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andyd 28-08-2021 13:40

MK Dons away thread.
 
Pritchard injured again Clark makes his debut.
Line up:-
Trafford.
Sykes. Nottingham. Rodgers.
Clark. Butcher. Morgan. Pell. McConville.
Bishop. Charles.

Subs:- Savin. Sherring. Mumbango. Proctor . Leigh. Nolan. Perritt.

No place for new lad Amankwah but he only signed yesterday.

Watchdog 28-08-2021 13:50

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Hope the lad Clark fits into the side easy today. Some good reviews of him by the fans on Port Vales forum pages.

Kiwi John 28-08-2021 13:50

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SNAP !! two threads going here. Ditch mine and stick with this.

Kiwi John 28-08-2021 14:46

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I&%&*^%%$#@$%#@^&^&%*()&*(*&%$^%$#%$^%$$*^%&^%!! ! :(

andyd 28-08-2021 14:47

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Getting a bit monotonous now the saying they score against the run of play 0-1 MK Dons.

andyd 28-08-2021 14:50

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The difference is here to me is their striker Eisa gets a sniff and takes it.

Lord Stiffupperlip 28-08-2021 15:05

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Same old story I'm afraid - we've had 7 goal attempts with a paltry 1 on target.
Let's hope our boys can turn this around second-half.
Frustratingly, if winning we'd be in 2nd spot (as things stand).

andyd 28-08-2021 15:16

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Mumbango on for Clark Charles to wing back.

andyd 28-08-2021 15:23

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Sounds like we are playing a long ball game and long throw in,s doesn't seem much flowing creative play, surely we don't miss one player Pritchard so much.

andyd 28-08-2021 15:30

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Trafford save keeps us in the game should be 0-2.

andyd 28-08-2021 15:38

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Stanley playing poorly Mumbango presented with a superb chance one on one with the keeper side foots his shot wide, sums our strikers up this season.

yonmon 28-08-2021 15:39

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77 minutes and Mr M. misses an absolute gift of a chance !..
A strong last 10 needed lads !.

Kiwi John 28-08-2021 15:46

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%&$^*#&^%&*%$^%%(*^(. feckin waste of a good nights sleep...Grumpy Sunday is here...:(

andyd 28-08-2021 15:46

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0-2 game over sounds like we have been shocking this second half Dan Jewell sums it up Stanley have been poor but just can't miss the chance,s we have had. The striker,s need another player in to give us an option with Hardy out for the foreseeable.

andyd 28-08-2021 15:50

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
172 Stanley fans well done feel for you on the longish journey home especially when Stanley have been so poor been there many a time.

yonmon 28-08-2021 15:51

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1257091)
0-2 game over sounds like we have been shocking this second half Dan Jewell sums it up Stanley have been poor but just can't miss the chance,s we have had. The striker,s need another player in to give us an option with Hardy out for the foreseeable.

So poor Andy... no shape.. big boots all round..
The Roller Coaster has started on its journey !..

andyd 28-08-2021 15:52

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Dan Jewell just said 94 minutes gone and their keeper hasn't been forced into a meaningful save doesn't matter about missed chances, not making a keeper work to me is a dreadful performance home or away.

yonmon 28-08-2021 16:11

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Watching the game it appeared that one or two of our team were unfit.. others were content to let their team mates do the work..
MKD must have thought that all their birthdays had come at once.. particularly their Goalkeeper who was never under any threat ( until Mr M's glaring miss that is !).
The boot it anywhere game will only lead us in one direction I'm afraid .. back to playing football sooner than later Reds..?
P L E A S E !..

Lord Stiffupperlip 28-08-2021 16:13

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
In our 5 league games played so far, our so-called 'strikers' haven't scored a single goal.
The stats today sum it up - 13 shots to their 12 - but only 2 on target!
5 corners to their 1 - though from our conversion rate from corners, 20 wouldn't have made any difference.
Despite all these facts we end up losing the game
Thank goodness for Butcher, Pell & Nottingham, because Bishop, Charles & Mumbongo continue to offer zero threat.

andyd 28-08-2021 16:20

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 1257097)
Watching the game it appeared that one or two of our team were unfit.. others were content to let their team mates do the work..
MKD must have thought that all their birthdays had come at once.. particularly their Goalkeeper who was never under any threat ( until Mr M's glaring miss that is !).
The boot it anywhere game will only lead us in one direction I'm afraid .. back to playing football sooner than later Reds..?
P L E A S E !..

