Conservation area?

garinda · 31-05-2006, 19:52

My cousin's hairdressers had their window and door broke by vandals this weekend. She can't have pull down shutters to prevent this happening yet again because her shop is in the 'conservation area'. My brother's shop further up Union Road is allowed to have them.

It all seems very confusing.

Where exactly is the conservation area in Ossy?

It all seems a bit arbitrary. As meandering as the course of Union Road itself.

Gayle · 31-05-2006, 20:59

I didn't know either - I wonder where we could go to find out?

garinda · 31-05-2006, 21:41

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Originally Posted by Gayle

I didn't know either - I wonder where we could go to find out?

Perhaps Jaysay will have a word with Peter and proffer a map.

Uncle Mick · 01-06-2006, 12:28

Ar`nt you in the conservation area Gayle, Straits and Town Hall area I think.

garinda · 01-06-2006, 13:13

According to this HBC document the three places listed as being in the conservation area in Oswaldtwistle are Stanhill, the Straits, and Rhyddings.

I can find no further details about where the areas exactly start and finish. 'Rhyddings' seems the most vague of all. Where do they mean, Rhyddings School, Rhyddings St. or Rhyddings Park?

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/Your_Co...pages/ch04.htm

Neil · 01-06-2006, 15:19

Ok Gary seeing as you have asked I have badly shown the area on this picture. I managed to miss the corner of the park off but all the park is in. It tends to follow back's of terraced houses and along the centre of Union Road.

Shady McGough · 01-06-2006, 16:52

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Originally Posted by Neil

Ok Gary seeing as you have asked I have badly shown the area on this picture. I managed to miss the corner of the park off but all the park is in. It tends to follow back's of terraced houses and along the centre of Union Road.

That's really good cos I live in Ossy and I didn't know where it was. Does it seem daft to anyone that they'd make one side of Union road part of it and not the other side?

Gayle · 01-06-2006, 20:17

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Originally Posted by Uncle Mick

Ar`nt you in the conservation area Gayle, Straits and Town Hall area I think.

I don't think so - I know I live near the Straits but not on it and not according to Neil's map.

garinda · 01-06-2006, 21:48

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Originally Posted by Gayle

I don't think so - I know I live near the Straits but not on it and not according to Neil's map.

According to Neil's phone call that is just the 'Rhyddings' conservation area.

The whole thing seems flawed. What criteria was used to decide which buildings were to be included? It certainly wasn't the date of building. Some houses are missed off it and some built later are included.

Interesting to note that the shop with the illuminated gun sign is in the conservation area area, even though according to the HBC link I posted such signage would seem to fall foul of their own rules.

Also interesting is that the ladies hairdressers at the end of Rhyddings Street is in the conservation area and does have window shutters, which according to the guidelines are illegal.

What is the point of this meaningless title of 'conservation area' if council rules are flouted and no one does anything about it. The whole thing is a farce.

Unsuprisingly a search on Hyndburn Borough Council's website for 'conservation' comes back with no match.

Neil · 02-06-2006, 06:15

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Originally Posted by Shady McGough

Does it seem daft to anyone that they'd make one side of Union road part of it and not the other side?

Not to me, I think they have only included the nice bits

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Originally Posted by garinda

What is the point of this meaningless title of 'conservation area' if council rules are flouted and no one does anything about it. The whole thing is a farce.

More fundemental than that Gary is why do we have a Conservation Area when no conserving happens?
What do you think a Conservation Area should mean?
I know I am not allowed to cut bits of my trees without giving the Council 6 weeks notice of intent in case they want to stick a preservation order on them. I do though every year or else someone might loose an eye as every year one of them is also hanging low over the footpath.
The thing that annoys me most is the fact that Rhyddings Park is in the Conservation Area, I have never seen any conservation going on in the park. I barely see any routine daily maintenance going on. That is why I got involved with the Friends group in the first place. Since Hyndburn Homes took over the housing stock the Parks Department lost several grounds people to Hyndburn Homes. Some one on the management side at HBC decided that they needed less people now they don't have to look after the grounds around the houses. So Hyndburn now has the massive number of 8 grounds people to look after 11 parks. A park like Rhyddings needs at least 2 people full time, we had 1 full time person last year and he could not cope on his own.
Ok moan over, sorry folks.

garinda · 03-06-2006, 09:34

You may well be moaning more soon because Peter Britcliffe said in this week's Observer he wants the council to take less responsibility for the borough's parks and that 'the people' should run them. You may have to give up your full time paid employment but at least you won't get caught up in traffic getting to and from work.

I'm very disappointed no councillor, or friends of our council leader have bothered to explain the criteria of the conservation area.

Where is it exactly?

What criteria was used?

What is done to make sure rules aren't flouted?

Why is there no mention of the conversation areas on Hyndburn Life?

garinda · 03-06-2006, 09:36

They were very vocal on here recently at election time, but now not a muff.

firefighter753 · 03-06-2006, 18:32

The straits conservation area a burnt out fire station at one end and a burnt out old folks home at the other.

garinda · 04-06-2006, 00:35

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The straits conservation area a burnt out fire station at one end and a burnt out old folks home at the other.

Peel Court apparently isn't in the conservation area as the Rhyddings one finishes at the Townhall.

The fire station who knows. From the arbitrary way it leaves some buildings out it may not be in the Straits conservation area. If it is one would have hoped that when LCC sold it to the mystery Suffolk buyer they would have asked what they planned to do with it rather than let it stand empty.

Still no comments from councillors or councillor's friends?

Shame.

Neil · 04-06-2006, 08:06

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Originally Posted by garinda

You may well be moaning more soon because Peter Britcliffe said in this week's Observer he wants the council to take less responsibility for the borough's parks and that 'the people' should run them.

That was the intention when The Friends of Rhyddings Park was initially formed. Rhyddings is the devolution of parks pilot scheme.