Originally Posted by Div3North (Post 1263613)

Many kids don’t (apparently) care about anything, but there are many views about why they are so disengaged and what to do about it

As for the Courts, you need to understand that with all the sentencing guidances and protocols - which Judges must follow unless there are exceptional circumstances - a Judge can’t necessarily impose the sense that he (or we) would want. Hang ‘em and flog ‘em is long gone. And I know first hand of what I speak ….

The prat who ran into Harry needs to be prosecuted for encroaching on the playing area and for a common assault. That would result in a Football Banning Order, which might be a deterrent to others. With the current guidances though I suspect he’ll get a caution instead …

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Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1263606)

Points deduction,s could set a problematic precident whereas if your team's losing idiots throw a flare at the keeper, or objects or worse and invade the pitch to try and get the result altered, this growing trouble at ground,s is has I said before in its infancy society problem nip it in the bud with if caught and charged hefty fines and jail sentences if necessary, otherwise it will get out of control regardless of stewarding or police numbers has we saw in the 70,s into the 80,s. Lifetime bans are great but does it deter idiots who aren't there to watch the game anyway not easy to curb society trends among teenagers has history proves pity they attach themselves to football.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1263614)

as far as im concerned he should be jailed simple as. but theres no chance of that the system is much too weak.which you have just shown with your view of what he will get,

Originally Posted by Inspector Morse (Post 1263620)

'As soon as idiots are given a chance to manipulate an outcome the game's dead.'
Like they did on Saturday?

Originally Posted by Div3North (Post 1263621)

Can’t be jailed for “invading the pitch” - only carries a fine

Common assault does carry a possible prison term but having seen the video it isn’t near to the custody threshold

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1263623)

Bang on mate. Plus Harry told the cops to do one straight after so he's not pressing charges.

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1263622)

Really ?
So the fan made Harry miss, the fan made Mitch hit the post when really it was a sitter ?
Come on. We got the penalty the lad was sent off we got 8 minutes added.
Bad decision by those on the pitch.
Why McConville didn't step up and slot it way I do not know. Harry cannot have been focused upon the job in hand.

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1263616)

Correct Andy. As soon as idiots are given a chance to manipulate an outcome the game's dead.

Originally Posted by Inspector Morse (Post 1263626)

I would suggest the fan had an influence on the missed penalty. Pell's efforts aren't usually as shoddy as Saturday's.

That's sufficient to constitute manipulation.

Whether you consider that manipulation to be a material factor in the missing of the penalty is a different question.

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1263622)

Really ?
So the fan made Harry miss, the fan made Mitch hit the post when really it was a sitter ?
Come on. We got the penalty the lad was sent off we got 8 minutes added.
Bad decision by those on the pitch.
Why McConville didn't step up and slot it way I do not know. Harry cannot have been focused upon the job in hand.