January transfer window.
 

Just a thread to get people's thoughts on what we need who will stay loan wise and rumours anybody as heard. I,ll start off with Liam Gibson left back fron Newcastle United just a rumour.

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got a feeling that all the loanees will go back for one reason or another but i,m sure coley will have a few unpolished gems lines up to replace them.

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Just read in tonight's Telegraph that Dan Barlazer is set to sign up to extend his loan until the end of the season, it says Newcastle are happy with his development while he's been here & think he'll benefit most by having another 6 months of first team football, good news indeed :)

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So really it’s just Anderton and Ikekwe we need to worry about now? Anderton staying would be a great boost.

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I believe Portsmouth set to sign Ikekwe and Anderton back to Blackpool.

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When do the half season loan deals run out?

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Just read Newcastle are happy to let Charman stay as well if we want him.

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Interesting as where all this information is coming from??

Charman is already on a season long loan!!

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IMHO We also need to keep Michael Ihiekwe just as much as we need to keep Anderton.....and Barlaser too. All three have been regular first choices since settling in and any one of them would be a big loss to the balance of the squad.:jimbo::jimbo::jimbo:

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I understand he’s already returned to his parent club.

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Gibson a good shout.

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Anderton will be a big loss. He is a good player. We have some good players out on loan who can be recalled. If they get a game when recalled is the big question.

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Up to today I would have agreed but he looked either completely out of his depth or like he'd just got the news that he's returning to Blackpool tomorrow & didn't really want to be here, whatever the reason he wasn't a shade of the player he's been up to now

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Well if that were the case IMHO he shouldn't have been in the 18.

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How did you miss info. from Mr. T #8?

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If I’m wrong I’m wrong.
Let’s see.

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Mark Hughes made at least three bad mistakes in the first half, unusual for Mark, Anderton was given the ball too late to do much with it and was under constant pressure. Their No 10 was a complete handful all the game. We had not got any answers. Why have we got such good players sat on the bench? Coley leaves his subs far too late for me. We had player on the bench yesterday who I believe could have made a big difference. Erico Suisa was on the bench, Why? good players know there is little point in coming to Accy as they will be bench warmers.

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Sorry Chris, have to disagree on some points - Any mistakes made by Mark Hughes were due to him having to cover for Nick Anderton who, uncharacteristically, was anywhere but where he should have been, certainly in the first half. For long periods he didn't even make an effort to mark Ivan Toney & you can't let a player like that just roam free.
You think Sousa could have made a difference, really? The lad tried when he came on but he's too easily knocked off the ball, far too lightweight for a game like yesterday's. Zanzala made a difference by running at their defense & making a nuisance of himself.
I do agree we could do with making subs a but earlier in some games but who would you have used yesterday? Maybe Piero instead of Sousa, but of the others??

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Hughes distribution has always been poor, but yesterday the stuff hes good at were also missing. in fact 99% of em were not at the races, i can handle us losing if a gallant effort has been made, but the first 45 mins NOTHING worth shouting about, better when we played 2 upfront in second half, but punished on the break, which wouldn't have occurred i think had we started 2 strikers, maybe our show would have been a bit better.,

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One up front at home BULLSHINE

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I couldn’t disgree more about Hughes distribution being poor I think it’s excellent for a League One centre back

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Believe Preston trying to sign Connor Ripley and Callum Johnson.

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Fair enough, watch him passing and then come to a view.

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I watch him passing every week

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so do i so we will have to differ then.:)

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Can't agree with you on that one Cashy. Mark Hughes always gives 100%, he should without any doubt be the team captain. The blame for Saturdays fiasco should be laid firmly at the management's doorstep for their poor team selection and taking too long in making substitutions. "Wonder boy" once again looks as much use as a chocolate teapot!

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I never said he dont give 100% read proper before opening yer gob, i said his passing is poor thats all, hes a damn good defender.:rolleyes:

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I think Hughes passing is pretty good too.
I thought he’d really struggle in this division but apart from when he’s up against a standout forward like Toney he does really well.

Sorry, Keep the Faith, got to disagree with any Sean criticism. The guy is class.

Really, the whole team is ok....we just need to have another good centre midfielder to play alongside Finley and better than Kee/Zanzala/Hall upfront. That needs either a huge slice of luck of another Coley miracle in Jan.

