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cashman 23-10-2023 16:56

Re: Just NOT what we need........
 
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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1275037)
Andy told them Cashy and that is the correct thing to have happened :)

And by that I mean Andy told Coley and Co. they had to prove their worth - that is what I have taken from the Twitter posts by Andy?!?!?!

:)

so whats wrong with that?we can all make excuses about injuries last season but we had 45 players.how many were actually injured? when our management failed to encourage the players when sat on the wall.after half time or does that not count?

VALAIRIAN 23-10-2023 17:13

Re: Just NOT what we need........
 
Nothing wrong with Andy telling them.

The stuff all over the Internet is damaging to the Club.

Plenty of players were injured.

Seamus being the stand out miss of last season.

With everything that went wrong last season, we still only just went down by the skin of our teeth......

Coley and Co. have worked miracles over the last 20 years.

Andy has been brilliant for the Club in recent times.



:) :)

VALAIRIAN 23-10-2023 17:43

Re: Just NOT what we need........
 
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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1270769)
Just thinking about the major injuries..........
  • Notts.
  • Seamus.
  • Pritchard.
  • Matt Lowe.
  • Clark.

Who would NOT be playing if these regulars were????

Pressley would not be here I suppose if Lowe was not injured, but who makes way for the rest????

A fit Notts. and Clark MUST play and I suppose the same for Seamus and Joe?


:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1275040)
so whats wrong with that?we can all make excuses about injuries last season but we had 45 players.how many were actually injured? when our management failed to encourage the players when sat on the wall.after half time or does that not count?



Posted on 29/01/2023, from the 'injuries' thread :)


:)

Crown Grounder 24-10-2023 08:35

Re: Just NOT what we need........
 
Time we all got back to doing what we enjoy the most.........Supporting our team. .........Thank you to all those travelling south tonight supporting Stanley.........

And let's make an extra effort to muster extra support at the Wham Stadium on Saturday against Colchester. Bring your Granny, your wife/husband, partner, neighbour, nephew/neice, your friend, cousin, your girlfriend/boyfriend, son or daughter...............
..BRING THEM ALL!......... .......YOUR CLUB NEEDS YOU LIKE NEVER BEFORE!!!!!!

VALAIRIAN 24-10-2023 14:26

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Just out of interest - and this is a genuine question - why are we losing so much money???

Last season must have been one of the best for gate income?

Five season in League one mush have help financially?

Sponsorship must be at the highest level ever?

Kayden, Colby, Dion and Janoi brought in over £3M.



:)

VALAIRIAN 24-10-2023 14:27

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Is it just down to wasting money?????

Too many staff - every department seems to a Manager??

Playing budget???

Long(er) contracts???

Just wondering?????



:) :)

cashman 24-10-2023 15:00

Re: Just NOT what we need........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1275041)
Nothing wrong with Andy telling them.

The stuff all over the Internet is damaging to the Club.

Plenty of players were injured.

Seamus being the stand out miss of last season.

With everything that went wrong last season, we still only just went down by the skin of our teeth......

Coley and Co. have worked miracles over the last 20 years.

Andy has been brilliant for the Club in recent times.

as far as im concerned andy has been brilliant since taking over.

:) :)

in fact hes been the best of all.

Exile on Spencer St 24-10-2023 15:58

Re: Just NOT what we need........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1275060)
Is it just down to wasting money?????

Too many staff - every department seems to a Manager??
Playing budget???
Long(er) contracts???
Just wondering?????
:) :)

All of the above probably plus fines, and medical/physio fees.

Crown Grounder 24-10-2023 16:15

Re: Just NOT what we need........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1275060)
Is it just down to wasting money?????

Too many staff - every department seems to a Manager??

Playing budget???

Long(er) contracts???

Just wondering?????



:) :)

Assume it'll be Player Budget. Would assume that's the single biggest cost. Just hope Andy's malkind profits elsewhere and the Corporate Structure of the WHAM Group allows him to offset Stanley's losses against profits elsewhere saving corporation tax.

MikeA 24-10-2023 17:56

Re: Just NOT what we need........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crown Grounder (Post 1275064)
Assume it'll be Player Budget. Would assume that's the single biggest cost. Just hope Andy's malkind profits elsewhere and the Corporate Structure of the WHAM Group allows him to offset Stanley's losses against profits elsewhere saving corporation tax.

Don't Wilko's owe him £300K+?

Chimer 24-10-2023 22:06

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My two penn'orth fwiw ... agree entirely this uncertainty is obviously not what we need, especially just as results start to be looking up.
  • Without AH, we wouldn't have a football club that is in a comparatively stable and (as far as we know) debt-free financial position.

  • Without JC and JB, we wouldn't have had a club in the Football League at any point in the last 18 years, let alone all of the last 18 years.

  • If either the owner or management have "lost the fans", they can only be those "fans" who think it's a disgrace to play in League 2, as opposed to those of us who know that in fact it's a blooming miracle.
All that said, given last season's slide through the League 1 trapdoor, which at almost any other club would have seen the management team given the old heave-ho, I can't imagine how JB (and presumably JC) could possibly expect to be offered a new contract before proving last season was a blip. Which, thankfully, they now seem to be doing after a somewhat shaky start.

Fear 1 is that if JC and JB go, relegation follows as only they can make this work.

Fear 2 is that if AH goes, a new owner will want shot of JC and JB, producing the same result.

So my fingers are firmly crossed that things settle down and the status quo can prevail. Watching this space ....

VALAIRIAN 25-10-2023 07:22

Re: Just NOT what we need........
 
Well put Chimer :)

NORTHERNSOUL 25-10-2023 23:15

Re: Just NOT what we need........
 
Well my two penneth worth is that after watching the JB interview i.m amazed that he thinks that they would be getting a new 3 or 4 years contract on improved terms.

If it were not for the Kudos they have earned over the last 18 years and the upheaval that it would cause prior to what will be a very important season that could well dictate Accys future for the next decade I think it would have been quite reasonable for them to have been given the order of the boot in the summer.

I.m very surprised that they were ever on 4 year contracts I don't see what the club has to gain from that why not just put them on a rolling 12 month contract as its pretty clear there's no PL clubs coming to snap them up and it gives them a bit of security because I think if AH wanted rid I don't think hed not bother in the slightest what time they had remaining on their contracts.

The bit that I didn't get not being there was the stuff about AH losing the fans on Saturday was that correct ? Was it the result of the JC/JB interviews or did something else happen ?

Unless they kiss and make up very quickly I cant see them lasting the season out as the only other scenario that sees them staying is that AH gets a quick sale from somebody who wants to keep them

VALAIRIAN 26-10-2023 09:00

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I took the bit about losing the fans as the low gates????


:)

VALAIRIAN 26-10-2023 09:01

Re: Just NOT what we need........
 
Unless it is because plenty of people support John and Jimmy because of everything they have done????


:)


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