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Half time 1-0 for Stanley and Luton Exeter Mansfield Notts County and Wycombe drawing, doesn't get much better.

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&^^&*^%#*(&*%)*&%*^%^$(&* . 1-1

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Yessssss

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And 3 !!!!!!!!!!!!! I love this game.

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Thank you Newport. :) Oh what a wonderful day.

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Made your day John !... KTF !

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Finals Luton, Notts, Mansfield all draw and Exeter loose, what a great set of results. Three points clear and a game in hand.

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Game in hand on second AND third sounds even better.:DWe coulda come unstuck today i thought, too many balls played in the air with a ferocious wind, but 2 superb goals at the end stopped that.

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I reckon 8 points from the last 9 games will do it now. The chasing pack seem to pose no threat at all.

Today Stanley looked uncertain of themselves until there was no option but to attack. Then it was magic stuff.

Clark would have been MOTM even without his wonder goal. Billy had a very good game. Chappers looked too hesitant. Was he at fault for their goal?

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Johnson also had a good un as did Sean Mac, will have to watch the goal tonight fer them i couldn't see well for it.

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3pts, top of the league, game in hand. 2313 on the ground today. Also winners hour.

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Also mostly Stanley fans, think forest green only brought about 150. 2200 home fans is incredible compared to our usual.

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Thrilled with Clark's goal. He had made some good runs before that and was rightly man of the match. Felt we didn't look under threat from the greens after scoring early apart from there left winger skinning Johnson regularly. Second half the vegans scored when they had a good spell. But we showed the Accrington grit of this crop of 2018 to get the win. Agree with lord didsbury regards kee being at his best holding ball up and spreading play and regards Jordan Clark. As well as being thrilled with the 3 points, am pleased we delivered in front of a large crowd (admittedly it was proper cold) hopefully to entice some of them back in the future. I think 4 wins (12 points) from are 9 games will ensure promotion. I still think there could be choppy waters before promotion is sealed with our run in from here.

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I know it sounds silly but I think we scored too early and with the added pressure of being the top of the league we allowed them to play but we defend well this season and I never thought we would lose and once Jorden scored the nerves settled and there was only 1 winner if there had been longer left I think we would have scored a hatfull it's about keeping our nerve now and a top 3 finish will be ours.

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'There is a tide in the affairs of men.
Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune'

Today, that tide turned powerfully in favour of Stanley.
Anyone not present today may assume the final score predictable for a team of strugglers playing the league leaders.
How wrong they would be!
After taking a 3 minute lead, it looked like Stanley would make mincemeat of the Vegan newcomers.
Far from rolling over, the eco-warriors slowly began to dominate possession with some impressive slick passing.
The second half saw us pinned back for long periods, culminating in a deserved equaliser for FGR on 64 minutes.
Last season, this was a game we would have probably gone on to lose - but that was then & this is now!
As others with sights on winning promotion have discovered, this Stanley team are made of sterner stuff.
Just when it looked like a draw would be something of a blessed relief, up stepped Jordan Clark to save the day.
Winning the ball in our own half, he danced down the wing, waltzed passed the FGR defence & scored what must be the goal of his career to restore Stanley's 3 point lead at the top.
The jolly green giants re-doubled their efforts & it proved another nail-biting 11 minutes before Jackson took his one opportunity to lob Collins & put the result beyond doubt.
Clark brought home the bacon today!
Salad days indeed for Accrington Stanley.

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WAH HEY!:mosher:
Channel 5 presenters just followed my 'MESSI' quote on Football on 5 :tongueout
It certainly was a great goal and looked just as good on the TV:notworthy
Well done Jordan and THE STANLEY!:theband::jimbo:

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Don't know about MESSY looked quite good to me.

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Well for my two'penneth. I thought VGU had too much of the ball after we scored early doors. Albeit, they seemed frightened to attack and always seemed to be going backwards, however, after they equalised, there seemed to be one team on the ball, so to speak. Step forward Jordan Clark, superb! Then Kayden does what I thought a few others might have tried to do, and lobbed the keeper. Sean unlucky not to get a 4th goal direct from a corner as well. Overall, a satisfying result, just hope for warmer weather soon. Total brass monkeys today.

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To be fair, I thought 3 - 1 flattered us a little - Forest Green played some good football as they did at their place earlier in the season & I really hope they stay up.
That said, Jordan & Kayden's goals were each worthy match winners - well played lads & with other results going our way, we dare to dream this could just be our time - COYR!!!

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forest green reminded me of crewe a few weeks ago. plenty of the ball but never really looked like scoring until they did. was not worried though as this is a different stanley side than in recent years where we seem to find an extra gear and finish games strongly. hope those who were froze to death will come back again as i,m sure they got value for money yesterday afternoon. thought jordan clarke had his best 90 mins for us as sometimes he starts games slowly or fades in the second half. man of the match apart from another goal of the season contender.

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My salad days, / When I was green in judgment, cold in blood...

The Bard seems to be an appropriate muse at this tide in the affairs of our young men methinks Lord S !.

