The (early) Mansfield thread.
 

Starting this one early as I've had all sorts of trouble logging in and its been suggested that I start a thread to get my 'new' account in gear. My old account along with passwords etc, disappeared into cyber space and opening a new one wasn't as straight forward as it should be. Anyway, Stanley for three points I'm thinking.:mosher:

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Sir

Have I fixed "the issue" ?

Hopefully :)

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~ help pls:)

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:)

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🙂 Nice to have you back John 🙂

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Kiwi John (Jonny)

No idea what I've "done" :)

#old

Glad ur back with us :)

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Can't make this one!...Will be following closely from the Douro River in Portugal. COME ON STANLEY.

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Can’t quite take on board that you’re now “Kiwi Johnny”: I may just call you “KJ”

Losing your account loses all your records too, so may I record that the stats show you made 6,750 posts, had received 842 “likes”, and had 334,682 Rep Power points. Honourable figures that should stay with you going forward

I agree with mab: nice to have you back John

:theband::theband::theband:

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welcome back kiwi.

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Ref. is Ross Joyce, I am sure he has not been kind to us previously, though I may have Cashy's glasses on :)

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You do know that if we do not smash The Stags Kiwi, I shall be hacking your Internet again and this time Mr. T will not be getting you back on-line ;)


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P.S. great batting display yesterday :)

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I heard last night that local residents have been warned about the visiting Mansfield supporters. Apparently there is a group of hooligans amongst them, well known for fighting and vandalism. Fleetwood re visited by the sound of things!

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It will be well policesed today ,Mansfield have a reputation with a minority of the fans! Coal mining village ..

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Apparently Stang's have sold in the region of 1200 tickets for today's game!!

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Yes, unfortunately they have an element who are not very pleasant - as we witnessed at their ground in our promotion season, just hope they leave their idiots at home today

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Hooligan,s they would run a mile if a tardis appeared. with a gang of 70,s lads piling out of it��

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Good news on the injury front with Pritchard back in full training, Bagealhue not far away being monitored and Shipley back training next week just Sean then I think on the long term list

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Jay has to be careful. Booking was a joke, but could have been gone on 10 mins.

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0-1 overhead kick. Great finish but Coyle would have had an assist if he had worn yellow.

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0-2. Mansfield clearly the better side.

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Mansfield are not dominating in any way, but they are better organized and can string a few passes together.
Stanley on the other hand need a free-kick or a Tommy Leigh throw-in to get anywhere near a scoring chance.
With a midfield with two defensive stopper types who do very little going forward, we are never going to create many chances.

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"Where oh where has our midfield gone ?.."
Or maybe better still. .."do we have a Midfield unit ? ".
Then again do we have a Football 'Team'..or just 11 lads chasing a Football around for the afternoon ?.
As you will all have guessed ..I find this lame excuse for a Team to be not one interested in going places. I
Oh yes !.. and they are desperately in need of an on-field leader !.
Second half coming up !..I hope they make me eat these sour words !.

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Ross Joyce is a shocker.

He did us at Harrogate 2 weeks ago. Gave them a penalty when everyone saw it was chest first and then sent Rawson off when the foul was by the Harrogate player !

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Time for substitutes methinks ?.
The entire midfield are absolutely useless going forward...and we are desperately in need of a goal right now !.
Like I say we need a leader !.

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Coyle has been terrible. Why wait until the game is beyond saving before you substitute him?

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No chance !��... Stanley are a poor second -best in every department !.
More to come from Mansfield I reckon !.

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Not just Coyle Greger !.. The Reds are not playing as a team..and their Captain who I'm watching closely isn't inspiring or driving them to become one...

QUO VADIS STANLEY ?.

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Agree Yonmon,
But it was the obvious substitution to make. When we are as bad as we were, why wait to 0-3 and 75 minutes to change anything?
Poor coaching imho.

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I know that I'm a grumpy old Dinosaur.... But honestly, I want to see better than the abysmal display masquerading as a game of Football which I was unfortunate enough to witness this afternoon.
Like I said ,QUO VADIS STANLEY ?.

