only be one end result.

To quote words from one of another contributor's previous posts ..... "sleepwalking towards relegation " springs to mind.:mad:

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Is the fact that the Official Site is unavailable somewhat ominous one wonders ??..Having this vital need to view the latest news and view it's great features ,I attempted to get myself over there,and all to no avail !.
Is there nothing to be said ?.....Is there an abdication speech being prepared ?.....Has everyone gone home and switched the damn thing off ?....
My suspicious nature is working overtime !.

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By the sounds of it yet another woeful display.

Messiah??!!!

MY arse

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Or maybe it's to do with there being no wifi at Plymouth?

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Down For Everyone Or Just Me -> Check if your website is down or up?

It's not just you! http://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk looks down from here.

Check another site?

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Probably not paid the bill !

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Problem has been reported to the website server people

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some of you would blame the club if it snowed or if your bus was late.

give them a break.

football 19 summed it up, we where in the game for long periods but lacked a clincial touch.
It sounds positive to me.

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That's up there with DAV007 for bampotedness. :D

No wifi at Plymouth wouldn't have the Accy website down

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Burton on top form for Tuesday; queue cheesy Top Gun montage training song!

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Good job Stanley are playing Oxford then :)

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we play oxford

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Got it !!.

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im waiting for chubbyman and cashmans comments before i make a full judgement

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When things go from bad to worse,stayed down in Plymouth for a northern soul event and they cancelled it a the last minute,gutted isn't the word :(

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Can someone please tell me a reliable source where it says Coleman has fell out with the whole dressing room?

Its just peoples bull**** because we are on a bad run. A top keeper has come on loan because coleman sold him the club and the a top league 2 striker Terry Gornell has come back to the club also because of John!

It was an away game, were in bad form, the team arnt performing and heads are down but i believe that the next game at home if us supporters get behind the team then we can get at least a point on the board and start climbing the table again!

If we was in the same position with any manager then i for one would know or think of two people that have the passion and drive to save the club from relegation and that would be John and Jimmy and the fact they are here now i believe that they will succesfully keep us up this season. As for next season and the chairman thinking that this isnt the right manager for the club and decides to get rid of the duo then so be it ! However lets get behind John , Jimmy, The Players and The Staff and start climbing the table again!

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In the absence of the Fishy site, this was taken from the Sky web site on today's match. For what it's worth...
Accrington boss John Coleman said: "I am really disappointed. There was a 20 minute spell there in the second half when Plymouth missed a host of chances.
"Prior to that and after, that there was nothing in it. You could see two nervous teams who haven't won for a while.
"In the last 10 minutes you could see Plymouth panicking as we pinned them in.
"That's testament to the fact they haven't won for a while.
"But again we have undone by an individual error. It was disappointing because 10 seconds prior to that there was a foul on our centre half that was not given.
"When you are down there and things aren't going well for you, you get punished for that and then we have made a mistake to compound it. So instead of us putting the ball in there box, they put the ball in our box and we make a mistake and give them a goal, which is disappointing.
"Again individual errors are hurting us at the moment, in the last four weeks we are making mistakes and getting punished.
"The one crumb of comfort us that we kept going right to the very end and we could have nicked an equaliser.

It's no surprise that Sky's sub editors (if such exist) do not know there is a big difference, and one usually worth observing, between 'there' and 'their'.

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The stats are correct, but stats mean sod all if not in a threatening position,;) Check how many shots Plymouth had n then look at ours, those stats tell a better story.;) overall a much better performance than any of the previous 4 imho, but once again we trys to walk the ball into the net, instead of shooting on sight.:eek: The fact is we need to score 2 goals to even have a chance of winning, when again we give our usual Gift.:( Three lads that really deserve credit today our new keeper, Joss Windass, n Terry Gornell, the others apart from 3 had good games, only Lids of our subs deserves any credit to me, Mcguire n Kal did very little. overall disappointed wi the result, pleased wi the improvement, Were gonna have to seriously get shut of these errors, is it bad players or bad coaching? i'll let you decide that. Oxford on tues is now a Massive match, get yer arses in gear n get behind the lads Tuesday.

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Should've come back. There was a Northern Soul do in Accy Town Hall tonight!

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No comment...except to tell you smobile asked me if I knew you and was looking all over the ground for a Tranny of Jamacian extraction,he seemed quite excited!!!

BBC report that Plymouth had only one more shot on target than Accy today.

Tough time in a tough away game is how I saw it from afar.

Conceding one rather than five is a rapid improvement ;)

In keeping with the motif of some earlier posts, whack on some Edwin Starr and for goosness sake, keep the faith.

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Disappointed to see Buxton dropped he is a good player and we will miss him.

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We looked at the sky stats, The beeb must be pished, if they reckon Plymouth only had one more shot than us. I said it was a much better performance, And it wasn't that tough first hand, they just were FAR more threatening than us.

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I haven't seen the stats but I listened to the game on the radio and if the stats show that was a close game then its a pile of "fish" (see my previous posts for rhymes with).