Coleman mentioned fitness after the Oldham game if this is the case after just 5 games something is seriously wrong, but your mention of players happy to let others do the work to me is really troublesome. That can look like being unfit but says more like they ain't a happy bunch, hearing certain rumours about argument,s in the camp have Coleman and Bell lost some of the dressing room.

StanleyJosh 28-08-2021 16:38

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worst performance I’ve seen in a long long time.
no energy, no desire, no leaders.
Pell’s lack of discipline will let him down.
Summed it up at the end when Colby and Joel about 4 times in a row both went up for headers at same time. Players need to take responsibility and learn there roles in the team.

Why bring on Mumbongnoideahowtoplayfootball and move Dion to wing back?! Take the game to MK and play a 3-4-3.

andyd 28-08-2021 16:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1257100)
worst performance I’ve seen in a long long time.
no energy, no desire, no leaders.
Pell’s lack of discipline will let him down.
Summed it up at the end when Colby and Joel about 4 times in a row both went up for headers at same time. Players need to take responsibility and learn there roles in the team.

Why bring on Mumbongnoideahowtoplayfootball and move Dion to wing back?! Take the game to MK and play a 3-4-3.

When they made the substitution Dan Jewell mentioned Charles shrugged and pulled his face at having to move to wing back not a happy chappy, shows how weak we are for creative players in the squad when you repeatedly move our top scorer last season out wide and he,s clearly unhappy about it dressing room disharmony ?

andyd 28-08-2021 17:10

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Just seen their first goal Mo Eisa Peterborough broke their transfer record to sign him, MK Dons also broke their transfer record to sign him probably earning 4+ more times the money any of our lads are on against the run of play on the stroke of half time picks the ball up at pace completely nutmegs Nottingham and although Trafford has the good keeper he his is quick off his line finds the exact spot with a beautiful finish. Unfortunately you gets what you pay for especially with a striker turned the game in their favour.

andyd 28-08-2021 18:24

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Post match interview to be fair John hasn't blown his top just said it for me the difference was obviously taking chances teams that do generally finish in the higher reaches of what particular league they are in, let's hope something clicks sooner rather than later. Some quotes on Facebook from fans saying Mumbongo isn't good enough bit harsh on the young lad he,s not on his own in the striker department in that sense look,s big and strong and pacey a goal might just be the tonic he needs.

Lost in Cornwall 28-08-2021 21:16

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First chance I've had to watch Stanley since lockdown and hugely disappointed. Charles and Mumbongo should have scored and we would have got something out of the game but that would have been papering over the cracks. No creativity in our play. Lump it into the box and hope for the best seemed to be the plan. Also concerned that the back three wandered all over the pitch with those they were marking leaving space for MK to exploit at the back which they did twice successfully and could have done a couple more times. Hope it was just a bad day and things improve next week.

andyd 28-08-2021 21:59

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost in Cornwall (Post 1257108)
First chance I've had to watch Stanley since lockdown and hugely disappointed. Charles and Mumbongo should have scored and we would have got something out of the game but that would have been papering over the cracks. No creativity in our play. Lump it into the box and hope for the best seemed to be the plan. Also concerned that the back three wandered all over the pitch with those they were marking leaving space for MK to exploit at the back which they did twice successfully and could have done a couple more times. Hope it was just a bad day and things improve next week.

When you play wing backs they have to defend but also be creative if they receive the ball,Clark made his debut but was sacrificed for Coleman,s usual Charles out to wing back which I find strange moving last season,s top scorer into a position I don't think he particularly likes. McConville to me isn't a wing back he,s more effective behind the strikers drifting wide. As for the back three Sykes has good a defender he his he lacks a supple pass likes to launch it, we need the back three to be finding the midfield more but unfortunately without Pritchard we lose all movement and creative play. Personally prefer Rodgers even though he is good in the back three as the right sided wing back and Pritchard on the left.

monkey hanger 29-08-2021 08:31

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1257098)
In our 5 league games played so far, our so-called 'strikers' haven't scored a single goal.
The stats today sum it up - 13 shots to their 12 - but only 2 on target!
5 corners to their 1 - though from our conversion rate from corners, 20 wouldn't have made any difference.
Despite all these facts we end up losing the game
Thank goodness for Butcher, Pell & Nottingham, because Bishop, Charles & Mumbongo continue to offer zero threat.

doubt bishop and charles have been flashes in the pan. more of a case of what all strikers go through at times, a lean period. they,ll end up notching a couple of goals in a game but contribute very little apart from that. its just how football seems to work.

andyd 29-08-2021 08:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1257117)
doubt bishop and charles have been flashes in the pan. more of a case of what all strikers go through at times, a lean period. they,ll end up notching a couple of goals in a game but contribute very little apart from that. its just how football seems to work.