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Second best from kick you could see the lower league and experience in Mansfield and very well organized by a decent manager in Clough once we went behind there was only one winner, what baffled me before kickoff was the selection and line up of our team we have been looking for a left back for years we bring two in abliet one injured at the moment but why have Longelo who has looked good at this level so far why not pick Gubbins and move Longelo forward, with him and 36 years old Whalley who is proven at league 2 and still looks good a great creative midfield with someone in the centre who shows more interest than Liegh. Sooner Joe is back the better and hopefully gets a run of games free from fresh injures too many in our squad aren't up to league 2 never mind league 1, substitution,s baffled once again it needed change at half time two made at 90+ ????? As for Savin an absolute mare could blame him for two off the goals some sat around me said all three but Conneely was raging at him for the second and Seamus was right it was a keeper,s ball to challenge for.

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That is to lay at the management,s door.

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Final Result.
Accrington Stanley Pub Football team 0 - 3 Mansfield Town FC

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Can’t disagree with any of the earlier observations. Mansfield were well-drilled, got into space to make themselves available for passes, and finished their few chances.
Stanley, yet again, looked listless and like few knew what to do with the ball, other than give it to the nearest player whether he was already marked or not. They started ok but had lost the game after Mansfield’s second goal.
But then nothing changed in the second half, until it was way too late.

Thought (for once:rolleyes:) Brett Ormerod summed it up well after the game - Stanley tried to play “off the cuff” whereas Mansfield played to a plan.

Such a massive difference and disappointment from Tuesday night’s performance.

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Did Brett say that ?...Well good for him !

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Stanley looked like a lower mid table League 2 side. Their general play was good League 1 standard. Their finishing was at least Championship.

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Substitute,s 1st 67 mins enforced due to knock, 2nd 77 mins Adeyoin for Coyle apart from the obvious why take a central midfielder off for a " striker" why not one of the attacking midfielder,s and go 2 upfront 3rd and 4th at 3-0 nil down 90+3 minutes pathetic really unless John isn't has tactically nous has some fellow manager,s or he thinks the subs aren't really up to it

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...picked a good one to forget to set alarm for...Guess I've done my dash for thread starting..have to wait until tomatoes are planted...

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Apart from Brad Hills, who has obviously benefitted from excellent coaching from his early years up to the present time, the weakness that stood out for me in the rest of the team, particularly in midfield ,was the inability to perform the basic skills of control, passing and
tactical awareness to any advantage. Mansfield must have thought that Christmas had arrived early by virtue of the present they were gifted !.
Talking of the poor performance of our so-called Captain and the rest of the midfield... i wonder if we will ever see any semblance of a desire to attack the opposing defence from them and , wait for it , actually shoot a ball at goal ?. ( A treat we fans can only dream of ever watching ?). :rolleyes:

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Quote from the manager before todays game;
"Our home form cost us last year, we didn’t get our home form or our style of play right"
Stanley 0 - 3 Mansfield - So nothing's really changed.
From a chairman happy to be in L2, to a manager who's run out of ideas but is still guaranteed the job even if we drop into the abyss.
Where's the ambition? Where the pride?
After today, I fear mid-table obscurity is a very optimistic forecast.

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My glasses were not wrong :mad: :mad:

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My good friend, I feel you are a tad hash :)

Shaun Whalley - as always - gave 100% and never stopped running.

Jack Nolan was OK.

Seamus, was Seamus :)

Coyle had an off day - to say the least....

Do not know what has happened to Tommy.......


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%*&^£^%*^"*&^!"$£^*(^$^*^$%&*

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..X by 3 and add 'Grumpy' Sunday coming up..:(

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yer spot on val hes always been useless.

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Well I sit near Andy Holt and he certainly didn't look happy yesterday 7 games gone 10 points into negative goal difference already anywhere else after last season and if after 3 more games this season if there isn't any sign of improvement even the seemingly unsackable duo must be ready to face the consequences nobody his bigger than the club and I,m not saying a new face will turn it around but I,m beginning to fear the worse.

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[QUOTE=VALAIRIAN;1274334]My good friend, I feel you are a tad hash :)

Shaun Whalley - as always - gave 100% and never stopped running.

Jack Nolan was OK.

Seamus, was Seamus :)

Coyle had an off day - to say the least....

