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A must win game as the EFL trophy is likely to be the best chance of silverware and a trip to Wembley is on offer plus the additional tv money and prize money.

Based on Liverpool’s u23s still having a strong squad (May change tomorrow with deadline day) , Fleetwood could be the easier of the 2 home games.

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It's Liverpool Under-21s Dave ! We also have Oldham away to come which hopefully is a win for the reds :)

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Sorry U21s although they have very few players over 21 in the u23s squad (if that makes sense!).

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i just want our own back on yon lot.

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to me dav is 100% right with this it is our only realistic chance of getting to wembley, i just hope with folk, that penny drops and we get more attending i'm sure those that cant be bothered will be if it was a wembley trip,

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Not a case of not being bothered Cashy, I've voiced my feelings about this competition before & they haven't changed. Always attended these games in the old format but once the under 21's teams from the 'big boys' were invited in, sorry but I didn't agree with it & still don't.
And, if we did get to Wembley in this competition it would be so hard but I would not go on principal

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Agree with your sentiments AccyMad - I must admit I am a fan of the competition, I was dubious about the U23 teams, however Jimmy Bell said to me it helps him and Coley with loan targets from Prem Teams as they can view them playing mens football.
Make sense I guess

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i dont really like it either Di, but if sir andy says its good for stanley that will do for me.:)

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He can't really say anything else Cashy or there'd probably be repurcussions - each to their own but personally as they say on Dragons Den, "I'm out"

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Andy, Coley and Jimmy are all for it. That's good enough for me. Looking forward to it.

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Are tickets available on the night?

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They certainly are folks !!

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"I like this competition, I like competing and I like winning games of football." - John Coleman. He can't make it clearer than that, so get yerself along! A real bargain at a fiver!

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To be fair Wynonie, Coley has also said he's competitive at everything - even a game of tiddlywinks & I wouldn't pay to watch him play that :D

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Would you not like to see him tiddle his winky

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Seven changes
Savin
Hughes
Edwards
Skyes
Sherif
Pritchard
mcconville
Maguire
Barclay
Bishop
Carvalho

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Sherif replaced already as was on a yellow card, fleetwood player sent off

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At half time

Savin - looks composed and a solid reaction save
Hughes - does the overwhelming majority of distribution out of the back
Sykes - solid enough
Edwards - quiet game so far
Mcguire - not a left back or left wing back IMO, constantly putting the ball onto his right foot
Sherif - positional sense needs work, arguably worst Stanley player so far, doesn’t look good enough based on that first 30 mins before subbed
Finley - improvement over Sherif
Barclay - industrious , needs to influence the game more
Carvalho - not had any decent balls to feed him, quiet so far most of the action is on the left for Stanley until 40th minute.
McConville - okay so far, you can tell they see him as a threat
Bishop - works hard but lost more than he has won in the air
Pritchard - lively at times but holds onto the ball for too long, had a decent half chance at the back post with a header

Referee - crap, gave a decision the wrong way, gave Fleetwood a very soft free kick in the first 30 seconds, out of his depth. There red card was blatant but if Stanley hadn’t of reacted so angrily to the daft booking on Sherif for a nothing foul a minute earlier, he wouldn’t have given it.
Not to mention waving playing on when Finley went down with a head injury

Few decent players in the Fleetwood team, the right back Coyle and midfielder Demsey, 2 quality players at this level.

Suspect they will soon settle for a nil nil draw by 70 mins, Stanley need a goal to ruin there successful all behind the ball tactic

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You beauty !!!

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Sean !!!

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Savin MOTM

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Revenge is sweet. :)

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Dav, it’s now your job to start all the match threads, OK?

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Just seen highlights on You Tube...1 question; Whats with our keeper wearing almost identical colours as the outfield strip?. It was only a very few years ago that we were told quite clearly that the keeper had to have completely different colours to avoid confusion. We were told it was a FIFA rule. Anyone enlighten me?

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Finley was my MOTM, change the game around for Stanley, opened up Fleetwood with some clever movement and passing.
The 2nd Stanley goal is all due to Finley instructing Carvalho where to go and making a run to occupy the fleetwood players.

Fleetwood are a good team, they will win more than they lose.
11 vs 11 they where the better team until the sending off.

Stanley have a lot of players with potential and who clearly have understood Coleman’s work ethic, a few obvious flaws in some of the players but with Coleman and Bell we know those who want to improve and apply themselves will do.

I hope Finley gets his contract extended

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Agree but thought our young keeper earned his MOM. we messed about too much with the ball last 10 mins was a daft way to go imho,

