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I have difficulty understanding all this new fangled stuff.:D

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still do inches and feet, pounds and ounces and miles per gallon and don,t understand this celebrity thing either. i,ve got no chance.

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At least it might solve the problem of you not being able to hear the tannoy on the Clayton End Cashy - all the info you'll need will be up in lights :)

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I'm never yon to hear it at half time di, i'm in the smoking lounge.:D

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There's no pleasing some folk :rolleyes: - maybe they could get the info from the board streamed to the Fanzone & smokers lounge :D

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What happened to the money for the changing a rooms, surely a project should be finished before starting a new one

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Changing rooms changed to the fanzone and was duly paid. It changed as the changing rooms will be redeveloped in due course as part of a larger project

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which was mentioned in the supporters e-mail as i recall?

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Cashy, it'll be like a BIG mobile phone turned on its side wi' pictures on it.:music8:

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And rightly so, The OSC is about making matchday better for the fans and has been money definitely well spent!

Not sure a big screen would be next on my list although I'll be buying a few raffle tickets to support it!

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I'm really worried, I've agreed with Cashy on another thread & about to agree with Baldy for the second time within a week!! :) I'm not sure either that a multi media display thingamajig would be high up on my priorities & think maybe other stuff might be needed first but of course will do my bit towards it by buying tickets

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With a big display and stand sponsors are people not worried were gonna become abit commercialised

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Its commercialized that earns money usually.:rolleyes:

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Does 40k not seem a bit steep for what it is?:confused:

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just can,t really the see the point of it as there could be better ways of spending the money but will support it if the majority want it.

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I read on this thread that folks, although supporting the idea of a screen, think money could be spent better elsewhere. The only thing is, they don't say where. I know someone mentioned the changing rooms and that was explained by the fact that they were part of the bigger picture in the redevelopment of the Wham. Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't go in the new Whinney Hill stand (when it is built). On a personal note, I think the big screen idea is a good one but could well be a 2 year project. But, for my two penneth, if you want the money to go elsewhere, join the supporters club and air your views.:)

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if someone can come up with a better idea on how to spend 40 grand on the club to improve attendances at the club i,d like to hear them. i personally don,t use the fanzone but can see the point of it for some. as for the screen probebly a good idea if the wham was the finished product but for me its like spending money decorating your house when you,ve a hole in the roof.

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Just off the top of my head, The Sports Bar needs work doing on it, Mould on the wall where we have the projector screen on the wall, Not just on match days but would you have a birthday party there in that state?...Maybe someone on here knows the plans Andy has to redevelop the main stand, maybe this is in his plans already?

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I won't swear to this, but I'm sure I saw somewhere that William Dyer (sponsor of one of the stands) has started doing up the sports bar. No doubt someone will correct me if I am wrong.

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I would have thought that the priority at the moment would be to update the club website and app to allow fans, Home and away buy their tickets online and maybe allow them to be printed off at home if required. I would market the club to the widest audience possible using every means affordable. The screen is a good idea for later on. We need to increase attendances first to establish a bigger and more solid base. The club seems to be losing its community feeling and is simply money oriented. I think it is time to rethink some strategies.

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only thing that worries me is andy holt is putting all this energy and money into stanley but is getting no return by getting extra fans to come to games. hope he will not get fed up by all this and walks away due to lack of support.

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I would have to agree in the grand scheme of things we have 500 things that needed to be done at the Ground.

Surely this is job number 498?!

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You are correct.... ish :)

WM Dyer help out Reds ? Accrington Stanley FC

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i think that work was done before the burnley game

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ew JB Stand improvements to incorporate changing rooms, function rooms, bars, catering, turnstiles, TOILET facilities etc.

