James St Club

[accyman]

Originally Posted by onlyme

lets hope not eh? lol

And incidentally theres an white bloke that parks on the zig zags outside school every bloody day....

Like i say the point i am trying to make is that the council should have looked at the maximum occupancy of the function room, and decided if the area could handle the traffic this will cause.

yup

the should give lollipop ladies the power to hand out fines for parents parking on zigzags etc and give them a commisuon on every ticket issued ,infact i think parking wardens shoud be able to issue the 3 points that go with parking on zigzags but currently they can only give a fine

pitty eh

[firefighter753]

lets hope not eh? lol

And incidentally theres an white bloke that parks on the zig zags outside school every bloody day....

Like i say the point i am trying to make is that the council should have looked at the maximum occupancy of the function room, and decided if the area could handle the traffic this will cause.

Your quite correct Onlyme every event can cause problems and inconsiderate parking at schools, football clubs etc is a major problem for emergency services.

The area around St Mary's church on a sunday morning was a problem but we approached the priest after a fire appliance was hampered responding to a house fire on Hawthorne Avenue and the problem got better, but I'll not go into that or I will be accused of being prejudice against catholics.

I am sincere when I say this is not a race issue, just a concern that these events are so well attended that the parking becomes a real issue, and the roads around James St are narrow and tight at the best of times. If people park to near a junction for instance a fire appliance has no chance of turning into that street.

James st club in its hay day was licenced for 600 but never got that full, and if there was a function on 90% of people walked or got taxis the rest parked on the car park, traffic issues were never a problem.

firefighter raised a valid concern and it was suggested it was because the place was going to be used by asians , if he indeed is a firefighter is the next accusation going to be that he climbs ladders more slowly when rescueing an asian from a burning house ?

Nothing would suprise me Accyman the way people on here twist things and make it sound like its race that you have an issue with, I say again Inconsiderate parking due to well attended events is the issue here nothing else. And I would like to state that I will always put my life on the line and enter burning buildings no matter what colour, sex or shape the victim is as fast as I possibly could, even you 'Less', the only thing that would slow me down is not being able to get a fire appliance into or down a street due to inconsiderate parking.

[broadhurst7173]

Originally Posted by derekgas

go and watch one they are very eye opening but part of the celebration is about 100+ males in hired powerfull cars (usually merc convertables) driving around pipping horns with music blaring, then they go driving like idiots and we end up cutting them out, I can't remember such events when it was a WMC.

No change there then, I thought that was just the idiot taxi drivers![/quote]

they have been holding them there without permission then, because a few times we have seen what you explain about the cars and music, the cars are really something else they turn up in, top of the range money cars, so they have started already. this started last year.

[polly]

What a load of twaddle this all thread is!
All Asian weddings are not the same, all Asians dont use the same mode of transport to get to their weddings. Infact they are very like no Asian weddings, some will want to have limos but not all. If it is just for weddings the club is going to be u sed mainly in the summer months and will be quiet at other times of the year. surely it is better that the building is used than not used? Would people rather see it fall apart from neglect? How long has iot been empty now?
Thinking about it I can't see it being that big a hit with weddings as there are no grounds outside for pictures

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by onlyme

lets hope not eh? lol

And incidentally theres an white bloke that parks on the zig zags outside school every bloody day....

Like i say the point i am trying to make is that the council should have looked at the maximum occupancy of the function room, and decided if the area could handle the traffic this will cause.

I agree onlyme on the parking, but I may be wrong in thinking that before planning is granted parking HAS to be concidered by law, I'm sure if I'm wrong Accy Webs resident planning officer katex will put me straight

[katex]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I agree onlyme on the parking, but I may be wrong in thinking that before planning is granted parking HAS to be concidered by law, I'm sure if I'm wrong Accy Webs resident planning officer katex will put me straight

Eew hek Jaysay, raising me above my limited knowledge ..

Would think that parking will be one of the highest priorities for passing/not passing these plans Jaysay .. they do intend to amend the structure of the car park, but without a visit to Scaitcliffe House, can't tell to what extent (another plug to get them to put these up on their web site )

Really don't think will come up as an issue though .. look at the parking around the Civic Theatre when there is an event. Wonder if any of the residents have objected on these grounds ? Would be the only objection I would imagine.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by katex

Eew hek Jaysay, raising me above my limited knowledge ..

Would think that parking will be one of the highest priorities for passing/not passing these plans Jaysay .. they do intend to amend the structure of the car park, but without a visit to Scaitcliffe House, can't tell to what extent (another plug to get them to put these up on their web site )

Really don't think will come up as an issue though .. look at the parking around the Civic Theatre when there is an event. Wonder if any of the residents have objected on these grounds ? Would be the only objection I would imagine.

Civic theatre is a different kettle of fish kate, both the civic theatre and the surrounding houses have been there years, and as far as I can remember parking as always been a problem, I lived in Monarch Street upto leving home in the mid sixties, and my Father lived there until he died 5 years ago, and there has never really been a change of use as the theatre part has always been used for events. James street is different, there needs to be planning permission for change of use and as you say and I thought parking has to be concidered

[Tealeaf]

There is a simple solution to all this nonsense about illegal parking in big Mercs. It's called a screwdriver, which just happens to stick out of your bag as you have to squeeze past said vehicles.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Tealeaf

There is a simple solution to all this nonsense about illegal parking in big Mercs. It's called a screwdriver, which just happens to stick out of your bag as you have to squeeze past said vehicles.

Shock horror Tealeafthats illegal isn't it

[man4u50s]

Hi, I live just round the corner from the club and can see what problems would be caused, i think something needs to be added if the planning is going to be approved, 1st there will be a problem parking and they should monitor this when functions are on also when the club is not being used it should be open to local residents for community meetings etc and posibly a centre where the teenages could go at night...just a thought, Frank

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by man4u50s

Hi, I live just round the corner from the club and can see what problems would be caused, i think something needs to be added if the planning is going to be approved, 1st there will be a problem parking and they should monitor this when functions are on also when the club is not being used it should be open to local residents for community meetings etc and posibly a centre where the teenages could go at night...just a thought, Frank

When the people of Stanhill opposed the planning application for Barrett housing, one of their many grounds for objection was problem parking - ie the development did not provide enough on its site and inevitably main road parking would increase.

I suggest that a document signed by nearby residents be sent to the planning committee - pointing out that the new users of the club are not expected to be alcohol consumers and are therefore far more likely to arrive in cars and park

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by man4u50s

Hi, I live just round the corner from the club and can see what problems would be caused, i think something needs to be added if the planning is going to be approved, 1st there will be a problem parking and they should monitor this when functions are on also when the club is not being used it should be open to local residents for community meetings etc and posibly a centre where the teenages could go at night...just a thought, Frank

There is a purpose built Youth Club not very far from James Steet, and a community centre next to that, you have also to remember that this will be privately owned.

[katex]

See there is an Planning Application for change of use to Restaurant and Function Hall from Snooker Hall on Richmond Road, Accrington... Mr. Nazakat Ali. Wonder if for the same type of purpose as per St. James's Club ?