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Agree with Dav and Cashman on the whole.:)
I honestly think that had Fleetwood kept 11 players on the pitch that they would have beaten us, probably by a couple of goals. In the last fifteen minutes of the first half and the first thirty of the second half when Fleetwood had position of the ball we just couldn't get it off them. They were very good in possession and skilful.:idunno:
It is a real shame that they resorted to the typical Joey Barton tactics of foul play. The other week 'Cheat' Evans clearly bated McConville and got him sent off! He knew exactly what he was doing. Last night they tried a similar 'set up' but the 'tackle' was more physical than actually intended. IMHO the intention was to get a reaction from Sean Mac and see again what the ref would do!:dflam:
That apart, Stanley played some of our squad who have not had much playing time. As Dav said, Savin was very good and this will do his confidence a lot of good. Edwards had a steady match and showed further proof of his recovery from injury and of his match fitness. Pritchard is continuing to impress with his skill and drive and confidence on the ball. Bishop didn't get as much service as on Saturday but when he got on the ball he looked dangerous.:theband:
We should have been given a penalty late on when Bishop broke through and was going to get to the ball before their keeper. He was cleverly pulled back by his arm which twisted him round and knocked him off balance. :eek:
I was sat in line with the incident immediately behind the assisant referee who chose not to see it! He got some verbal grief by all of us sat in that area of the stand for not doing his job properly! Should have been a penalty and a red card IMHO.:dummy2::dummy2::dummy2:
Once we scored our second goal we did finally dominate the ten men but allowed them a consolation goal in the 93rd minute.
A good run out for some of our fringe players and new boys and John and Jimmy will have learnt a bit more about them.
:mosher:
ON STANLEY ON:theband:

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Well as far as the Paint Pot goes, I actually enjoyed last night's game. By the looks of the team sheet Coleman is taking it seriously and why not, it's a chance of Wembley at the end of the day.

Needless to say I don't think there's much love lost between our lads and Fleetwood, which was quite obvious looking at the amount of early fouls. No surprise with the sending off or the early sub of Sheriff who looked a certain red card, fair play to take him off before the inevitable happened.

Have to say i thought Carvalho had a great 60-70 minutes , obviously he tired towards the end which was understandable considering he probably hasn't played as many minutes for quite a while.

Also must mention Savin in goal. For a young lad in his first ever senior game I thought he was magnificent. Did not put a foot wrong until his little rush of blood in the 89th minute. Fair play young man........... Not quite sure where Bursik was ?? Anyone know ??

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thought the substitution of sheriff was the first sensible substitution i have seen this season we also wondered were Bursik was.:confused:

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really understand your point of view but i,m sure carrying a principle if Stanley got to wembley and not going is carrying it a bit too far. could be the one and only chance and i could no way miss a chance like that.

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Enjoyable game yes Fleetwood were better in large parts of the game but when we played quickly out from the back with first touch passing which led to the second goal we looked decent, work in progress Edwards gets a mention he played well better defensively that Johnson who could possibly be played in midfield Savin, Carvello and Finlay played well.

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Don't get me wrong, it would be so difficult not to go but if I disagree with the format of the whole competition as vehemently as I do, I'd be a hypocrite to put those feelings aside just for the chance of a day out at Wembley, just couldn't do it

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There's a spectrum isn't there.... at one end is the football fan purist who believes that not going to Yeovil for a reserve match on a cold winter evening is an act of betrayal against the club. Anyone who fails to make the trip is not a true fan.

Then you've got the fan who will only go if it's Chelsea at home in the FA Cup and doesn't care what others think.

And on another dimension those who are guided by principle (hate the owners, hate the format, hate commercialisation etc) and those oblivious to that sort of stuff.

I seem to be able to glide along these two dimensions as circumstances arise. Consequentally, I'm not going for similar reasons as Accymad... until we get to Wembley when I will go and at the same time be able to shake my head in despair at my fellow travellers remembering that they probably weren't at the 3-2 defeat at Stevenage away one tuesday night two seasons ago.

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What’s are your impressions of Sherif before the sub Cashy?
To me his positional sense was very poor, constantly standing in the wrong place having no influence on the game.
Admittedly he was up against a very good Fleetwood midfielder, but the difference between his influence and Finley’s was like chalk and cheese.

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One other thing I’ve noticed with Hughes distribution; He is far more accurate and generally provides better quality of passes (weight of pass and height of pass) when he plays out to the left hand side as opposed to the right hand side.

Not are if there is a heat map or stat map available that can show if my observation is correct.

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wasn't over impressed Dav. but the subbing was sensible to me, was sure the ref intended to even thing up.

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Bursik is away on international duty with england under age squad

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cheers mate dont think many were aware.

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I don't like the inclusion of the U-21 sides either but that wouldn't keep me away from Wembley (or the Crown if I lived oop north). But the powers-that-be will only realise they've got this wrong when two U-21 teams reach the final and get a gate of only a couple of thousand, if that.

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I didn't like the format when it was introduced but I went to a game last season and went last night teams now taking it more seriously Fleetwood put a strong team out and progressing money to be had not to be sniffed at by clubs like ours.

Agreed, like everyone else I don't like the inclusion of under-21's, but it's a handy source of income for us and I thought Tuesday was quite an enjoyable match - was particularly impressed with Savin. As the gate was just short of a 1,000, I reckon more people are coming round to it, too.

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Agree with this fully. They have been so lucky with the "dream" final last year and some massive sides making the final in previous seasons.

Good luck with the crowds if Liverpool U23's play Chelsea U23's in the final

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Exactly the reason why i go to these games, its the only chance of Wembley realistically, and I wanna go! I couldnt boycott the tougnament but jump onto a final.

Cant wait for a Stanley v WBA under 21 final in front of 3000 :)

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Stanley at wembley must be 99% of fans dream imho

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looking at tuesdays gate against the mk dons one then percentage wise i think stanley fans have warmed to the competition more than most other clubs fans have. even before andy holt asked fans to support the competition our gates were actually above other clubs which is a rare event in itself.