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Utter rubbish


The club is trying to live within its means

Any extra revenue is being invested in the playing budget

You have absolutely no evidence to support your horrible accusation that there is a loss of community feeling

The club has never been this good

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Mr Holt stated any moneys gained from our cup run would be put in to ground improvments http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A7x9U...ykxRJiTHU7UcQ- ACCRINGTON Stanley’s EFL Cup run - which continues with a third round tie against West Ham tomorrow - will allow owner Andy Holt to reinvest the profits in further work at the Wham Stadium.
A number of improvements were carried out at the ground over the summer and Holt plans to use the money made from their cup heroics this season to continue with the work as he looks to make matchday a more enjoyable experience for Reds fans.

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I think you mean to say that the club is living within Andy Holt's means

Not according to Andy Holt himself. Read mab's quote. I would have thought that as the soi-disant fans' liaison officer, you would have known this.

Well Chrisr thinks that there is so there are at least two of us. My evidence is circumstantial. I could refer to the decline in forum posts by some of those who posted regularly until about a year ago. I could refer to conversations I have had (both in person and on line) with some supporters. But a specific question for you. From your exalted (but entirely mythical) position as fans' liaison officer, can you tell us if there have been any changes in the board of directors?

Furthermore, as you rarely comment on the actual games, I continue to speculate on how many you actually attend.

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Not sure what sharing info on Twitter has to do with losing community spirit?

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Not hard, many people dont use titter, the fishy site is the obvious place for any announcements, thought even you would twig that.:D

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Haha haha

Because the club has a more streamline board of directors in keeping with 99% of other clubs it has somehow lost its community connection??

You are really scrapping the bottom of the barrel

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Well we lost the fans director, but that obviously dont count to the illiterate.with NO explanation as to why.:rolleyes: You pretending yer a fans rep is pathetic imho

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A few years ago I bought a big screen for the house. Community spirit was lost immediately as Er Indoors insisted it went straight back to the shop.

So I'd welcome a big screen. Bigger the better.

Holt has already done a lot of the priority jobs: pitch, seats, fanzone, ticketing system, big squad. I'd not begrudge him spending his money on a big screen next.

Not sure why there needs to be a better web site. Everything is there on Twitter. It's free and easy to use and you get a hotline to Messrs burgess and holt there. A billion times better than a boring old web site.

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Its simple,many will not use twitter, cos anyone can put any old crap on, thats why info should always be put on the fishy.

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"Twitter is an online social networking service that enables users to send and read short 140-character messages called "tweets"

Surely for short, snappy communication not detailed information.

As I understand it the aim is for the OASSC to raise the money for the multi-media digital display not for Andy to foot the cost.

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Even when it comes from ASFCOfficial, burgess and Holt? That's pretty much straight from the horses mouth. They post all the stuff that goes on the website anyway.

With the added attraction of watching Mr Gornell's spat with the Cheltenham fans unfold and whatever else titilates.

I agree that Twitter is a bit weird - especially at first. I rarely post anything since I can't pack enough bull**** into one small tweet. But it is very good for gauging public opinion and I think it works really well for disseminating football club goings on. A web site has its place - but more as an occasional point of reference.

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I'd beg to differ on that. Away at Notts County I discovered, via Twitter, there was a group of Stanley fans at the other end of the train. I wandered down and indeed gave them a handshake and friendly smile. Chatted to them at half time and walked back to the station with them.

You wouldn't get that on website.

After the Wimbledon game, Fosu came across and shook my hand - having previously conversed with him on Twitter. (A long story).

Twitter isn't really for me in the way it is for enthusiastic users. They have thousands of mates and I have about six. But I don't see the difference in opening Twitter and getting direct and very recent Stanley info rather (and being able to interact if you want) versus opening a web browser and looking at the web site. It's just an app with stuff typed on the screen.

On the otherhand, I would agree that something like information about how to buy season tickets or coach travel, the fixture list etc should be on the web site.

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correct on both counts. That's why announcements ARE made on the website, in addition to Twitter, in addition to Facebook.

Not correct. Anybody can put any old crap on THEIR OWN profile just like they currently do on this forum. Twitter is a dumbed down version of forums.


Just like Lord Didsbury, I am not a fan of twitter as it is unameniable to decasyllabic warblings.