Last season in a lot of post match interview,s Coleman wether he scored or not was full of praise for Colby on how he leads the line, hold,s the ball up etc: this season not a mention.

cashman 29-08-2021 08:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1257118)
Last season in a lot of post match interview,s Coleman wether he scored or not was full of praise for Colby on how he leads the line, hold,s the ball up etc: this season not a mention.

think myself hes been poor this season. thing is dion aint hitting the mark yet either, thats both our 2 strikers.

andyd 29-08-2021 09:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1257121)
think myself hes been poor this season. thing is dion aint hitting the mark yet either, thats both our 2 strikers.

Can't understand why Charles keeps getting moved out to wingback when a substitution is made surly Charles is better deployed in and around the box harassing center half,s and close to the target, as for Colby he moved up the ladder with a big step always thought he's great when scoring but his general movement in the game and finding space or pace which he lacks aren't brilliant.

Lord Stiffupperlip 29-08-2021 09:48

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1257117)
doubt bishop and charles have been flashes in the pan. more of a case of what all strikers go through at times, a lean period. they,ll end up notching a couple of goals in a game but contribute very little apart from that. its just how football seems to work.

I never implied they were 'flashes in the pan'.
Our 5 league goals are down to Butcher (2), Pell & Nottingham + 1 o/g.
Of course all strikers go through lean spells, but when all three are firing blanks, it's a lot more concerning.

Exile on Spencer St 29-08-2021 10:01

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1257118)
Last season in a lot of post match interview,s Coleman wether he scored or not was full of praise for Colby on how he leads the line, hold,s the ball up etc: this season not a mention.

C’mon, there’s been 5 games thus far. Coley has a few minutes immediately after the match to sum up the entire game. If he mentions three or four names, does that mean anything about the other seven or eight?
Couple of games at home I saw I thought Colby did well but didn’t score. However, Stanley won them (very narrowly) so there was no veiled criticism or suggestion of rumours in the camp.
But I do agree with you about McConville. He’s never been much good at defending and it’s more difficult for him to make those attacking passes/crosses (as he did for Charles on Saturday) if he’s having make up ground from being a full-back.

andyd 29-08-2021 10:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1257135)
C’mon, there’s been 5 games thus far. Coley has a few minutes immediately after the match to sum up the entire game. If he mentions three or four names, does that mean anything about the other seven or eight?
Couple of games at home I saw I thought Colby did well but didn’t score. However, Stanley won them (very narrowly) so there was no veiled criticism or suggestion of rumours in the camp.
But I do agree with you about McConville. He’s never been much good at defending and it’s more difficult for him to make those attacking passes/crosses (as he did for Charles on Saturday) if he’s having make up ground from being a full-back.

Agree often manager,s say things they regret when they have calmed down, what concerned me was after the Oldham game which incidentally on 90 minutes was a 4 match unbeaten run why suddenly bring fitness or lack of it up who was this aimed at or was it at players he doesn't really want to pick?

cashman 29-08-2021 10:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1257136)
Agree often manager,s say things they regret when they have calmed down, what concerned me was after the Oldham game which incidentally on 90 minutes was a 4 match unbeaten run why suddenly bring fitness or lack of it up who was this aimed at or was it at players he doesn't really want to pick?

how can it it be players he dont wanna pick? he reckons our squad is good.

andyd 29-08-2021 11:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1257140)
how can it it be players he dont wanna pick? he reckons our squad is good.

With you on this Cashy totally confused with his words let's hope it was just frustration and we move on.

cashman 29-08-2021 11:19

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Its either Frustration or Bullshine nothing else fits.

Watchdog 29-08-2021 11:54

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We seem totally disjoined at times, will be glad when Seamus is back to help get the team all joined up.

Twenty Eight 29-08-2021 14:49

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He’s nearly there.

cashman 29-08-2021 14:51

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good.

monkey hanger 30-08-2021 08:12

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1257140)
how can it it be players he dont wanna pick? he reckons our squad is good.

yes, he has said stuff like that before but cannot wait to get his obvious preferred starting 11 out on the pitch together even when one or two are not really on form.

andyd 30-08-2021 08:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1257172)
yes, he has said stuff like that before but cannot wait to get his obvious preferred starting 11 out on the pitch together even when one or two are not really on form.

Probably a ring of truth to that but isn't it rediculous if you're not fully fit playing which in some game,s to me stood out last season.

VALAIRIAN 30-08-2021 08:52

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We all know how Coley picks his teams and a player being 70% does not come into it!