However, whilst our team appear to be cold in blood these days as they see off their protagonists one after another, none could accuse them of being green in judgement !.
Their leaders seem in fact to show all the judgement necessary to lead the club to greatness !.

All the world's a stage !.

KTF !

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Eventful day all round.
Had to have a £1 special in the club with Jord after that display.
Turned out to be a bad move !
Took 3 hours to get home across the 62 and car abandoned a mile from home so safe to say a game I wont forget in a hurry.
Jordan has that in his locker.
He's scored some great goals over the years but that's up there.
You've got to say though that if it was the other way round we'd be asking why a defender didn't take him out ...........
This team is full of unsung heroes.
No time for MOM awards right now - it's the collective that counts.
A good rest now - contrary to popular belief I think the Yeovil postponement is a blessing - because a few lads carrying knocks and Kayden's groin pull needs managing. We need everybody fit and available.

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do not understand this shakespeare stuff. raymond chandlers mean streets of accrington where the cold rolls in from pendle hill to make an eskimo wince will do for me.

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What’s also very nice is that no one has moaned about a referee now for exactly 14 games.
Can’t believe how quickly the standards must have improved.

(And whilst I’m in mischief mode, where is Chrisr to tell us the benefits of a rotation policy?)

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Well lets be honest though jacko scored a good goal at the death, with a groin injury he shoulda been rested surely?

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I don't disagree cashy but it got me thinking who have we got as an alternative up front, looked on fishy and Zanzala seems to be the option to Jackson

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To me its more important that jacko is 100% fit, he sure didn't look so yesterday?

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Hughes had one of those bits of physio tape on his hamstring too. Looked ok to me.

Coley has made two substitutions in the last 7 games, the starting 11 has been largely unchanged for last five I think. That’s proper old school that is. Reminiscent of Leeds when Mick Bates was lone sub for 13 years and only came on twice (or whatever).

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Did Jacko look ok to you? The lads like lightening wasn't yesterday!

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Beg to disagree;

A comment about refereeing was expressed after the Cambridge match, just four games ago, by Lord Stiff Upper Lip, about poor refereeing which actually worked to our advantage in Jackson's goal.
Also there was quite a controversy and difference of opinion expressed on this forum after the Swindon match just eight matches ago!
(I didn't look back any further!)........Fourteen matches?

On Saturday v Forest Green Rovers, as I commented in my post match observations, both teams went all out to play good football. The result was a very entertaining match and only 18 free kick's awarded and no yellow cards. The match included good refereeing ....yes, but his job was made much easier by two teams fully committed to playing to the rules and not to play acting and rough house tactics etc!

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It's hard to put forward a case for better use of available subs when your 3 points clear at the top with a game in hand, but I can't help playing devil's advocate.
For the Prosecution; Jackson clearly not 100% & looking out on his feet after 60 minutes. Meanwhile, striker Zinzala remains unused.
Defence: Jackson scores a goal in the 92nd minute.
Prosecution; Johnson has a nightmare against FGR's left winger, who beats him time & again to create some of their most dangerous attacks.
Meanwhile, Big Ben & Harvey Rodgers warm the bench.
Defence; Johnson scores a goal within 3 minutes.

To sub or not to sub - that is the question?
Members of the jury, I rest my case.

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For my money Jacko is one of our best young signings, he was not clearly fit, a groin can give you grief no question at all, So WHY not rest him and let him recover, Playing him whilst injured in the long run could cost us good money if he carries on progressing, so why the hell do it?:confused:

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The benefit is not playing your best striker with a groin strain. I can't understand why the don has not gor MOM more in this season. He was a powerhouse in defence yesterday as were others but he stood out for me.
I have to say FGR played better than their position in the league says. But the league does not lie.

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Forest Greens recent form Chris is actually better than Lutons, I read that pre sats game, which is why i commented on 1 thread i thought it would be harder than the sat before away at Luton. as i didn't go to luton this year i can't say it was really, but it was a hard match.

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a like for like substitution is something needed for me. no one is getting any game time whatsoever at the moment apart from the starting 11. at some point in the run in we are going to get injuries and the players who replace em may take a while to bed in.

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Maybe because he doesn't trust the lad(s) that he would bring in ?

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So whats your solution? make the lads injury worse?

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If he doesn't trust em, why did he sign em?

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I didn't think that anything looked wrong with Jackson at the time, I thought he was quiet due to FG having a lot of possession, but maybe you are right.

Callum Johnson had a hard time, but presumably you need to have some difficult afternoons in order to learn. I didn't think he had a nightmare though.

Hard to know what to do re subs when all is going well. It's a shame we don't tend to go 3-0 up after an hour - bringing on subs then would be so much easier.

(Whenever the opposition bring on a sub I'm always rather pleased. Usually it means they are putting a worse player than the one going off and just hoping for the best.)

I don't think we need to overly worry. The subs will still have a high level of fitness -
it's not like they've been out injured - Nolan, Rogers, Big Ben and Sousa should be able to slot in easily enough, Johnson and the Don seem fairly versatile.