But, to the old farts such as Cashman (yer own words) here is how it works;

Andy Holt wants to gossip, or share an update of works, or share an aerial view of the ground that someone has done with a drone, etc etc

"look at this" he tweets ... (max 140 characters)

That then goes out to everyone who has 'followed' him (currently 1335 people)

1335 people see that tweet, and if there is something likeable they will retweet it to all their followers ... so @asfcofficial then forwards the message to 40,000 followers, @officialassc forwards it to 316 followers, @murraydawsonSDA forwards it to 718 followers, @RobRuss forwards it 21 followers etc etc

In theory it is the fastest way of getting information around a large group of people.

Here's how a website works

The silver haired surfer has to want to take a look at a particular website, he/she either clicks the bookmark on their device, or manually types in some stuff. He/she arrives at said website and then navigates their way around looking for something new to crop up. Having already checked the website this morning I'll not be doing so again today.

In all honesty I rarely check the website at all anymore. I go on to find the matchday commentary and sometimes have a quick shufty around whilst there. Other than that I only check in when something on twitter or facebook prompts me to click the link and check out the full story.

So in short, Twitter or facebook has now become the digital age billboard directing you to the newspaper - or website.

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Obviously there's a place/need/demand - whatever you want to call it for Twitter & Facebook, but there's also a need for information to be got out there to whoever needs to know - I must be one of the 'old farts' Rob cos I've not yet got into twittering :) - & I like to be kept informed from the fishy site as much as possible.
Even that sometimes isn't enough as per the reduced price structure for Saturday's game - some stuff needs to be put out into the local press/radio for those who have no interweb access at all - imho there can never be too many avenues for that info to make sure it gets to as many folk as possible

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its ideal for titbits Diane.

The website would look daft if it carried a story such as "drawing up plans today" then followed it up with "plans put in folder and on their way to planning", and then "ooh planning looking at our scribbles now"

There aren't enough characters available on twitter to flesh anything out at all, but you can put a bit of sauce onto any old story.

The website also needs someone with the necessary nous to put the story on, twitter can be done by anyone, on any device, whilst sat on the bog

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Exactly, there's a different need for each source of info - probably best to dabble with all of 'em to get the better picture . . . . . . . although I think your last bit about twittering whilst on the loo is a picture I'd rather not have in my head :)

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Thanks Rob, that does make sense, though I still won't be playing. Presumably if I followed @AndyHolt and @asfcofficial and @officialassc and @RobRuss :) my smartphone would go off 4 times in about 10 minutes :eek: with the same bit of info (if I had a smartphone that is)?

You've also made me wonder why at least 38600 people who never turn up at the Crown follow @asfcofficial :confused:

:D

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although that mightn't be the best analogy Diane, it does indirectly get to the point.

This day and age information has to be portable, quick, and direct. Pretty much everyone from my age (39) down spends an awful lot of time on their portable device. A large percent of people in the next ten years upwards spends a goodly amount of time on their device. If it's a handheld device you don't want to be spending time scrolling through information, you don't want to be reading heavy amounts of text based stuff. What you do want is a one touch motion (click the app), and then to just swipe down to see what's been said in the last 20 minutes since you last looked.

It's been proven that people these days have less capacity for remembering actual details, but they have a far greater capacity for remembering where they can retrieve those details from. It doesn't make sense but there you have it. Apparently the digital age inhabitants find it easier to remember that "LadBible" said who won the 1980 Fa Cup (and then click their profile and scroll through to the post) than to actually remember "West Ham"

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And now you've explained why UK productivity is so low ......

