Porn to be banned by ISP's?

[MargaretR]

The emphasis seems to be on stopping people viewing porn, when they should be spending resources on preventing the production of photos and films depicting abuse of children.

Stop the abusers and those who photograph it and there won't be anything to watch.

I know it is unrealistic to expect that the problem can be totally eradicated from society, but from what I have learned about child abuse since the Saville scandal broke, the law enforcers are being prevented from pursuing some sections of society who are abusers, on the the grounds of political expediency eg Ministers, MPs, judges.

They have thrown you the minnows - celebs and some priests, and tell you - 'no stone will remain unturned', when there are boulders that are being buried.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

The emphasis seems to be on stopping people viewing porn, when they should be spending resources on preventing the production of photos and films depicting abuse of children.

Stop the abusers and those who photograph it and there won't be anything to watch.

I know it is unrealistic to expect that the problem can be totally eradicated from society, but from what I have learned about child abuse since the Saville scandal broke, the law enforcers are being prevented from pursuing some sections of society who are abusers, on the the grounds of political expediency eg Ministers, MPs, judges.

They have thrown you the minnows - celebs and some priests, and tell you - 'no stone will remain unturned', when there are boulders that are being buried.

This to me is the wisest observation on the thread.

[gpick24]

This isn`t trying to stop adults watching child porn, although search engines will have to block illegal content, the isp customer will be blocked from watching regular porn, that is, consenting adults doing what adults do. The new filters are to stop children seeing it.

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by gpick24

This isn`t trying to stop adults watching child porn, although search engines will have to block illegal content, the isp customer will be blocked from watching regular porn, that is, consenting adults doing what adults do. The new filters are to stop children seeing it.

Stuff and nonsense my friend.

The playground will be full of exploits and loopholes to override the filters. What it will cause, is ordinary people who want to look at the 'blue hahn cock' plinth in trafalgar square to be forced to opt-in and thus allow big brother to know that you are an opt-in and therefore a potential problem.

'M'lud, this man is an opt-in, what does that tell you of his character?'

[gpick24]

Originally Posted by Guinness

Stuff and nonsense my friend.

The playground will be full of exploits and loopholes to override the filters.

Not saying it will work, it has already been mentioned how the determined will still be able to watch. But maybe it will stop the not so determined, just the curious who do a search, get stopped by the filters, then go back to the underwear section of their mums Littlewoods catalogue.

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by gpick24

Not saying it will work, it has already been mentioned how the determined will still be able to watch. But maybe it will stop the not so determined, just the curious who do a search, get stopped by the filters, then go back to the underwear section of their mums Littlewoods catalogue.

Going round in circles..everyone seems to agree it won't stop the kids...so just who will it stop?

Answer..No-one....which 5 pages ago Less was saying in his original post

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by Guinness

Going round in circles..everyone seems to agree it won't stop the kids...so just who will it stop?

Answer..No-one....which 5 pages ago Less was saying in his original post

It is just a red herring diversion to con you into thinking the problem is being tackled - they daren't!

[gpick24]

Originally Posted by Guinness

Going round in circles..everyone seems to agree it won't stop the kids...so just who will it stop?

Answer..No-one....which 5 pages ago Less was saying in his original post

And as I said in post #43, we will only find out how well it works when it is implemented. Just because it doesn`t stop it 100%, does that mean it should be scrapped. Should we just let kids smoke and drink, just because some of them get fake ID`s or some shops don`t care who they sell to. Even this forum has a section restricted to over 18`s, should that be scrapped too ( I hope so, cos I can`t get into it ).

[cashman]

Originally Posted by gpick24

And as I said in post #43, we will only find out how well it works when it is implemented. Just because it doesn`t stop it 100%, does that mean it should be scrapped. Should we just let kids smoke and drink, just because some of them get fake ID`s or some shops don`t care who they sell to. Even this forum has a section restricted to over 18`s, should that be scrapped too ( I hope so, cos I can`t get into it ).

Pop into the watering hole one sat lunch n introduce yerself, then they can see yer oer 18 n yeh gain entry, not that its really worth it, but popping in the watering hole makes up fer that.

[gpick24]

Originally Posted by cashman

Pop into the watering hole one sat lunch n introduce yerself, then they can see yer oer 18 n yeh gain entry, not that its really worth it, but popping in the watering hole makes up fer that.

With my youthful looks, they probably won`t believe me.

[accyman]

our government and especially usa government is more concerned about protecting copyright of multi mllion pound/dollar companies and spends a great deal more protecting them than they do children.

last year the usa practically invaded other countries in a cyber fashion shutting down websites hoste din other countries witout even consulting the countries they were cyber attacking yet struggle to shut down servers hosting pedo sites in tehri own country

[gpick24]

Not saying this should be done instead shutting down child porn, but in conjunction with. Stop kids watching porn, stop anyone and everyone watching child porn.

[cashman]

The simple answer would be to severely clamp down on those who make it,and distribute it, but they never will. i mean cmon they make snuff movies, bestiality, child rape, n allsorts of devious crap,too many top people like it, to ever act on it.

[Restless]

Originally Posted by cashman

Pop into the watering hole one sat lunch n introduce yerself, then they can see yer oer 18 n yeh gain entry, not that its really worth it, but popping in the watering hole makes up fer that.

Lunch? How long u guys there ?

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Restless

Lunch? How long u guys there ?

Usually between 12-00 n 2-00 ish. Though i aint been down today due to foot injury.