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No wonder nobody wants to start the thread after such a lack-lustre performance when we yet again throw away a good lead and demonstrate our complete inability to deal with 10 men. Mind you, I never felt comfortable even when 2 up. An opportunity thrown away.

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Didn't bother, stayed at home in the pub. Watched it on live text though but to be honest wasn't as bothered missing it as I thought I would be. And the irony is that I have a flexi ticket so the club didn't lose out.

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Whilst I agree Redraine i have to give respect to Barnet they never gave up. we did at the last 15 Mins. we should have brought Buxton on to shore up the defence and played one up front. But I am not the gaffer, it is a shame as it is two point we needed, like we need every point we can get until the end of the season. a few clean sheets are needed desperately.

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Barnet defence i thought was well drilled, but 2-0 up against 10 men, can anyone tell me WHY an extra striker wasn't put on, in fact why no subs were used,:(

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Woke the wifey up with a loud expletive when Barnets equaliser went in. So with the disappointment of dropping 2 points comes the prospect of living with a grumpy woman for the day. :(

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Threw 2 points away today, thought we would have had a right rollocking from Coley at half time, seemed to work for a few minutes, when were 2-0 up, I said it would be good to keep a clean sheet, & then we concede one!

If Coley was unhappy with Tuesday's performance, I look forward to his after match comments today!!'

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Was never going to be an easy game,and defensively they were well drilled.
We showed patience and dealt with their direct approach reasonably well.
Their long throw specialist threw the ball into dangerous areas time and time again and we adapted to suit.
Eventually we got our rewards with two decent finishes.
They immediately made substitutions,removing the long throw guy and were a better team for it.
Our Achilles heel of being unable to keep clean sheets got us again.
Firstly,Matty unbelievably allowed himself to get the wrong side of his man ( had a great game tho) Then Halliday? gave away a cheap free kick and big centre forward powered home a header from it.
I still believe we should have brought on mccarten on,even before they went down to ten men as they were tiring at the back and it would have suited his direct running.
Two points lost,but I think we did enough to win the game,just individual errors cost us.

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Exactly Shay shoulda been on when they went down to 10 men, RANK poor management today imho.

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WE had a half time presentation to Shay at half time, presumably for L2 player of the month. To have him sitting on the bench throughout was at least negligent, at worst criminal when golden boy was giving one of his masterclasses of ineffectiveness.

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2 points thrown away today, having said that if the lines-man had of been up with the play he would have seen that their big no. 9 was in an off-side position prior to passing to their no.12 who scored their first goal

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I agree 100% with Cashman and Football19 that we THREW AWAY 2 POINTS today!!:eek::eek::eek:
The first half to me seemed somewhat lacklustre and Barnet were looking happy to keep the score at 0 - 0 which I think they would have been happy with at full time. We had more of the possession in the first half but I don't remember us actually making a real scoring chance before half time. The Assistant Referee on the Whinney Hill side was hardly ever up with play and Barnet got away with some decisions fully three yards offside! :confused:The big lad Akinde up front was proving to be a handful and did more than his fair share of shoving but was rarely penalised!:pnowink:
The second half began with us providing a bit more 'Zip' and eventually our pressure told and we got the important first goal from Billy which was fully deserved.:theband::alright:
I could see the Barnet players heads droop at this stage as they clearly expected us to go on and totally dominate and score more goals!:) The same Assistant Referee was still behind play as we got away with a couple of offside decisions too....at least he was consistent....CONSISTENTLY BAD!! :bingobang
Barnet were clearly hanging on at this stage and I thought that, as we put them under increasing pressure, the Referee should have awarded us more free kicks than he actually did and he therefore he would have issued them with a couple of yellow cards for repeated fouls.:whack: Most of our threats were coming down the right wing via Pierro and Halliday. We duly scored the second goal which was great for Crooksy after the criticism that he received following the previous match.:theband:
Barnet made all three substitutions early and then one of their lads went off with a knock which left them with ten men for the remainder of the match. Had we been ruthless at this stage we would/should have scored again and won easily! Barnet continued with their direct style and we allowed them to dominate some possession even though they only had ten players. For their two late goals it was difficult from the Clayton End to see what was going on, down t'other of t'ground, but we seemed to give Akinde and his mates far too much respect and time on the ball and they nicked a couple of goals!! Having just watched Coley's interview on the Fishy site he took issue with the Referee about a foul for the first goal and a ball possibly being out of play for the second goal! I couldn't tell from the other end!?:idunno::idunno:
This probably goes down as one of Barnet's best results of the season but really we simply let them off the hook. Coley should have brought on Shay McCarten when they scored their first goal to freshen our hold on the game. My view is that the best form of defence is attack. There were times late on when we had such an overwhelming amount of time to build attacks, due to them packing all of their players in defence, that our players almost got in each other's way but really we showed a basic lack of guile of how to break down their defence.:egged:
LEAVING THE GROUND TODAY FELT MORE LIKE A DEFEAT THAN ONE MORE POINT GAINED!:(:(:(
We definitely need to develop a much more RUTHLESS STREAK and KILL THESE TEAMS LIKE BARNET OFF.:knife::conny::knife:
I think that Coley should be harsh on the team this week and get them to think a bit more NASTY and RUTHLESSLY when we are in front, but also look at his failure to make an effective substitution or two when it was clearly needed!