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It's not Sean I'm referring to Your Lordship. Sean has turned himself around to become a class act. It's the guy who gets rid of the ball either sideways or backwards as quick as he can who can't run with the ball that I'm on about!

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Bit harsh, when have we ever had a match official like that - oh, just a minute . . . . . .:rolleyes:

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Coley confirmed in his post match interview that Blackpool have recalled Nick Anderton, he wouldn't have been able to play against Ipswich anyhow & hopefully he can be replaced before the Bristol game. Or maybe, Big Ben will get another chance to shine

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Seems like we had one at Bratfud today.......hmmmm.

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Honest mate this un today made Kettle seem decent,:(

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The kid coming in from Newcastle - Gibson - will be a direct replacement. That will
explain Charman going back because you can’t have three from the same parent club.
Hall definitely going back to Bolton.
Really worried about Ihiekwe as well.
The pressure in on the Management team no doubt about that.

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Don’t speak much on here... but I’d like to think that Coley needs to be focusing more on getting on a new striker or two, particularly someone to play alongside Billy who can run off him, as he’s not good enough on his own. IMO they have never replaced Kayden and we have gone a league up! There has been many games where we have been the better side by far but just couldn’t finish.

I think the club should play the likes of Sousa and Sykes if the loanees are going back, who are one of your own and always give you 100%. They are both young and hungry to play/learn, and if you don’t play them how are they ever going to improve! They have both showed glimpses of class when they have played so we should give them a chance, as well as Mingoia and Ogle etc.

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Billy does a job for the team. But he is expected to do too much as a lone striker. He is not a runner he is a goal poacher and lay off player. We do seem to be slipping into a rut. Teams come here and suss out our strategy very quickly and we don't seem to have a plan B. We need to give some more game time to our own players who we know can do a good job. However Coley won't change his first team selection unless he absolutely has to. Maybe Kayden would re-sign for us in January for a smaller fee. I jest of course. we need some fresh legs up front Billy is not 100% and would benefit from being on the bench and used as an impact player. Ben is really a midfielder who can spread the play and score given chance. We need a way of winning.

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[QUOTE=accyfan21;1221452]IMO they have never replaced Kayden and we have gone a league up! There has been many games where we have been the better side by far but just couldn’t finish.


think we have missed kayden more than anyone else who have left us. problem is its down to money again and unless coley can pick up another gem from the leagues below or a good loanee then we,ve got what we have and have to make the most of it.

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Kayden is a massive miss, in my view, but replacing him is much easier said than done, with our resources, all we can do is take a chance on some unknown lad and cross our fingers imho

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Agree with Cashy. Huge loss but hard to replace. It’s why I think Coley playing 5 in midfield is a pretty good idea....but our 5th midfielder cannot be Conneely.

I don’t see Billy as an impact player at all. Zanzala is an impact player, so is Hall.

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Mate, Sykes needs a run now.
However where would you put Mingoia and Sousa in this side ?
Their positions aren't a problem that needs resolving.

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Does anyone feel cynical to state the obvious that when the big money for Jackson came in at least a % of that should have been reinvested in the squad ?
No point mentioning the Donacien money because I doubt we got paid a fee when it converted to a loan.

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Anderton and Platt gone back to their respective clubs no sign of any incoming yet.

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I was mainly referring to Sykes, I personally think he’s a great youngster and he works well with Hughes! He’s started 7 league games and he’s done well in each of these. If we played him he could be our next big money maker!
Sousa doesn’t get much game time, even when he comes on it’s like 15 minutes etc, but I can see your point and I would agree that what we have isn’t a problem, just thoughts of if Sean/Jordan got injured.

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I'm convinced he will be worth a mint if he carries on like he is. dont think we have a more dedicated lad at the club.

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That money i believe paid for the Wham Stadium, if thats correct, to me that came first.

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Agree, Cashy. Also hope some of it is going into the training ground.
Unless i’m not remembering correctly, I thought Jackson and Donacien didn’t go until this season had started anyway. By that time any decent strikers that Stanley could have afforded would have been snapped up.
This isn’t the first time Stanley have had to rebuild a squad twice in a season but, in this League, it seems to be proving a bit more critical.

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I can’t see any investment in permanent signings which means back to the loan system.
I would prefer it if we stuck to five which means there are 3 vacancies assuming Connor and Daniel stay.
I hope two of those are forwards.
The third the left back from Newcastle.
Time for Ben and/or Ross to step up.