I can't state categorically that the team are not playing 100% for the manager today as I wasn't there but I was at the last 4 games and something isn't right. We can ask for proof of disharmony in the dressing room but after watching the last 4 games I'd say that is a moot point.

We can argue shots on goal all we want but the commentry I heard sounded like they were far more threatening than we were and if everybody on both sides took their chances we were well horsed.

We cannot and will not get rid of Coley this late in the season so we need to pull a rabbit out of a hat or hope the teams below us are worse than we are but I am not confident just now.

I still think we will stay up but it could be a long run in and blind faith is no longer an option.

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Be careful what you wish for !!,my other team,wigan,got rid of Owen coyle because of the supporters pressure ( ex Bolton) despite being 5th in the league and one game from progressing in the Europa cup.
They are now nailed on to be relegated to the first division after trying another three managers.
Change is not a guarantee for success and the players must step up and face the battles ahead

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But we aren't 5th in the league and the cups are long gone, we are heading towards the wrong end of the table and playing relatively poorly.

I don't advocate changing the manager as it is a far bigger risk but something has to be done to stop the rot and quickly.

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As you say we are at the wrong end of the table....and The Football League !...we are playing poorly !....we are not scoring goals !....we can't change the one who purports to Manage the team !...we are, or so it has been said, penniless!, and like you point out, something has to be done quickly !...BUT , and nota bene, unless we,as some of our fellow contributors appear to be ?, just happen to be totally au fait with all that is taking place in the Boardroom, in the Dressing Room, on the pitch, in those secret meetings behind the closed doors of cubby-holes beneath the Main Stand !, or whatever ?. Then I maintain that we can post as much supposition and guesswork as we can all muster on this message-board, and still the 'something will have to be done ' will not be ours to determine or decide upon!.

In the light of this, have you, like me, got the foggiest idea of how to cure the malaise which affects our Club and is costing it so dearly ?.......NO ?..... I thought not !!.

I continue to worry, and dare not miss my medication !.

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You are right, I don't have the foggiest, like your good self. If only I had then all would be well. I haven't checked my lottery ticket yet though so perhaps I may yet have an answer :D.

edit - I have now and it's still down to Coley to pull a rabbit out of the had as, like Accy in the last five games, I got nowt :(

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I aint the foggiest either, but i would have thought, giving what few strikers we had a run out, wouldn't have done any more damage? if they dont come up to scratch, fair enough, but at least it woulda been tried.:eek:

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I think like most seasons we will have to battle relegation again and unless we can loan a decent striker or find a rich investor we will have to rely on Coley getting the best out of the players we've got, the fans only option is to give the team our support

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I know redraine won't like this but we have to start with clean sheets, no nonsense defending and stop gifting goals

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That is spot on, but whats the reason we keep gifting every match recently?

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The goal conceded yesterday was caused by an individual error (Conneely). Aside from that, Reuben Reid - one of the most talented forwards in the league - was kept out for the entire game and the keeper played well. For me our only consistent problem is defending from the front which has been weak. We need players who can press and counter well - ie 4 Piero Mingoias!

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So after the combined genius of Deeayess, Cashy and I have arrived at "we haven't the foggiest !"...Has F19 has found at least one nail to hit on the head ?....( although Redraine apparently won't !like it !).
It's the nails being tapped surreptitiously, but with regularity into the lid of the coffin within which the Reds could possibly be buried in the depths of Conference Football that is worrying me !.
Gosh !....what a terrible analogy that is, what am I thinking about !.
Brightening up, I presume that the silky skills of our ex- Real Madrid starlet are waiting to be put on show against Oxford United on Tuesday evening. These being unleashed on unsuspecting southerners should bring us the three points we crave so badly.....Oh, and not forgetting the clean sheet which F19 is fervently hoping for !

See you there !.

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Our consistent problem for me shaker, is the fact we play most of our football in areas that will never do any damage, then instead of shooting on sight, we try to walk the ball in the net.;)

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Hang on, Footy! How could anyone, least of all me, not like those habits?

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I find the situation of players not playing for the manager a bit bemusing. I've had some crap bosses in my time, (probably have the worst one ever now :)), but you get paid to do a job and should do it to the best of your ability.

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No-one would doubt that, But life aint like that,as you well know Dave.

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Should is the operative word. Unfortunately things in football world differ considerably from things in real world.

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The solution to Stanley's predicament is clear.
Get Davo's nurse to dispense some of the happy pills he's on to the board, management, squad, and fans:rolleyes:

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Only joking Redraine,you know I am obsessed with organised defending and clean sheets. !!!,but shaker makes a great point.
In the second half ( Piero had gone off),we turned over possession and Naismith,windass and McGuire were spread across the pitch and had no chance of getting back.
I know we are craving for goals,but we have to be organised at all times or we get picked off.

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I'm not sure I understand this. Please explain. Why did they have "no chance of getting back"?

Why are we not organised at all times? Is it a failure of management? Or training? Or coaching? Do the players not know what the have to do? Are they simply not good enough?