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He was much slower than his usual self, many commented on that round us.:confused:

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Sorry Lord D! Can't agree with you on that.
Callum Johnson is a cultured young midfielder who's steadily improved since his debut.
I've been the first to praise some of his recent performances as 'Outstanding!'
However, in the role of right-back on Saturday, he looked lightweight against a quick & skilful winger.
Callum is creative & great in attack, especially overlapping down the wing.
But when it comes to stopping opposing forwards, give me Ben Richards Everton any day.

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I agree with you Lord Stiffupperlip about Callum Johnson.
:jimbo: He had a dodgy time in his first couple of matches but then got 'Up to Speed' and he has been really good since. On Saturday he was up against Forest Green's best player in their No 17. Callum got properly 'skinned' once, early on in the match, but with the help of Clarke, Brown and Coneely, who tried to get in front of Callum and close the winger down, he then did pretty well. I was well pleased for the lad when he got on the score sheet which will give him even more confidence for the big matches to come.:alright:
Regarding the 'Subs' I think that they will be as 'Fit as Butcher's Dogs' and will be 100% ready to play their part if someone gets injured or reaches the points total for a suspension! (Hopefully not!)
A couple of weeks without a competitive match could be good for Kayden Jackson to get some intense treatment, and possibly one or two others who may well be carrying little niggles.
I too have been really impressed with Big Ben earlier in the season but I can see how difficult it would be for the Management to change the 'Winning Eleven'.
Let's trust in John and Jimmy.
ON STANLEY ON:jimbo:

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It’s not for me to create a solution I was just putting it out there.
What’s your take on why he doesn’t use them ?

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Good question. The name Edwards comes to Mind. What’s your explanation then ?

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I don't have one!
Only John Coleman can answer that question & I'm no mind reader.
It was you who suggested the reason JC is reluctant to use subs is because he doesn't trust them?
So Richards-Everton, Harvey Rodgers, Liam Nolan, Sousa, Zanzala etc. are untrustworthy?
Modern football has become a squad based game & the best managers are skilled at using subs to maximum effect.
On the rare occasion we make a substitution, it's usually because a player's received a crippling injury - or we're losing the match with only 2 minutes remaining.
I believe we've got real talent sitting unused on our bench.
Players who deserve more opportunity than they currently receive.
But then, I'm not a manager with a team sitting at the top of the table!

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There's a good ten minutes' worth of highlights on FGR's YouTube page:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9h...KontGqMaakP-Fw

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Modern football might have become a squad based system but that doesn’t mean it’s the best way to achieve success. Where’s the evidence that rotating teams and making loads of subs pays off, and why?

I’m not arguing against this, by the way, just really curious.

There’s a lot of hocus pocus in sport.

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My take is its a very poor way of doing things simple as. putting a player in a position that can make an injury worse,

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[QUOTE=Lord Stiffupperlip;1210544]
Modern football has become a squad based game & the best managers are skilled at using subs to maximum effect.
On the rare occasion we make a substitution, it's usually because a player's received a crippling injury - or we're losing the match with only 2 minutes remaining.
I believe we've got real talent sitting unused on our bench.


if our management team have a problem its regarding substitutions. been made in the past and have not helped so we end up with them only happening as you state. we did not need to change the formation we used on saturday but a like for like substitution would have helped.

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I suggested nothing. I asked a question. That's why there's a question mark at the end of it.
I cannot give an answer the same as you. I'm not Coley. However whatever his reasoning - its working.

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It is working, but if it happens to be,to the detriment of a young player, then that happens to matter to me.

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Cashy,
I'm sure Kayden will have been asked how he felt before the game and will have been monitored closely in training.
Risk against reward.
Jordan was desperate to play not so long ago but the back room staff got him to sit the game out and it did him the world of good.
Maybe if we get well ahead in a game he'll change things but every game has been tight of late and the starting 11 are doing the business.

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Quite possibly, but surely when its so obvious then should have been told the same as Jordon?

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Goal scorers are gold dust especially at the business end of the season. Risk and reward - plus a nice break now.

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My take on Jackson is that he, and the medical staff, will have been consulted and the consensus was that he was 95% fit. He was probably told to just be wary of it and only put the burners on if necessary. I cant remember too many times when he had opportunity to really go after them. A 70% fit Jackson is better than the options.

Regards substitutions, Coley was asked before christmas at an OASSC qna why he doesnt use them. His answer was along the lines of he doesnt change things unless he thinks it absolutely necessary. Sometimes we think that a change is necessary but he sees it differently and would rather allow a player, who isnt quite performing, to learn and rectify whats missing in his game.

Whilst I dont necessarily agree with the logic, i cant argue with the results. Coley has consistently over acheived with what is at his disposal. He IS able to polish a turd and it has been shown over and over again over the past 19 years. Players play for Coley because they are allowed to. We get the best out of them then they go elsewhere and usually fail