Cannot see him changing now, Seamus will be back next League game - fit, or not(my opinion!!)

:) :) :)

monkey hanger 30-08-2021 09:28

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1257175)
Probably a ring of truth to that but isn't it rediculous if you're not fully fit playing which in some game,s to me stood out last season.

mind you its a good reason to attend the papa johns games if you want to see different stanley players wearing the shirt. you read and hear about certain players having a decent game in that competition but are rarely seen outside of the warm up on the saturday after.

yonmon 30-08-2021 11:45

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1257109)
When you play wing backs they have to defend but also be creative if they receive the ball,Clark made his debut but was sacrificed for Coleman,s usual Charles out to wing back which I find strange moving last season,s top scorer into a position I don't think he particularly likes. McConville to me isn't a wing back he,s more effective behind the strikers drifting wide. As for the back three Sykes has good a defender he his he lacks a supple pass likes to launch it, we need the back three to be finding the midfield more but unfortunately without Pritchard we lose all movement and creative play. Personally prefer Rodgers even though he is good in the back three as the right sided wing back and Pritchard on the left.

Therein hangs another tale Andy !..
It was difficult to decide firstly if Stanley's midfield had any sort of tactical plan to adhere to, and secondly if they had were they good enough to put it into action.
MKD's midfield were everything that Morgan and Co needed to be
which made the result an inevitable .
I won't use the term ' unfit for purpose' but the thought lingers on in my mind !..
My plea is still that The Reds somehow return to playing controlled and intended passing and attacking rather than the random booting of a ball which we witnessed on Saturday.. but still the battle-cry is :-
ON STANLEY !.. ON TO GREATER THINGS !!..

Lost in Cornwall 31-08-2021 08:28

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Interesting move from MK Dons to use a defender to take goal kicks, passing the ball to their keeper. We never picked up on pressing the keeper giving them space to develop something from the back whereas we seem to have returned to booting the ball downfield and hoping we can pick something up from the first header. I did wonder what Mr Guardiola would think about his keeper being asked to play like that.

yonmon 31-08-2021 17:07

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost in Cornwall (Post 1257203)
Interesting move from MK Dons to use a defender to take goal kicks, passing the ball to their keeper. We never picked up on pressing the keeper giving them space to develop something from the back whereas we seem to have returned to booting the ball downfield and hoping we can pick something up from the first header. I did wonder what Mr Guardiola would think about his keeper being asked to play like that.

I don't want you to think that I always reply in negative , and terms which would outshine the moans of the prophet Jeremiah LIC.. but it did appear to me from James Traffords' general demeanour that he wasn't completely happy with his lot against MKD .
Perhaps he wasn't altogether enamoured by what was happening in front of him..
Best that I put it down to the mysterious vagaries of youth, or a misapprehension on the part of this aged observer !.

andyd 31-08-2021 17:38

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1257179)
We all know how Coley picks his teams and a player being 70% does not come into it!

Cannot see him changing now, Seamus will be back next League game - fit, or not(my opinion!!)

:) :) :)

If that happens and I agree Coley has been known to do it before with Conneelly especially as club captain surely if you know your not 100% or very close to it surely you should be asking questions about playing or not and risking further or serious damage to one's body?

MikeA 03-09-2021 21:24

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Interesting:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58435939

AccyMad 03-09-2021 21:32

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Ooooo, naughty Franchise FC

Exile on Spencer St 04-09-2021 07:51

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeA (Post 1257357)

I noticed that but couldn’t find any mention of anything untoward in match reports.

MikeA 04-09-2021 08:21

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1257368)
I noticed that but couldn’t find any mention of anything untoward in match reports.

Unusually, the whole match is available on https://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/...playvideo=true. It seems to be the incident that led to Lewington receiving a yellow card. I can't see much in it, but something may have been said to the ref.

monkey hanger 04-09-2021 09:37

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[QUOTE=MikeA;1257369 It seems to be the incident that led to Lewington receiving a yellow card. I can't see much in it, but something may have been said to the ref.[/QUOTE]

not even a handbag in sight either. football must be the only industry where its proffesionals actually want action taken against other lads in it. they quickly forget when the boot is on their feet. should keep their dirty gobs shut and leave that for the fans.

AccyMad 04-09-2021 09:41

Re: MK Dons away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1257376)
not even a handbag in sight either. football must be the only industry where its proffesionals actually want action taken against other lads in it. they quickly forget when the boot is on their feet. should keep their dirty gobs shut and leave that for the fans.

If it was something which was said to the ref it's quite likely it was he who reported it, not necessarily other players


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