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There could also be free agents out there or players coming to the end of contracts who could come for free, personally I think we need a left back striker and a solid midfield type not easily bossed off the ball.

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If we look at teams in our league who are doing well, they all have pace going forward. Selling Jackson robbed us of this and we are obviously missing that element of what made us successful last season. If I recall, Jackson signed for Ipswich on deadline day which gave Coley no time to get a replacement in.

For me, we need a forward with real pace who’s also a goal threat - easier said than done - as I think that’s a key ingredient of a playing style that suits the other players in our squad. Another Jimmy Dunne at centre half wouldn’t go amiss either! Agree with 28 that any additions of this quality to squad in this window likely to be loan signings

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Starting to worry over Ripley now.
Rumour mill saying two Championship clubs interested.
Barlaser deal done.
Roll on Feb.

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Poor Connor Hall getting grief from Bolton fans and had to issue an apology for a tweet Saturday.
Could that play in to our hands and he ends up staying ?

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has anyone else seen better in our league or the one below at his age. i know i have not.

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Very pleased we are keeping Barlaiser for the season.

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So why not jut say it, instead of talking in anagrams ?!?

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So can we confirm Platt, Hall, Anderton and Ikewhe have all gone ???

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Anderton & Platt yes, as far as I know Hall & Ihekwe haven't been confirmed as going yet - their loans are up but it said this morning Coley is still working on trying to extend them

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Agree mate, one of the ones I would have wanted to keep :)

:) :) :)

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According to the Bolton Evening News Conner Hall May be in the squad for tomorrow’s FA cup tie,So it does look as he has returned .to Bolton Wanderers
Looking glum for our front line .

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Bolton were less than pleased with the game time Connor was given.
Ihiekwe could go either way I guess.
However it seems Portsmouth want him on a permanent.

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To be honest i thought he should have had more game time,

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Just read on Rotherhams web site Ihiekwe is back at Rotherham
Decimated team for tomorrow.

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Sykes and Ben need to step up. Desperate times when andy mangan is the only other striker available.

I understand the circumstances that led to this, but need to learn the lesson of too many loans, 3 is probably around the maximum.

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Yes mate he’s back at Rotherham ....... for now.
So that’s only two remaining Ripley and Barlaser.
No point exceeding five in my humble opinion. Gibson in looks like a deal done at left back.
That leaves two vacancies.
Centre half and a centre forward ?

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For tomorrow Big Ben and Ross Sykes could fill one of those vacancies, but a centre forward is a bigger and longer term problem. Time for Mr. Mangan to show his stuff

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Happy for Big Ben &/or Ross to be included tomorrow but Mangan? Is he really our only option up front :rolleyes:

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Phil Parkinson says Conner Hall maybe coming back to Accrington but only when he’s injury concerns are over

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[QUOTE=Twenty Eight;1221577]Bolton were less than pleased with the game time Connor was given.

i guess hull weren,t rither with the lad we had from them a few years ago. a forward player who,s name i forgot.

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OK, just for you, Accymad, Sykes as centre back and Big Ben as centre forward.:eek::):rolleyes:

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Yeah :dancedog:

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Well that would make more sense than playing him at left back. Who knows at centre forward, could give it a fo with Billie and attacking midfielders bombing on...... or I would like to see him as a holding midfielder, certainly in midfield.......:alright:

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Today showed just how much skill & strength we've had warming the bench for 6 months.
So glad to see Big Ben back in the side adding his height & power to our attack.
His header proved to be the game changer enabling Billy to score the winner.
Sykes gave 101% for the team & made some superb last ditch tackles to prevent goals.
Thought even Mangan played well, forming a lively partnership up front with Kee.
Scotty Brown came on to add his terrier like qualities & help stop our midfield being overrun.
Great team selection from the Gaffer & well timed substitution.

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Not sure if we can get the loan guys back, especially the lad from Rotherham who added some pace to the defence but , if not, then surely Sykes must get a chance to establish himself at CB. He's been patient and shown whenever he's been called upon that he's a team player and very capable of handling himself at L1 level. Well deserved mom against Ipswich.
The priority in Jan is to get some help for Billy up front, we're well short of options if Hall doesn't return and Zanzala banned. Very happy to see that Barlaser is here for rest of season. I just hope that Coley can find a way to add some zip to our attack that we have lost since Jackson left.
Having said that, with regard to Jackson, he was not a threat today but have to say that Ipswich gave him very little to feed on.
Hope we can hang on to our 'better' players in this window. Clark and Finley must be under scrutiny from some of the big hitters in this league.

