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02-05-2008, 13:18
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Re: Local Election Results
I should add that the main reason for this change of heart is possibly a temporary one, as I think there is a genuine difficulty in defining who is actually representing who at the moment. Seems to be confusion over who both the Labour party and the Conservatives are representing and it is leading to people genuinely feeling like they are just being deceived somewhere and probably going to be let down again.
I have some pretty committed Labour friends at University, even more so than tory boy Cyfr to the tories, and he genuinely didn't know what to do at elections. If someone who understands and studies politics doesn't know what to do than how can the ordinary citizen?
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02-05-2008, 13:20
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Re: Local Election Results
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Originally Posted by blazey
I should add that the main reason for this change of heart is possibly a temporary one, as I think there is a genuine difficulty in defining who is actually representing who at the moment. Seems to be confusion over who both the Labour party and the Conservatives are representing and it is leading to people genuinely feeling like they are just being deceived somewhere and probably going to be let down again.
I have some pretty committed Labour friends at University, even more so than tory boy Cyfr to the tories, and he genuinely didn't know what to do at elections. If someone who understands and studies politics doesn't know what to do than how can the ordinary citizen?
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Who doesn't know what to do?
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02-05-2008, 13:21
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Re: Local Election Results
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Who doesn't know what to do?
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A friend of mine at university, did I not make that clear, I apologise I obviously wasn't referring to anyone here though, I don't think I have any 'labour friends' on accyweb
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02-05-2008, 13:28
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Re: Local Election Results
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A friend of mine at university, did I not make that clear, I apologise I obviously wasn't referring to anyone here though, I don't think I have any 'labour friends' on accyweb
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I do apologise, I thought you were referring to me so I was a bit confused.
Are you saying this person is a labour member, studies politics and doesnt know how to vote?
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02-05-2008, 13:44
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Re: Local Election Results
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Maybe but out of the 12 wards voted on last night Labour only took a third of them. The majority of yesterdays wards were already Tory.
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Your quite right Neil, that's why I cant understand where Rindi is coming from you can't make big gains when you already have the lions share
We were defending 7 and fighting 5 one of which we won 1 Altham
we defended St Andrews, St. Oswalds, Netherton, Overton, Central, Baxenden and Barnfield. of the other 4 we haven't won Springhill and Peel since Adam was a lad, we have very little chance of winning Church since the boundry changes a few years ago and in Rishton, Labour have very popular councillor in Harry Grayson, who is the face of the hospice and is very well known and liked in the town. If Labour were as good as Graham Joneses mouth makes them out to be then they would have been pusing hard to win in our 7 Tory held seats, but the thing is they didn't really trouble the scorers, in fact I believe we called it a day at 6pm in Ossy, job done, and I think Labour came 3rd in St Andrews, behind the wandering Liberal, who I don't think knocked on a door or even put out any leaflets. I'll settle for that performance every year, especially only 1 years ago labour had a 41 seat majority
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02-05-2008, 13:52
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Re: Local Election Results
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Ya we did have a Tory MP but we will be very luck to ever have one again, the goal posts have been moved, I think they used to call it Gerrymandering. When you look back to 1996 the council was 44 Labour 3 Conservative, there are now just 35 seats, but I cant ever see the Tories having say 30 to 5 advantage, as I said in my earlier post we have to wor hard to keep power
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Or cheat. I see the Police have been called in this year. Three old ladies voted Labour (as they wanted) through 'a man (who said he was) from the Council' who came around to get them to sign a form so they didn't have to go to the Polling Station. Three supporters of XXXXXXXX returned proxy votes for XXXXXXXXXX. That's just the tip. The Lib Dems are going mad are several issues they found.
Last year you were found out doing a votes for favour's (part of the Taxi Licences to sex offenders for votes) but you won't release the report. (Because your in it up to your neck) Well I've seen it and so has Jean Battle. Now it can't be found! Not released even to Councillor's because of 'race relations' issues.
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02-05-2008, 13:57
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Re: Local Election Results
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I do apologise, I thought you were referring to me so I was a bit confused.
Are you saying this person is a labour member, studies politics and doesnt know how to vote?
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Obviously he knows HOW to vote, I meant he is in a dilemma as to whether Labour actually still actually represent his views anymore, and there are a lot of people like this knocking around.
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02-05-2008, 14:18
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Re: Local Election Results
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Last year you were found out doing a votes for favour's (part of the Taxi Licences to sex offenders for votes) but you won't release the report. (Because your in it up to your neck) Well I've seen it and so has Jean Battle. Now it can't be found! Not released even to Councillor's because of 'race relations' issues.
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Thats very interesting
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02-05-2008, 14:34
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Re: Local Election Results
In all the excitment, we should acknowledge that one of our regular members has been elected for the first time so we should congratulate her.
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02-05-2008, 14:37
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Re: Local Election Results
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In all the excitment, we should acknowledge that one of our regular members has been elected for the first time so we should congratulate her.
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Would be nicer to congratulate her in a thread that doesn't have so much negative vibe to it perhaps
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02-05-2008, 14:48
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Re: Local Election Results
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Would be nicer to congratulate her in a thread that doesn't have so much negative vibe to it perhaps
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It wouldn't be so bad if we knew who she is
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02-05-2008, 14:56
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Re: Local Election Results
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In all the excitment, we should acknowledge that one of our regular members has been elected for the first time so we should congratulate her.
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Can we have guesses at it?...I'll go for Lynn Wilson in Netherton and I reckon her nom-de-plume is "Lilly". A total shot in the dark, of course...am I warm?
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02-05-2008, 15:01
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Re: Local Election Results
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Or cheat. I see the Police have been called in this year. Three old ladies voted Labour (as they wanted) through 'a man (who said he was) from the Council' who came around to get them to sign a form so they didn't have to go to the Polling Station. Three supporters of XXXXXXXX returned proxy votes for XXXXXXXXXX. That's just the tip. The Lib Dems are going mad are several issues they found.
Last year you were found out doing a votes for favour's (part of the Taxi Licences to sex offenders for votes) but you won't release the report. (Because your in it up to your neck) Well I've seen it and so has Jean Battle. Now it can't be found! Not released even to Councillor's because of 'race relations' issues.
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Well Graham seeing we are talking about the happenings of yesterday can you shed any light on what I have been hearing that there was an assult on Councillor Britcliffe at last nights count
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02-05-2008, 15:03
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Re: Local Election Results
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Can we have guesses at it?...I'll go for Lynn Wilson in Netherton and I reckon her nom-de-plume is "Lilly". A total shot in the dark, of course...am I warm?
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Changed my mind, I now think it's Sue Howarth in Altham, but I still reckon it's "Lily".
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02-05-2008, 15:22
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Re: Local Election Results
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30% increase in a target ward, I am not at all disappointed!
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So what was the target ward?
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