Do not know what has happened to Tommy.......

I repeat Joe !,
Midfield... i wonder if we will ever see any semblance of a desire to attack the opposing defence from them and , wait for it , actually shoot a ball at goal ?.

"Unfit for purpose ". comes to.mind ?

Remember Sir Bobby Robsons paradigm ?... No Goals = No Wins = Relegation !.
Without a better 'Engine Room' the Reds WILL suffer I'm afraid .

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Did anybody else think that Whalley should have had a penalty midway through the second half???


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Yes, but that’s clutching at straws, Val.
My frustrations with the way Stanley play, or are told to play, include that the ‘wing’ players rarely seem to receive the ball unless they are on the half-way line and invariably facing their own goal.
For a text book lesson in an alternative and effective way of playing down the wing, running into the space behind a defence, check out Mansfield’s second goal on iFollow or here…

https://www.skysports.com/watch/vide...two-highlights

Also, Mansfield’s third goal came about because no outfield player made themselves available for a pass from Hills or Mellor, so it was left to Savin to clear it in panic.

As the great man himself once said “ “Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.”

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everybody around us.we played well for approx 25 mins the rest of the game rubbish.

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Straw clutching maybe Exile, but if we got and scored a penalty, it is a different game at 1-2 :)

Not pointing any fingers - at a young lad especially - but at 0-0, Josh had a good chance with a header - it went wide, that goes in and we take the lead, again a different game :)

I understand fully, if, if, if, but it does have a bearing on things...

J.R.B. was booked early - and correctly, I thought.

The lad who scored the 'wonder goal' made a much more aggressive, two footed attempt - missed our lad thankfully, nothing at all was done!!!

J.R.B. was targeted from that card on, throughout the game.

Some say good game management, some say cheating?!?!?!

There is not a person on this planet who can convince me that 3-0 was a true reflection of yesterday :)

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Absolutely agree Val. It was 100% a penalty and at 2-0, we convert the penalty and Stanley would be in the ascendancy and pressing for an equaliser! Totally inept refereeing! If it wasn’t a penalty in the referee’s opinion why did he not yellow card Shaun for simulation? We noted lots of other inconsistencies in the referee’s performance yesterday too. However, poor refereeing does not explain some poor decision making from Stanley at key moments, ie …the goals! For the over head kick goal, Savin, Coyle and Seamus all stood off which gave their lad the time to set himself up. Poor decision by Savin to kick out with his left foot for the third ‘wonder’ goal! Savin had previously botched a couple of attempted left foot clearances earlier in the match. I think that playing Seamus and Coyle together in deep midfield leaves us short of creativity going forward. I was somewhat disappointed with Tommy yesterday and perhaps a fully fit Joe Pritchard could help both Tommy and our creativity going forward. For most of the match we seemed to be playing against twelve men though!
KEEP THE FAITH:theband:
ON STANLEY ON:wave8:

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It's not lack of ambition it's the I,m not spending anymore money on the club and really I want out is what is glaringly apparent to me.

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[QUOTE=VALAIRIAN;1274348]Straw clutching maybe Exile, but if we got and scored a penalty, it is a different game at 1-2 :)

Not pointing any fingers - at a young lad especially - but at 0-0, Josh had a good chance with a header - it went wide, that goes in and we take the lead, again a different game :)

I understand fully, if, if, if, but it does have a bearing on things...

J.R.B. was booked early - and correctly, I thought.

The lad who scored the 'wonder goal' made a much more aggressive, two footed attempt - missed our lad thankfully, nothing at all was done!!!

J.R.B. was targeted from that card on, throughout the game.

Some say good game management, some say cheating?!?!?!

There is not a person on this planet who can convince me that 3-0 was a true reflection of yesterday :)

Your right it could have been 4 or 5.

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From yesterday,s game stats shots on target Stanley 2 Mansfield 5 for a home side 2 on target is abysmal 5 and to score 3 for an away side is good clinical finishing referees good bad or indifferent dictate your shots on target apart from penalties.

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I totally agree with the comments about the standard of refereeing but there is very little we can do to alter it. I also remember complaining about the refs during the season we were promoted, so even if the refs are against us we have been able to win games in the past.