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lol

no your phone wouldn't keep beeping Chimer, but folk tend to keep checking in and they will see the same post 4 times - so you get the subliminal advertising (advertising industry reckons the average person needs to see something 7 times before it sinks in)

38600 indeed. There'll be folk from all walks of life following the club, scouts, journalists, fans of other clubs noseying etc but there are still tens of thousands of people who have some kind of interest in the club. Presumably the type of people who follow the club for reasons other than fandom will also follow other clubs so here's a quick rundown on other clubs

Morecambe 21k followers
Bury 38k
Rochdale 31.7k
Newport County 32.9k
Yeovil 32.6k
York City 34.9k

There are obviously other similar sized clubs with more such as Fleetwood with 44k but we do pretty good with it. Messages get out there and it's a useful tool for showing affiliation with local businesses. The silly example I used earlier with drawing up plans might include such wording as "plans as the way now via @MaxCabs" "plans now arrived at @RolfHarrisArchitects" etc. MaxCabs and Rolf Harris Architects would then be retweeting their proud association with the club so their followers would then realise what a good business they were as they were the chosen supplier/operator/serviceprovider for an illustrious outfit such as us :)

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correct again, I should have been at work an hour ago :do-one::do-one:

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I look a couple of times a day....press a button...oh look, there's a little blue dot. There must be some essential news to see....swipe my finger down the screen and find a picture of some bloke on the top of the Eiger in a Stanley scarf, Dean Winnard's had a new baby and Andy Holt busy fitting a new hand bidet in the gents toilets.

How can you not want a bit of that?

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For the avoidance of doubt, I'm only on here now myself 'cos I'm retired :D

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That was me last night. I had a kip after tea, woke up, walked the dog (to the back garden) then I was re-tired again :-(

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Can someone explain the loss of community feel?

So far. No evidence has been provided.

I dont wish to upset anyone, but you need to have a bit of evidence if your going to make such accusations

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Deano certainly was a 'versatile' player when he was at the Stanley but I didn't think he was that versatile!;)

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I'm with those who ARE on Twitter. I too am retired and I suppose one of those persons who are usually typified as being ignorant of new technology. Not a bit of it. I have a brand new mobile phone with 4G technology and regularly keep up to date with events at the Wham via #AndyHolt and #OASSC. But on the other hand, I also agree with Cashy and others who say information should be put on the Official Web Site. After all, to quote Jeremy Clarkson "How hard can it be?". If someone has the time to tweet, then surely they must have time to put a few words on the website, even if it is put in a sub heading of ground improvements!

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I also am on twitter, rarely if ever tweet, but the point is many aint.:)

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not everybody has the capability to update a website though Nigel. People are mixing up Andy Holt with ASFC. Andy posts a lot of stuff about himself, Wham AND the club. It's random, it's brief and it's frequent. I can't think of anything particular that has been posted on twitter that doesn't go onto the website.

One answer may be to have a twitter feed posting live onto the front page of the website, but that surely couldn't happen as then we come back to Cashman and his "anybody can post any old crap". An away fan could tag the club and then troll the website with profanities.

So then it would be just the club posting tweets on its own website, that it then updates with the same news a few inches to the left of it :confused:

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Most of twitter is crap simple as, its about club information should be put on website nowt else.

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The Twitter feed is shown on the main website at the bottom

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Big screen update latest?

https://twitter.com/tifosy/status/801755451717193728

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Really don't see this as an update

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Oldham Athletic used the same format for something and it raised £13k

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Sorry - think I've misunderstood. Is it not to do with the big screen?

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I think we need a left sided player before a multi-media display.

Is this what we are crowd funding?

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Yes.

From what I understand of it Tifosy is a fan organisation that runs a website designed purely for fundraising. Their target market is not the localised one that the OASSC can reach by themselves, but rather a national or international market that otherwise may not know what is going on.

From what I can gather there is little or nothing lost in this venture so any money is raised is money we wouldnt otherwise have had.

I've got to add a footnote here, I've been well impressed with the way the supporters club has gobe about it's business in recent years. They set a target of something substantial and then set about achieving that figure. The 25k for the changing rooms, that became the Fanzone, and now this.

