Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1240331)

Can’t please everyone I’m afraid so have to go with the majority.
It’s actually turned down a bit when the players come out so the Clayton End volume is heard.
Quieter behind Clayton End or in Redz Bar before game.

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1240330)

Many of the supporters around where I stand in the stadium are really frustrated with the noise over ‘The System’ during the build up to the match. My view is that during the last thirty minutes build up before a match that the music should of course be there but at a level which allows conversation. Then at five minutes before kick off, use ‘ The System’ much more loudly with dramatic music when the players actually come out of the changing rooms and run onto the pitch! Use some common sense please!:idunno:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240336)

I understand Mr Holt not bothering ?

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240336)

I understand Mr Holt not bothering ?

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240336)

I understand Mr Holt not bothering ?

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1240329)

Not sure why you think TV wanted VAR??

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1240340)

We haven’t had a TV for 30 years but even I can understand why broadcasters would welcome VAR. In their eyes they see it as adding unpredictable ‘drama‘ that can help hold their audience just long enough to the next ad break. Same rationale as to why in Korea they added canned crowd noise to a televised ‘ghost game’.

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240335)

League 1 meeting tomorrow anyone holding their breath as to whether we'll get a decision will the big "6" clubs " bully" the rest into completing the season and bankrupting themselves in the process or will democracy rule the day and common sense prevail and we can move on do the retained lists and sort of plan for next season.

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1240341)

An ad break during a live football game..... no.
A lot of the problem is people don’t move with the times.

Televised fan noise is what the people watching must want.
When Amazon showed the Prem fixtures over Christmas - people loved having the feature to be able to turn off the commentators.
Why didn’t they just mute the TV??
Because they still wanted the fan noise...

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1240337)

I’d imagine possibly left in hands of MT or DB?

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1240345)

No L1 meeting Tomorrow

Yes DPB and Mr T are on the L1 meetings

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240326)

The new system is very good should be at the price just needs a bit of volume adjustment in the approach to kickoff that's usually when you catch up with the familiar faces around you swap niceties and chat about team selection and all things Stanley alas no more since the volume went up.

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1240341)

An ad break during a live football game..... no.
A lot of the problem is people don’t move with the times.

moving with the times like the Yanks would have us? Four quarters = more ad breaks.

Televised fan noise is what the people watching must want.
When Amazon showed the Prem fixtures over Christmas - people loved having the feature to be able to turn off the commentators.
Why didn’t they just mute the TV??
Because they still wanted the fan noise...

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1240359)

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1240345)

No L1 meeting Tomorrow

Yes DPB and Mr T are on the L1 meetings

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240369)

BBC reporting that clubs are meeting today ?

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240369)

BBC reporting that clubs are meeting today ?

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1240386)

Nothing sorted proper again the E.F.L, are completely USELESS.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1240390)

yeh but what 12 clubs voted for they have not accepted yet that was a majority with bury being removed,

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1240394)

Ladies and Gents;

The EFL are not "useless" they are making sound decisions based as close as they can to the current regulations.

Clubs have 3 days to make written submissions on the Board proposals; sensible:)

Then under new emergency regulations voted for in March they will call an EGM to adopt these proposals.

Electronic EGM 5 days later

Follow the rules and regs which have been democratically voted on leaves minimal chance of lawyers getting involved

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240380)

I watched two games in Germany at the weekend ....... never again.

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1240397)

What did 12 clubs (presumably in L1) vote for?
And am I right in assuming for the EFL proposals to be carried all 3 leagues have to have a majority of at least 51% in favour?

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1240397)

What did 12 clubs (presumably in L1) vote for?
And am I right in assuming for the EFL proposals to be carried all 3 leagues have to have a majority of at least 51% in favour?

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1240403)

Cashy and all;

Sorry just picking on this

the comment in post 531 re a vote/ majority of clubs??

There hasn't yet been a formal or an informal vote as yet in L1, so no idea where the 12 clubs comment comes from.

The EFL have put forward a proposal where by clubs can formally comment to the Board until 5pm next Tuesday.
Then an EGM will be called and should 51% vote in favour of this proposal the normal season will need, positions decided on PPG and play's off will then take place.

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1240409)

Once again there has been no vote of any sort in L1

L2 "voted" informally on their Zoom call a week last Thursday that to end the normal season

What is put out in the media is a combination of the basic EFL communication plus some guess work or a "leak"

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1240409)

Once again there has been no vote of any sort in L1

L2 "voted" informally on their Zoom call a week last Thursday that to end the normal season

What is put out in the media is a combination of the basic EFL communication plus some guess work or a "leak"

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240411)

Quick question for Mr.T has there been any talk of financial aid from various sources or not because to me these are far more important as a report again that I read is saying without any a lot of clubs are just 2 weeks away from ruin?

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1240412)

Mr T. I have been following the comments on here and the EFL news via the BBC.
What do you mean by ....’voted informally’ ....please? Was it an actual vote on a firm proposal or was it just canvassing opinion? There is a big difference. :idunno:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1240414)

There has been "talk" of getting external monies, from say Govt but Football PLC ( in the main ) has overspent so there are concerns such move might not look to well with the general public.

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1240415)

There has been no vote, actual/ informal or canvassing opinion in L1; just a 3 hour video meeting in which it was obvious there was lots of different opinions.

