Homes at ‘pickle works’

[WillowTheWhisp]

Nothing wrong with building more houses - just why do they have to be 3 story?

[Gayle]

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Nothing wrong with building more houses - just why do they have to be 3 story?

More houses on the same space of land!

I'm not saying that as a positive because I don't particularly like the idea of a three storey house, but even so, I'm sure that's why the developers do it.

[park381]

Originally Posted by Gayle

More houses on the same space of land!

I'm not saying that as a positive because I don't particularly like the idea of a three storey house, but even so, I'm sure that's why the developers do it.

3 storey means more floor area in the house, and as you say on the same plot of land as a normal 2 storey house, also at not a lot of extra cost to the builder.
My son lives in a new 3 storey house in St Helens, they have finished up having a conservatory built on at the back, to save them keep going up to the 1st floor lounge.

[WillowTheWhisp]

I've seen some with a garage and utility room on the bottom and then lounge kitchen etc on level one and the bedrooms above that so I suppose it does save on ground space.

[park381]

Thought I had seen an article regarding the number of new homes built, this may be why HBC have decided not to oppose the appeal by Barratt homes as indicated by HBC's Development Control Officer in the Telegraph

see article
Developer Welcomes Building Regulation (from Lancashire Telegraph)

[park381]

Have spent a little time searching through HBC's website, in the main the planning section. The initial application by Barretts 11/07/0213 was recommended for acceptance by HBC's Planning Officers, it was turn down by the Planning Committee, HBC will not apose the appeal.

What I have found is posted as a link below, so much for the objections of the villagers

The document is well worth a read, very interesting.

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...pla_report.pdf

[park381]

The latest report on the subject, looks like its all done and dusted.

Villagers In A Pickle At Plan (from Lancashire Telegraph)

[garinda]

Originally Posted by park381

3 storey means more floor area in the house, and as you say on the same plot of land as a normal 2 storey house, also at not a lot of extra cost to the builder.
My son lives in a new 3 storey house in St Helens, they have finished up having a conservatory built on at the back, to save them keep going up to the 1st floor lounge.

There were lots of three story houses built in the C18th, as hand-loom weavers cottages, though not in Stanhill.

Personally I can't wait to see the back of the 'pickle factory'. It should never have been passed in the first place, and any housing will be an improvement on that eyesore.

[park381]

Originally Posted by garinda

There were lots of three story houses built in the C18th, as hand-loom weavers cottages, though not in Stanhill.

Personally I can't wait to see the back of the 'pickle factory'. It should never have been passed in the first place, and any housing will be an improvement on that eyesore.

I don't disagree with you on that one, but think the residents of stanhill will have a different view on the subject.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by park381

I don't disagree with you on that one, but think the residents of stanhill will have a different view on the subject.

As a former Stanhill resident that is my opinion, though as you say, might not be the opinion of all those johnny come latelys.

[park381]

Originally Posted by garinda

As a former Stanhill resident that is my opinion, though as you say, might not be the opinion of all those johnny come latelys.

From whats been quoted in the press there are 200 residents that have that opinion

[garinda]

Originally Posted by park381

From whats been quoted in the press there are 200 residents that have that opinion

There wasn't 200 people in the photograph they used in the press, and I didn't see M. Mouse.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

There were lots of three story houses built in the C18th, as hand-loom weavers cottages, though not in Stanhill.

Personally I can't wait to see the back of the 'pickle factory'. It should never have been passed in the first place, and any housing will be an improvement on that eyesore.

Just a point Rindi i.e it should never have been passed in the first place. I actually think that the plans were passed before you were born, I can remembe my late father working on that building before I was in my teens, unless there have been more updates in recent years which I can't remember.

[MargaretR]

park381 posted this link
http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...pla_report.pdf
In it it shows in detail the reasons why the residents object.

The reasons which hold most weight with me are
1- The high density development will increase the population substantially which will overload the mains services - water and sewerage - The sewerage system is already subject to flooding and overflow, and is not due to be replaced for 15 years yet.
2- The development does not make adequate provision for parking by the new residents who will inevitably resort to main road parking which is already causing problems at the present popluation level.

These 2 points have been overshadowed by the '3 storey' argument, but are valid reasons for objection in their own right.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Just a point Rindi i.e it should never have been passed in the first place. I actually think that the plans were passed before you were born, I can remembe my late father working on that building before I was in my teens, unless there have been more updates in recent years which I can't remember.

I know. I'm told the brick facade was added in the late fifties, ten years before I arrived.

I still think it's an eyesore. As for the planned new houses, I think it is inevitable, though I do totally see the need for them to be in keeping with the village, and not to overshadow the existing cottages, something the 'pickle factory' currently does.