I agree with those who say we dont need a screen of that magnitude, but regardless ... build the new ground around it :p

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Eastleigh have a big media screen cost them 20k

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Great new video. Apologies if it's already been posted

https://www.tifosy.com/en/campaigns/...anley#campaign

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I use social media quite a lot. Twitter, instagram, facebook, The site is a place for the proper statements on club issues. social media is very easily misinterpreted and it is a terrible job trying to correct rumours at times. The club site should have the capability to sell tickets properly to home and away fans with the ability to change seats if you wish to bring a friend along. That is a debate that is ongoing. A proper company could put a system in that is connected to the Stanley site which would make life a lot easier for people to buy a ticket to the match. I was proud to see the British legion in attendance for the remembrance of the Somme and the great wars. Davo might be able to help here. What do we as a club do for veterans or injured service personnel from the clubs perspective. I think you will find the answer is FA. I have felt that the focus of the club is simply money. I know the club needs money but it also needs bums on seats. I remember when unemployed and disabled got concessions to come to the match. not full price but better than nothing as the spaces were there anyway. So there is the community loss for me. If we had a full ground every home game I could understand the reluctance of the club to offer any sort of reductions for different categories. It seems the same lame excuse put out by the FA is that each club can make it's own rules on these issues which is good. It becomes bad when the FA statements are used as an excuse to remove these concessions. it would have cost the club nothing in real terms but it has shown us as a club that simply want to play in the big leagues at any price.
The big screen does pose a problem, As I understand it the proposal is to site the screen on top of the cabin in the corner. I also was under the impression this cabin has only got a temporary planning permission. That could be a problem. Maybe the good old FA would consider a donation to the screen if it was to be used as Goal line technology perhaps. Has anybody asked? I noticed there seems to be plenty of spaces reappearing in the ground again. This is the biggest problem the club has. Disenfranchising different groups of people has not helped. People may argue that has not made any difference. I think it has. So when Davo gets on his defensive rant he should seriously consider posting some positive ideas for discussion. I know many supporters that used to go to the OASSC who have simply given up as they felt it was not performing the function expected and had become clicky. I gave up going for other reasons. Many people go to the matches at home and are not enthused to spend that bit more. The fanzone has been a good idea put into action. What is the average gate this season compared to last? If it is the same or less then we are going backwards. the club has to take steps to be seen to more inclusive. I find the Fans at Stanley amongst the most friendly anywhere yet people come once or twice and don't come back. Why? maybe we should hand out customer satisfaction slips and ask them why. Is it the price, the experience, the team performance, or other reasons. This is the basic information we need from the customer. Once armed with that information we could formulate a plan. We are an internationally recognised brand and yet we are struggling in the bottom league. Perhaps ask via the local press as well other media sources. Accrington Stanley needs to be seen as club that cares for all the community.

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Maybe worth looking at the Dingles average attendance over time. It ranges from 3,200 in 1996 to 30,000.
I don't know what loyalty schemes they had in place, but there was one factor which might explain it. 30,000 when they won the league 3,200 when bottom of the 4th division.

All the club can do it make improvements all round (like it is doing) and gradually move up the league (like it has done). A big screen, the fanzone, new seats, an owner spending some cash....as long as it continues I wouldn't panic.

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While your stats are correct other than it was mid 80s, they are very selective. They have averaged over 10000 every season since 1997 and all but once since 1992.

There were 2 seasons in the 3000s an 1 in the 4000s since 1907 or there abouts so not a great comparison. Plus they took 35000 to Wembley in 1988 for the Sherpa Van final

England historical attendance and performance

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burnley have always had a larger fan base than stanley and always will have. when people go on about them being a small town club they don,t realise the number of fans they get from outside the town. colne, nelson, the calder valley, skipton and even keighley have numerous fans from these areas. it will take years to increase our fan base without any success on the pitch as 40 odd years without a league club has forced generations of fans to look elsewhere for their football. fanzones and big screens will help the so called matchday experiance but will never double our gates as that is what we need.

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They have some digital displays on offer in B&M for £9.99

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Presume you will donate it to the club??