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Not to mention Mansfield fans throwing a second ball onto the pitch in the first half...

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Same as last week Mike, becoming a theme now that we have the 'multi ball' system in place...


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And no-one in the Ivory Towers of Football Admin couldn’t foresee that happening.
But, heh, if the officials just ignore a spare ball lying in the six yard box, what’s the problem! :rolleyes:
Bring back ball boys and girls.

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Mike A and all

You'll be please to hear that this culpret was ejected by the stewards for his actions

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Bob !.. :singer:*

Have you noticed that this thread is almost a facsimile of those which we used to label
" IF " notices in the early days of our Forum ?.
'If' Josh's header had gone in the Goal !
' If' the Referee knew what he was supposed to be doing ?..and had he allowed Shaun's trip/fall/ foul and awarded a penalty !.
' If' the Substitutions at 97 minutes + had, questioning the Mangers strategic nouse,
been made earlier ?.
'If' Stanley had scored 4 goals ?
And, I noticed, an ' If ' from me !.' If Stanley just had a midfield which might go forward for once and then create just one chance in a game '?

Then one wouldn't need to think something which we might think is unthinkable !.."IF the Management Team don't create a situation soon which will allow the Reds to play some football ,then their seemingly well-protected tenure might well become a thing of the past ?"....
" IF" my meandering is seen as harsh and unfeeling towards our team, then put it down to
another trip through my dotage !. All I ask for is something better from the Club which I
have watched, followed , and admired for so long .

See you around Bob.. Keep singing !

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Nice to read a voice of reason instead of doom, gloom & outright panic in some other posts

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“If”…..Malcolm McDowell….1969!

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AccyMad, fans will always see life through a glass 'half-full' or 'half-empty' mindset
And after a heavy home defeat, you're bound to get more pessimism than optimism.
We're all here on this forum because we love the club and whether it's positive or negative, all opinions are valid.
After Saturday, there's a genuine fear that we're in a downward spiral and no one wants to see last years experience repeated.
It's all very well wearing 'rose-tinted' specs, but it's not going to change a 3-0 home defeat - or win a game of football.

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rarely post on here any more, but after typing and deleting a few paragraphs I'd thought better of posting . . . I've come to the conclusion that this shall be my two penn'orth given the realms of what can be construed on social media . . .

Perspective. Humans see what they want to see.

2 striker substitutions made in the 95th minute when 3-0 down!!!!! BEHEAD THE KING!!!

or

2 substitutions ready to come on (waiting for appropriate time to make the change, e.g not defending corner etc) with still approx. 18 minutes of football left (circa 87mins with 15 mins added time) at 2-0 down.

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" IF "... Rudyard Kipling. Circa 1895 !. ( Perhaps a motivating battle cry at the next Training session for the Reds ?).

Not to mention " If " David Gates. 1971 !.. ( Great song ?)

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I knew that you would come up with the real goods Yonmon.
You couldn’t resist my tempting titbit though!:thankya:
The film in 1969 starring Malcolm McDowell was bonkers!:joint::joint::jam1::end:

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" IF "... Rudyard Kipling. Circa 1895 !. ( Perhaps a motivating battle cry at the next Training session for the Reds ?).

Not to mention " If " David Gates. 1971 !.. ( Great song ?)

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Our owner, who has pumped in millions of £s into both the club and the community must be suffering some serious disappointment after witnessing last seasons pub football and then repeated again Saturday last against Millwall.
Lets hope he has money to burn in keeping us propped up.

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Millwall?:confused:

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Thanks choirboy ...Mansfield.

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Oops! Mansfield should have had a penalty?
https://www.skysports.com/football/n...newport-county

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First time watching Stanley for six years, don't know the players but one thing which stood out a mile was the way Stanley used the long high ball 90% of the time, you can't control a ball in the air you simply move it on which gives the opposition all the time in the world to cover you. Where are the players who move the ball around on the ground? The "footballers" who control the game, Stanley are, unfortunately sadly lacking in this department, they need two or three midfielders who can "run" the game, KEEP control, today Stanley looked a poor second.

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Not a great performance by Stanley for sure. Luckily the season's not decided by one game but by 46.