Alcohol yobs - what is the answer?

panther · 17-01-2008, 19:50

seen this in the telegraph...........
Alcohol Yobs What Is The Answer (from Lancashire Telegraph)

what do you think?

cashman · 17-01-2008, 20:11

on the news tonight the government blames the magistrates,for granting bail,the magistrates blame the government cos of the weak reasons they have to grant bail, so to me,until people are aware of who is telling porkies, ya dont even know WHO to lobby for a change in things? something obviously needs to be seriously looked at, but WHERE do you start?

slinky · 17-01-2008, 20:15

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Originally Posted by panther

seen this in the telegraph...........
Alcohol Yobs What Is The Answer (from Lancashire Telegraph)

what do you think?

Put them all in boarding schools. Let the little brats kick each others heads in.
Would get them off the streets where decent folk should be left to live in peace.

SamF · 17-01-2008, 20:23

Haha, I love the idea that upping the price will stop all the problems. Sure, you'll get less people drinking. Tenner for a few pills, even less for a joint, why the hell pay more than that when all these lot are doing is drinking to get wasted.

Contrary to popular belief it has got a lot harder with the ID21 scheme to buy drink underage... though to my amusement confused licensees refused to sell my friend a bottle of wine, despite the fact he had legit ID to prove he was 18 and would only sell him something <10%

Sites such as this Photo-ID UK - Fake ID - Photo I.D. do allow them god awful hoodlum youth terrorists that are destroying society and the world, hell the universe to get hold of booze at some off licenses, though hardly ever at pubs or clubs.

The problem is with family members buying the drink, normally an older brother or sister.

~ AccyWeb's resident underage drinker

shillelagh · 17-01-2008, 20:25

simple ban alcohol!!!

SamF · 17-01-2008, 20:27

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simple ban alcohol!!!

Results from the heh, "Pilot Study" in the US early 20th Century didn't come back to good. And again, it just pushes people onto drugs, already the cheaper option.

WillowTheWhisp · 17-01-2008, 21:54

I'm quite shocked at the mother's attitude in that article when the police brought her drunken daughter home.

cashman · 17-01-2008, 23:20

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I'm quite shocked at the mother's attitude in that article when the police brought her drunken daughter home.

as the child was young a mother like hers is the one that should be prosecuted.

blazey · 17-01-2008, 23:24

I think the majority of people had a drink when they were underage some way or another. The problem, if it is a problem, is the parents for allowing their children to drink on the streets. Many 14yr olds+ drink without ever causing any trouble though, mainly because they look old enough to get into the pubs, and then are around older company.

Thats my opinion anyway. I dont know anyone who waited til they were 18 to first get drunk, unless they dont drink for health/religious reasons which is fair enough.

hedman2003 · 17-01-2008, 23:25

What about parental responsibility? we can blame the police, schools, the courts etc but the principles of respect comes from the home.

How can parents allow their teens and younger to drink and come home smashed out of their brains and can't be bothered.

As a teenager we met on street corners and in hindsight to some we may have been percieved as a threat however we were in a community were the majority of us were known and any nonsense would have been fed back to our parents and potentially a clip round the ear

the lack of respect within the community is not restricted to young people when I see parents effing and jeffin to their kids in makes me very concerned for my kids as they grow up

cashman · 17-01-2008, 23:35

most people dont wait till there 18 blazey,i certainly didn,t, but if ya get caught n the parents cant be bothered then DO em. many kids do not cause trouble n have a couple, but at the end of the day- ya break the law- ya pay the piper, you of all people should appreciate that.

blazey · 17-01-2008, 23:35

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Originally Posted by hedman2003

What about parental responsibility? we can blame the police, schools, the courts etc but the principles of respect comes from the home.

How can parents allow their teens and younger to drink and come home smashed out of their brains and can't be bothered.

As a teenager we met on street corners and in hindsight to some we may have been percieved as a threat however we were in a community were the majority of us were known and any nonsense would have been fed back to our parents and potentially a clip round the ear

the lack of respect within the community is not restricted to young people when I see parents effing and jeffin to their kids in makes me very concerned for my kids as they grow up

Dont send them to university then, the majority of my lecturers 'eff and jeff'. One of my lecturers says bollocks alot. Good for making me pay attention.

firth_dawn · 18-01-2008, 00:27

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Originally Posted by hedman2003

What about parental responsibility? we can blame the police, schools, the courts etc but the principles of respect comes from the home.

How can parents allow their teens and younger to drink and come home smashed out of their brains and can't be bothered.

As a teenager we met on street corners and in hindsight to some we may have been percieved as a threat however we were in a community were the majority of us were known and any nonsense would have been fed back to our parents and potentially a clip round the ear

the lack of respect within the community is not restricted to young people when I see parents effing and jeffin to their kids in makes me very concerned for my kids as they grow up

i totally agree with you what is this world coming too.

WillowTheWhisp · 18-01-2008, 09:13

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Originally Posted by hedman2003

As a teenager we met on street corners and in hindsight to some we may have been percieved as a threat however we were in a community were the majority of us were known and any nonsense would have been fed back to our parents and potentially a clip round the ear

the lack of respect within the community is not restricted to young people when I see parents effing and jeffin to their kids in makes me very concerned for my kids as they grow up

Unfortunately clips round ear'oles are no longer permitted in today's society, and I do feel that's half the problem. And I do agree that the example of crude language set by adults doesn't really give one much confidence for the future. I don't think this is progress at all. When you look back a couple of generations the words commonly heard in the streets today would have evoked shock and horror. To me it's very sad.

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Originally Posted by blazey

Dont send them to university then, the majority of my lecturers 'eff and jeff'. One of my lecturers says bollocks alot. Good for making me pay attention.

Is it any wonder there is a lack of respectful attitude these days when university lecturers behave like this? Do they feel it gives them some sort of street cred status?

I feel it's all part of the slippery slope we are sliding down. If a university lecturer effed and jeffed at me I would complain. I don't like to hear it and certainly don't think students should be subjected to it by those they should be able to look up to. They should aspire to better things.

Yes I know many students use the same language themselves but not all do and it's a shame that they are not set a better example.

panther · 18-01-2008, 13:11

kids have a lack of respect and morals ....bring back borstal, that will wake the ****s up!

also name and shame the kids that do commit a crime, not hide there identity, they think they big enough to do these crimes, then they big enough to be identified!