COME ON STANLEY:theband:
RUTHLESS AND RELENTLESS:mad:
TRAMPLE THE OPPOSITION INTO THE TURF:gooddog:
THREE POINTS EVERY MATCH:signbeer:

COME ON YOU REDS:wave8::signbeer:

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Another agonising experience following things remotely.
On Tuesday night, Professor Coleman made two subs when Stanley were 3-0 up, and was criticised for it by some, and today he's criticised for not making subs when 2-0 up. Who'd be a manager?

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We on the terraces are all SUPERB MANAGERS aren't we!:hehetable

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Aye but they were down to 10 men and virtually every week, we hear we try to win every game, well saying and doing were always 2 different things.;)

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Of course it was Sean's fault - what isn't? This constant criticism of the lad, no matter what he does is wearing a bit thin - yes, we threw the 3 points away but by no means was it the fault of any one player - fgs give the lad a break!!

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I've been one of Mr. McConville's critics but have also recognised when he's had a good game, and will accept he's earned his place this season. But where in this thread has anyone said otherwise?

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How do you know who I was talking about, Accy Mad?:D Anyway he was hopeless today and crying out to be subbed. Nothing was was working for him in contrast to our other attackers, we desperately needed an injection of quality which surely the L2 player of the month would have provided. So did you think Sean had a good game and shouldn't have been subbed? Anyway, my constant criticism" is mainly aimed at Coley and Jimmy who refuse to see our weakest link.

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The term 'golden boy' doesn't usually mean anyone else & as next post shows I was right in my assumption

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I knew who you meant as your criticism is usually aimed at him! If the lad so much as misplaces a pass, I can guarantee it won't go unnoticed. And yes, as it happens I think Sean did ok in the main today - but that's football, it's all about opinions

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Fair enough. We'll leave it at that then.

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Can't agree about Sean Mac today,thought he was neat and tidy and probably played the pass of the match in the second half.
Incidentally,when Barnet broke late in the second half,the defence was all at sea,the ball ended up at a Barnet players feet six yards out,a Accident player took it off his toes as he was about to score,yes it was Sean who had raced 60 yards to help !!,funny nobodies mentioned that,the same as scoring a goal as saving one !!

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Sean always has is critics fans just don't like him didn't have the best of games today but you can,t blame him for their goals I thought our back four struggled with Akinde all game and his persistence paid of with an equaliser, personally I think we miss Winnard at the back he,s experience could be vital on the run in hopefully back soon.

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spot on. we always look better with dean at the back. has limitations but knows them. not frightened to put the ball in row z if we had one. 2 points lost against a side who came to defend and did it well. we did the hard thing and broke them down twice. surely we should have had players to play the game out. getting sick of these results. would love to see us go 0-0 away and win 1-0 at home for the rest of the season. cut the defensive mistakes out starting at Yeovil on Tuesday night.

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What a complete load of rubbish, this season alone Coleman has made changes that have won us games.

Please don't generalise

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To me the loss of 2 pts was certainly not down to S.M. who i thought did ok today, it was down to the reason Revived Red said. simple as.

