The Graveyard Shift - Page 2

WillowTheWhisp · 22-11-2004, 11:53

I don't know much about WWI when it comes to the navy but I have seen memorials dedicated to the 1914-19 war as opposed to 1914-18.

Darby · 22-11-2004, 12:03

I can't access his Navy Records as they are only in Micofilm. But look at this web site:

http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/cer...asualty=375602

Commonwealth War Graves Commission web site.

Darby · 22-11-2004, 12:05

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

I don't know much about WWI when it comes to the navy but I have seen memorials dedicated to the 1914-19 war as opposed to 1914-18.

Action was carried out up to 1919 in NW Russia...Murmansk to be exact, supporting the White Russians against the Bolsheviks! (something similar to HBC)

WillowTheWhisp · 22-11-2004, 12:12

Have you seen this bit?

http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/cas...asualty=375602

mez · 22-11-2004, 12:49

just had a nosey through a couple of navel sites, & the h.m.s. bacchante was part of the 9th cruiser squadren in north west africal 1917 till it was sold for scrap in 1920. the later editionn of the bacchante was sold to new zealand & renamed wellington its now out of commision, there have been a few ships of that name .

Darby · 22-11-2004, 14:15

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Have you seen this bit?

http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/cas...asualty=375602

Yes I have Willow, its on that site in 2 different formats. But I still can't get any deeper into RN records for 1907-1923.

mez

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just had a nosey through a couple of navel sites, & the h.m.s. bacchante was part of the 9th cruiser squadren in north west africal 1917 till it was sold for scrap in 1920. the later editionn of the bacchante was sold to new zealand & renamed wellington its now out of commision, there have been a few ships of that name .

So it's quite likely that he could of died through disease. W. Africa was known as the sailors graveyard due to Yellow fever and Dengue fever. Poor lad!

Doug · 22-11-2004, 16:08

No closer to finding any more information about the man, but I thought you might be interested in this shot of the late Able Seaman Eastwoods Ship. H.M.S. Bacchante c. 1914-1920.

staggeringman · 22-11-2004, 16:25

interested in ships have a gander at this its THE LANCASHIRE WITCH,passenger ship of 1863 who took a load of lucky sods to new zealand.http://www.rootsweb.com/~nzlscant/lancashire_witch.htm

Doug · 22-11-2004, 16:39

[QUOTE=staggeringman]interested in ships have a gander at this its THE LANCASHIRE WITCH, passenger ship of 1863 who took a load of lucky sods to new zealand.

I your right their Staggeringman, regretably I know a few b****rs that should have been on it, but missed it. lol.

Darby · 23-11-2004, 11:20

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Originally Posted by staggeringman

interested in ships have a gander at this its THE LANCASHIRE WITCH,passenger ship of 1863 who took a load of lucky sods to new zealand.http://www.rootsweb.com/~nzlscant/lancashire_witch.htm

Dammed interesting Staggeringman.....it would make a great novel or even a film. Lots of follow-on history as well.

Great stuff! :engsmil: :engsmil:

WillowTheWhisp · 23-11-2004, 15:21

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Originally Posted by Darby

Yes I have Willow, its on that site in 2 different formats. But I still can't get any deeper into RN records for 1907-1923.

I was mainly referring to the bit where it describes him as "Commonwealth War Dead"

Darby · 25-11-2004, 07:06

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

I was mainly referring to the bit where it describes him as "Commonwealth War Dead"

I think the title "Commonwealth War Dead" originally was used as a catch-all term so that those that died whilst serving could be buried properly. It was also used to emcompass any other serviceman who died whilst serving in what are described as "minor incidents" between the wars, and after WWII.

The Commonwealth War Graves Commission looks after all graves of those who were buried under that scheme, and I'm not sure if laying down a gravestone (without expressed approval) is against their rules!

Maybe a heads-up to them would result in the re-erection of the gravestone in Church Kirk!! That would set the cat amongst the pigeons!!

pendy · 29-11-2004, 14:14

Sadly there are all too many who don't have graves, particularly from WW1. Due to the spread out nature of my mother's family (my granny could run fast when she wasn't pregnant!), I had an uncle, Thomas, who died in 1917 (my mother was born in 1913). There is one anomaly - my uncle was Thomas Pendergast, and there were TWO Thomas Pendergasts who died of wounds around that time. So far as I know, there were very few Pendergasts in Accrington, I thought we were the only ones. I would love to know which was which.

WillowTheWhisp · 29-11-2004, 14:34

This might not make much sense because I'm quite woolly today. I think I'm coming down with something. I can't think straight and it's definitely taking me far too long to type a basically simple post.

However, I'll give it a shot.

These two Thomas Pendergasts, are they on the website? Have you checked there for parents names? Your one will be the one with your grandparents as his parents. Or is that too obvious and you've already tried and no parents listed?

pendy · 29-11-2004, 14:40

I got that info from a friend who is involved with the Commonwealth War Graves Commission. Andrew Jackson put Uncle Tom onto his website, but I am not sure if he has the Army number. I just wondered who the other one was ....

I will check Andrew's site, and see if I can come up with a definite.

If you're coming down with something - Whisky, hot water, a squeeze of lemon, three cloves, and a teaspoon of honey - it may not cure you, but it tastes good!