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https://twitter.com/asfcofficial/sta...28390894030848

Should be able to shift a few of these tickets!

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what would fans think on adding £20 or £25 to this years season ticket price which would raise an extra £12000 to 15000 towards the up in light campaign

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'what would fans think on adding £20 or £25 to this years season ticket price which would raise an extra £12000 to 15000 towards the up in light campaign'

I'd pay it to ensure league survival.

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Boro had to upgrade as part of tv requirements for this season. Part of it was round the ground media displays. Right round the ground advertising etc with a small set on the inside looking into stands. Then another full set down the whole length between the tiers on west stand. Can be very distracting with sudden colour changes and the scoreboard above the away end flashing adverts. Add to that the dancing fllodlights before kick off, good job not epelectic.

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They'll be making the fans wear sandwich boards next.

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Digitally lit ones, of course!;)

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An update on this, which sounds like good news :)

#UpInLights statement ? Accrington Stanley


:) :) :)

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So, it's only going to cost £30K and there's only another £2K to raise and we'll be able to watch Sean's wonder goals "up in lights".
Marvellous.

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How far are we towards the target?

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93% apparently

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94% now.
C'mon, lads and lasses, have a look down the back of the sofa and get this done.

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As it stands.....

https://www.tifosy.com/en/campaigns/...anley#campaign

£500.00 already pledged for the auctions, so that leaves £727.00 :)

Cannot see that being raised in the next few days :)

:) :) :)

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Do we really need a big screen it's just another bill going out the club, surely the money could be better spent on improving the facility's we have already maybe even give the away fans proper toilets

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I think the idea is that it will generate income from advertising.

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From memory the advertising space they are selling on it would raise £11k per season.

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Would that offset the leccy bill and maintenance for it?

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is that in hope or have deals been done provisionally.

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I dont know to be honest. I'm sure that some of the advertising space is sold as a result of the fundraising campaign but the OASSC had a business breakfast launch for the screen where over 40 local companies were in attendance. Feedback was positive I'm led to believe.

I'll be honest, I'm not a lover of this idea, and neither was I keen on the Changing Room campaign - neither seem like Supporters Club business. But, I keep saying that unless you're willing to attend meetings and have an input (and actually help out with the ideas you put forward) then it's difficult to complain afterwards.

Whether we agree with the root source of the campaign, there is no denying that it has been a mega spectacular success. To anyone who has looked at the Tifosi site you will constantly see reminders of it wherever you go on the Internet. In terms of advertising and in your face marketing it has been huge. It has also reached out to local business in a way that (from what I can see) the club hasn't been able to. It has offered affordable advertising whereas the club offers either expensive advertising or cheapo hospitality. To the fans it has offered rarities such as signing a pro contract, get on the team picture and other such one-offs that will provide life long memories and help to cement the winners love for the club.

The OASSC think big these days, the campaign is predicted to reach its' target by virtue of £12k raised at the Sportsmans Dinner (April 29th) and £5k from a golf day. This is good money and these events should be run every single season if they can raise those sort of figures. After stepping down as Chair of the Supporters Club a few years ago, I kinda thought that it had outlived its use and was destined for the scrapper. The original purpose of the Supportes Club was to be able to pay players wages in the event of the club being unable to, there was no chance of that in this day and age - but maybe it possibly could?

Last years target was £25k, this years £40k ... where will it end and what could it fund?

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Last years target was £25k, this years £40k ... where will it end and what could it fund?[/QUOTE]

one thing about stanley fans is that they,re not frightened to put their hands in their pockets for the club. i imagine a lot of other clubs with higher gates are envious of us. we might disagree on a lot of things but most will rally round.

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We have reached the target we will have a big screen

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....and WELL DONE to the O.A.S.S.C. for all their hard work and ALL OF THE STANLEY FANS who have contributed.......:worthy::worthy::worthy:
SIMPLY MAGNIFICENT EVERONE!:alright:

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oops...... Y ..... added

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Excellent news

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Would we need planning permission for something like this due to the houses near by?