£1 Million Spend in Oswaldtwistle - Page 3

park381 · 11-12-2005, 18:56

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Originally Posted by garinda

I still think a mini-roundabout would have been more cost effective, and resulted in the same ends, namely slowing people down as they tear along Haslingden Old Road.

No, not in this case a mini-roundabout would not solve the problem, the problem lies with the aproach roads.
1. From the direction of the brown cow, straight and fast
2. From the direction of duckworth hall, fast with a hill blocking the view
3. From guide, well you got to slow down there, but the problem is judging the speed of traffic coming from the brown cow direction, and vehicles coming from duckworth hall side are on you before you have chance to say " slow down you idiot"
4. From the new lane side, just the same as No3.
All these roads are subject to a speed limit, but not observed, the problem is with vehicles from 3&4 trying to judge the speed of oncoming vehicles, you may get it right, but if you get it wrong..........say no more. So a "real" roundabout must be the answer

garinda · 11-12-2005, 19:16

I totally agree that the problem is the speed of the traffic along Haslingden Old Road. Perhaps I'm just thick but exactly the same principles apply to mini-roundabouts as ones that are going to cost something approaching a million quid. Both would have signs warning that you were approaching a roundabout, and you would have to slow down and stop to give way to traffic from the right.

Neil · 11-12-2005, 19:28

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Originally Posted by garinda

Perhaps I'm just thick

An admission at last

park381 · 11-12-2005, 19:33

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Originally Posted by garinda

I totally agree that the problem is the speed of the traffic along Haslingden Old Road. Perhaps I'm just thick but exactly the same principles apply to mini-roundabouts as ones that are going to cost something approaching a million quid. Both would have signs warning that you were approaching a roundabout, and you would have to slow down and stop to give way to traffic from the right.

Hey, does it matter they are spending it in ossy, and solving a major road safety problem in the process

garinda · 11-12-2005, 22:44

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Originally Posted by park381

Hey, does it matter they are spending it in ossy, and solving a major road safety problem in the process

Yes if it means we keep more green and less tarmac. I remember this road when it was a quite country junction, and I don't want to see another concrete junction there if a less draconian measure would achieve the same result.

Neil · 11-12-2005, 22:48

Since the M65 extension it is now a major traffic route to and from Oswaldtwistle and therefore needs sorting out properly.

garinda · 11-12-2005, 22:58

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Originally Posted by Neil

Since the M65 extension it is now a major traffic route to and from Oswaldtwistle and therefore needs sorting out properly.

Yes it is. I'm not an ostrich. I stand by my original statement that a mini-roundabout would achieve the same effect as a major roundabout, for less money and with less effect on our environment.

Neil · 11-12-2005, 23:00

The site was classed as not suitable for mini roundabout or traffic lights. I am not a road planner so I can't explain why.

garinda · 11-12-2005, 23:07

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Originally Posted by Neil

The site was classed as not suitable for mini roundabout or traffic lights. I am not a road planner so I can't explain why.

I'm not blaming you as the messenger Neil.

Strangely though I'm seeing a room full of boys in road planning, who can no longer play with their Tonka toys, and who have scant regard for the environment.

Get`A`Grip · 12-12-2005, 04:27

just build a bridge then nobody as to stop, and if you look on e-bay you might find one on the cheap.

park381 · 23-12-2005, 22:03

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Originally Posted by Get`A`Grip

just build a bridge then nobody as to stop, and if you look on e-bay you might find one on the cheap.

At the speed some of the vehicles come from the duckworth hall side a ramp would do the job, don't think they would "land" until they reached the brown cow.
A roundabout and a real one at that is the only answer to that junction.

garinda · 24-12-2005, 00:04

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Originally Posted by park381

A roundabout and a real one at that is the only answer to that junction.

In your humble opinion, though of course you're wrong. A mini-roundabout would achieve the same means.

park381 · 24-12-2005, 08:57

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Originally Posted by garinda

In your humble opinion, though of course you're wrong. A mini-roundabout would achieve the same means.

And in the opinion of the Highway Planners, who I think are more qualified than you to determine what will and what won't work.

Ber999T · 24-12-2005, 12:27

Grinda sorry but Neil is right. I have to go over that junction sometimes with blues and 2's going but still have to stop if coming from Guide or Ossy as traffic on Haslingden Old Rd cant see me till I get into middle of road. Mini-roundabouts are ok where you have good sight of all roads but even then some drivers dont know that they "Have to give way to traffic from their Right" and many a time I have had to anchor on to these idots even with B&2's going. Would love to be able to film and post what happens sometimes when having to drive under E conditions.

a full size roundabout is the only answer for the cross roads

park381 · 24-12-2005, 12:37

I think Ber999T's post says it all.