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Highly unusual for player contracts to expire in January mate.

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Both are under contract with a price on their heads. Everything is in Coley’s hands not the players so it’s not a case of hoping. Club is in charge.

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It's only in Coley's hands until a club meets the players' valuation which is something he has previously stressed, so as far as I'm concerned it's a case of hoping we can keep hold of our better players until at least the end of the season to help keep us in this division.

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Coleman said before the game that he was after or talking to 4 targets presumably loans we will have to be patient.

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So just set a ridiculously high price - simples !!

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I do feel for Coley when to comes to making permanent signings. He needs league one quality and even if it’s a “free” wages become an issue.
He can’t afford to rock the boat with the strong nucleus he’s got by bringing players in on better money.
For that reason he’ll stick to the loan market I’m sure where a percentage of the wages can be met by the parent club.

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Wages are governed by budget all players sign contracts as the club grows so will budgets and wages Coleman is paid to manage and produce results its up to him to steady the boat and bring in better players for this level.

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You’re missing the point mate.
The budget may allow a good recognised League One player to join - but his contract may be at a level that exceeds the current deal of our best players.
That potentially causes unrest.
I’m sure Coley has a game plan to manage the situation by using the loan market.

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[QUOTE=Twenty Eight;1221747]
He can’t afford to rock the boat with the strong nucleus he’s got by bringing players in on better money.

we got promoted and doing ok this season with a squad that all seem to get on. bring in a couple on bigger money and this could be killed overnight. we regularly beat sides who,s players on paper are worth more than ours but our closeness together gets us over the line.

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Which is what happened with Jackson, wasn't it ? Some said the figures quoted for him were ridiculously high. Now I don't know the exact figure that the club (manager or owner ?) eventually settled for, but he still left.

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We got a damn good fee for jacko i think, Loved him but he aint Championship Level yet, cos he cant get a regular slot in Ipswitchs side?

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Talking to a couple of Ipswich fans in the bar on Saturday & they reckon we owe them some change :D

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See Coleys comments today about the game tomorrow confirming Charman’s return to Geordie land.

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But his colleagues didn't play to his strengths, felt he was badly let down by them. No support.

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Quite agree, they weren't just blaming Kayden by any stretch of the imagination - just pretty pee'd off with their club in general

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Kayden was left to play up front on his own. He is just not that kind of out and out centre forward. :(

His success for us was based on how he played up front behind Billy's first thrust for the ball and he used his speed and skill to pick up the ball in advanced positions often coming in on goal at speed and at tight angles. :jimbo:

Kayden got absolutely no support from his colleagues and his abilities are being badly mismanaged at Ipswich.:eek:

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that cannot be true as they have one of the greatest thinkers the game has ever known as their manager, paul lambert.

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Maybe so but he didn't play

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The subtle difference here mate is that this is the January window.
Not many clubs below a certain standard will invest in fees for players at this stage in the season - they will maybe take in loans and then re assess the situation at the end of the season.
Unless you're Preston and awash with cash.
I don't believable we got the asking price for Jackson but the money received could not be refused and there was no point having an unhappy player for the whole season.
His body language and performance against Gillingham answered that.
Every player has his price I know.
Which players do you think of ours are going to attract big money attention in this window ?

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Maybe somebody not getting game time might be enquired about but don't think anyone will leave.

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I think 1 person who played Ipswich may well leave from what i heard?

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I've heard nothing .... neither in nor out.

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Is this the major Ripley rumour spreading like wildfire ?

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no

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You've flip flopped 28. At one stage you were saying as a 'cure all' to keep your better players , all you need to do is put a 'ridiculous valuation ' on them so it's 'simples'........

........Now, in your latest post (no.93) you're saying well actually it's a bit more complicated than that
i.e. it's a January window, certain clubs may or may not have the money, players who've become unsettled /body language and finally every player has his price.
In other words there are loads of variables where a club can end up losing players. Seems to me, at last, we are on the same page.

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You need to get your contacts to listen more!;)

3 in soon; 2 out; Zehn to Conf North and Andy Scott extended to Stalybridge.

Good night