I have it from an excellent source that L2 all agreed to stop the regular season and try and go for the play-offs. They have asked for no relegation but the EFL Board won't agree to this. L2 is much easier at the top as they've all played the same games.
However nothing is official until an EGM is set up and voting papers sent out and returned

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1240424)

no matter what the EFL clubs vote for regarding the promotion or relegation they cannot do much if the premier league do not relegate clubs or the national league do not promote any. can see something of a farce in the brian rix catogary once the vote takes place. below the national league structure the clubs weeks ago ended their seasons with no promotion or relegation.

Originally Posted by Chimer (Post 1240465)

As I understand it, players can't be furloughed if they're training - that counts as working. And employers are going to have to pay part of the salaries of furloughed staff from August.

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240469)

Huddersfield owner Phil Hodgkinson warns '50 or 60 clubs' could go bust

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240469)

Huddersfield owner Phil Hodgkinson warns '50 or 60 clubs' could go bust

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1240468)

Says it right here on the government website

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/check-if...re-on-furlough

While you’re on furlough
Once you are on furlough you will not be able to work for your employer. You can undertake training......

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240469)

Huddersfield owner Phil Hodgkinson warns '50 or 60 clubs' could go bust

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1240474)

its still less than 3 months ago when we were still going to games. a lot has happened since then. i imagine a lot will happen the other way in the next 3 months. that more or less takes us up the september when proper football could resume. a big possibility it could resume with fans also. far too much negativity around without any real positive glass half full messages around. every person seems have contracted project fear and its going to be difficult to get this out of their minds.

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240498)

Well just seen the news bank holiday Southend beach more on their than Stanley get at home way this is going hope for crowds yet what a joke.

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1240511)

Why not play the rest of the season on ‘neutral’ beaches! ;)

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240688)

It's all 72 EFL clubs voting on the 8th not just League One.
It isn't a vote to decide on League One its to agree the framework laid out on 21 May.

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240694)

You're missing the issue of Wycombe mate. Imagine being a Peterborough fan deprived of a play off spot.

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240688)

It's all 72 EFL clubs voting on the 8th not just League One.
It isn't a vote to decide on League One its to agree the framework laid out on 21 May.

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1240734)

Another day of indecision...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52914059

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1240739)

lots of implications which is why it hasn’t yet been sorted. rules have to be added to allow changes. some fair proposals put forward but no point on having 10 different ideas and voting on them, be hard to get a majority.

lots happening behind the scenes. nothing to make public as far too much speculation and to be honest some of that has been absolutely absurd.

it’s human nature to worry about yourself first.

“If you don’t love yourself, why should anyone else”

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1240742)

But, compared with the so-called judicial system, a day’s delay makes the EFL look like a dynamic decision-making body.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-52881290

I always thought the maxim was “justice delayed is justice denied”.
Why should a trial be scheduled so it doesn’t “clash with the football season”?

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1240743)

That's disgraceful, it's gone on long enough & should be dealt with as soon as the courts are open again

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1240756)

i detest barton but to me its no big deal, both of em are managers,and it was a push not exactly life threatening.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1240756)

i detest barton but to me its no big deal, both of em are managers,and it was a push not exactly life threatening.

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1240766)

Think it was a bit more than that Cashy, & the fact that eventually he'll be in court for it says as much.

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240740)

There should be at least one rule no playing professional football behind closed doors unless you're income is guaranteed by another scource ie:- fantastic TV revenue, government subsidies etc, other than that stay in hibernation untill crowds allowed back 100% not in dribs and drabs has as been suggested.

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1240743)

That's disgraceful, it's gone on long enough & should be dealt with as soon as the courts are open again

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1240762)

in well over 100 years of football it will not be the first time it has happened. i,ve witnessed more than a push between managers even in amateur football. think a lot is due to bartons baggage he carries around with him. bit of luck he,ll eventually end up at stevenage as he would not be welcome at stanley for me.

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240778)

Andy - this is where people have to be careful when wording any rule amendment. You neglect to consider compulsory closures where there has been violence and more importantly racism at grounds. This week's events bring that into focus. So please don't just blandly say no football behind closed doors.

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240780)

It wasn't a push my friend. It was a head butt causing dental damage and done in full view of young ball boys.
Added to this is his criminal record.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1240782)

was me that said it was a push, going off the report i read, if it was a headbut then i stand corrected, but still dont think the delay is a big deal the other guy it said is managing in scotland also it said?

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240781)

Stand corrected it was a comment aimed at the general as I would assume most onlookers agree fiasco painted by the efl on the voting surrounding how to end this season fairly. That last word fairly seems to be the sticking point because to me looking from the outside agree with not all the facts apart from common sense that the efl rather than being in charge have passed the buck back to the clubs who obviously act in their own interests, thus making any voting irrelevant. Cheltenham of league 2 for instance they could be made to play in that divisions play offs stating they can,t afford to. The bigger picture at the expense of repeating myself is next season to me insisting no start without crowds or something else to replace the income. Being forced to play behind closed doors irrelevant of rule books which went out the window I' n March will lead to sadly job losses staff and players and clubs failing let's hope Tuesday's vote if it goes ahead gets the right result end of season.

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240784)

Stendl needed private dentistry work. Thats a fact because it was my mate who did the dentistry.

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240785)

Well the consensus is that 15 League One clubs will vote to end the season. As only 12 needed .........

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1240414)

There has been "talk" of getting external monies, from say Govt but Football PLC ( in the main ) has overspent so there are concerns such move might not look to well with the general public.