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F19, evenI would never say he doesn't have his moments, but in general his overall quality contribution is way below the average of his team mates. Certainly, if we reach the promised land which we are all rooting for, he will be way below the standard required to hack it in div1, never mind div2.

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I honestly think he's improved so much this season Redraine.
His positional play,decision making and work ethic has really impressed.
Tricky position left side of a three.
If piero played there,I don't think he'd be as effective.
The biggest call yesterday was leaving bucko out and putting Matty there and for 80 minutes it worked a treat.
They have been playing well recently and are a tough nut to crack.
We were patient whilst being solid.
Just mistakes that cost us,and I was gutted for Matty as he was tremendous covering the centre backs,whilst getting forward (should have scored!!).
He was easily the MOM for 80 minutes,pity people will only remember the mistakes !!!

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Sorry F19, but we will have to differ on this. I wonder if you have the stats available, but I would like to know how many crosses came in from Piero and Brad, and how many from Sean and Matty? I would prefer a winger who threatens rather than who is "neat and tidy". Just my opinion!!! ;)

Agreed, but I would expect any player to do that. Overall, I still think that Piero's contribution far outweigh's Sean's

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Frustrating as it is to drop two points in the dying minutes, Stanley gained two points only last week away at Oxford. Any team would be happy to take four out of six available points from another team, and Barnet are improving.
Next couple of months are going to be nail-biting, exhilarating, and frustrating, sometimes in the same 90 minutes. Just be happy to be there watching it unfold, when you can.
And talking of gates, I wasn't too surprised at the numbers given that the away fans had to come from North London, Rovers were at home, and Burnley were at Bolton (I'm assuming the cold weather doesn't deter any hardy Lancastrians).

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Agree with f19 that Sean played well yesterday (he worked his b***s off)an was great in the week against Notts county also, but however he does an will always come in for criticism from a couple of fans especially wen we draw or lose games he is the first person the finger is pointed at, how people can't see are back 4 keep conceding goals an keep making mistakes therefore relying on the front 6 to get us out of trouble almost every game is beyond me! How many clean sheets have we actually kept this season ? An yet we are the highest scorers in the league, people praise Halliday because yes he is great going forward but he is certainly questionable defensively (giving the free kick away for barnets second goal) an also Pearson keeps making big mistakes, if we are to make the play offs or go up automatic we need to stop conceding so many goals, as people have said in other threads we certainly do miss dean winnard.

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It's unfair to judge Sean against piero,different type of players.
Piero put in 10 plus crosses yesterday all were dealt easily with the keeper and centre backs.
Is that poor play?,might as well kick the ball out for a goal kick.
Of course it's not,but with Sean he looks to mix it up,inside/outside/thro ball.
As I said totally different players,piero has a great engine and Sean is a touch player,capable of magic moments (John miles ?,😀,shouldn't have said that !!!)

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What amazes me is not one of you have mentioned the contribution of Rommy Boco on the left wing in the second half. For me, SM gets theball and immediately ventures into a crowded midfield, yes he linked up with Rommy and Matty Pearson well, but Piero and Brad have a better understanding, perhaps Buxton should have started as he has that link play with Sean. I too also wondered why no subs even late on when Barnet got a goal back! Yes 2 points lost, but in the grander scheme of things, we are still 4 points clear of 5th place and still have 2 games in hand on 3rd place with a possibility of catching Oxford and Plymouth (who will also trip up throughout the remainder of the season).

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No you shouldn't have. I might start to remind you of the 15 goals from midfield that you said he would be good for when we re-signed him. He's going to have to go some to live up to your hype!:D

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For me ozzy,it was the right decision to play Matty there,it gave us a extra CB when defending the long throws,and there was a lot.
Big fan of bucko,but defending and covering the CBs is not his strength which was needed yesterday.
It worked for 80mins !,bringing him on when they went down to ten men is a different argument!!!

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Did I say he would score 15 ?,or he had scored 15 previously!!
Not checked there career stats,but who's scored more league goals,Sean or piero? :)

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He's scored 7 redraine to how many has Pierros 3 scored ? As I said earlier they have both been standout players this season in a team that has done really well, yesterday we struggled down to defensive errors.