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13-07-2011, 22:22
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Re: Accy museum exhibits dumped on tip....
Shame they didn't keep it, bet Milnshaw looked better in 1855.
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13-07-2011, 22:33
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Re: Accy museum exhibits dumped on tip....
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Accrington's First Museum. 1855.
Founded by Ormerod Chadswick, Henry Barben, Richard Fish & William Booth, in a rented shop in Abbey St. Later transferred to Milnshaw, where they built a shed to house the exhibits, and created a garden. Sold to the Corporation for 500 quid, and became Milnshaw Park.
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Thought you didnt believe what Richard Ainsworth said and here you are, quoting him! Tee hee
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13-07-2011, 22:33
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Re: Accy museum exhibits dumped on tip....
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Later transferred to Milnshaw, where they built a shed to house the exhibits, and created a garden.
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I've seen mention of the town's Amusement Gardens, would that be them?
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13-07-2011, 22:41
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Re: Accy museum exhibits dumped on tip....
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I've seen mention of the town's Amusement Gardens, would that be them?
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Pleasure Gardens.
Whoops.
That's what they were called.
Accrington's Pleasure Gardens.
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13-07-2011, 23:27
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Re: Accy museum exhibits dumped on tip....
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Thought you didnt believe what Richard Ainsworth said and here you are, quoting him! Tee hee
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There are other sources than him, and if you knew of that from Ainsworth, why were you on about the one up Peel Park being the first. post 23.
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13-07-2011, 23:53
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Re: Accy museum exhibits dumped on tip....
Flippin eck Walter. You are keeping me up! Was just on my way up to bed! I had read that the museum at the Peel Park was the first. Now I have more knowledge!
4 years!!! You have won me by 4 years! Whats that amongst friends!
Many many years ago a portion of what we know as the old Accrington Stanley football pitch was purchased by a Mr John Cockshutt, and made into public gardens and named Peel Park Gardens, a charge being made for admission. For a long time these were known as "Cockshutt Gardens" by the good folk of Accrington. He built the Peel Park Hotel. Attracted by the glowing reports of the gold rush in Australia, he emigrated there.
The gardens were purchased from him in 1859 by Mr James Greenwood (see post 23) who came from Todmorden, where he had a public museum. He transferred his collection to an upper room adjoining the Peel Park Hotel and continued the gardens as a place of entertainment. It became a popular resort at a period when such pleasure grounds were in fashion. There was a special open air dancing platform, and on Saturdays and holiday times during the Summer, a band presented a gala appearance. Near the entrance to the Museum was a collection of small living animals, whilst upstairs the items had mainly been collected by Mr Greenwood. At his death the contents were sold by public auction, many of the items finding their way to Blackburn Museum.
Within the gardens was a "playing fountain", with ornamental rockery. Here were brought the carved corbels from "the Black Abbey" and there they remained, until transferred by permission of Messrs. Thwaites. These I am pleased to say, are most def in The Haworth Art Gallery.
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14-07-2011, 00:02
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Re: Accy museum exhibits dumped on tip....
Just found this.
Sorry it's in white, hope it's readable.
LANCASHIRE: 1819 -1870 Original Bundle of Vellum & Paper documents relating to PLECK HOUSE, Land and Cottages at Lower Fold in Accrington, late property of Mr John Hargreaves, with a very fine plan hand drawn on Vellum Document of 1849 showing PLECK HOUSE and Pleasure Gardens and Grounds on the Junction of Marquis Street and the BURY to WHALLEY Turn pike Road, also showing the River Henburn, Cunliffe & Ratcliffe property's, LOWER FOLD with Cottages, CLUB HOUSE, LOWER FOLD ROAD, The Peets Arms Inn. Another document with Plan of Land Near Pleck House. An 1869 Vellum Document with Plan showing UNION BUILDINGS MILL on the River HYNDBURN, WEIR STREET, Overseers of the Poor (Work House)?. etc. 1862 Large 26 page ABSTRACT OF TITLE of the PLECK HOUSE Estate from 1818.
1819-1870 ACCRINGTON Lancs ARCHIVE & PLANS DOCUMENT LOT | eBay
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14-07-2011, 12:09
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Re: Accy museum exhibits dumped on tip....
Just highlight the white text and it turns blue on white. So much easier to read.
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28-07-2011, 16:29
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Re: Accy museum exhibits dumped on tip....
Think its time to start thinking what we HAVE for a museum. There's still plenty "knocking around" - time to start asking the "right" people, no ..... telling the "right" people that we want a museum again in our town. The house Hollins Hill, was left to our town "for the people of Accrington". (This of course became known as The Haworth Art Gallery). We ARE the people of Accrington, arent we? Think we should be able to have a say in this matter!
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28-07-2011, 17:56
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Re: Accy museum exhibits dumped on tip....
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Think its time to start thinking what we HAVE for a museum. There's still plenty "knocking around" - time to start asking the "right" people, no ..... telling the "right" people that we want a museum again in our town. The house Hollins Hill, was left to our town "for the people of Accrington". (This of course became known as The Haworth Art Gallery). We ARE the people of Accrington, arent we? Think we should be able to have a say in this matter!
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Miss Haworth did leave the house to the people of Accrington, ask Helen at the gallery to show you a copy of the will, its in a cardboard box with some other documents & photos, I think it specifies Art Gallery, if so theres nowt can be achieved, the council is after saving money on that place, thats why they don't have a curator.
I think your batting uphill on this one.
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28-07-2011, 18:00
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Re: Accy museum exhibits dumped on tip....
But, dear Retlaw, I too have a copy of Ann Haworth's will and it QUITE CLEARLY STATES the house to be left as A MUSEUM and Art Gallery. Notice the word MUSEUM came first!
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28-07-2011, 18:55
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Re: Accy museum exhibits dumped on tip....
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But, dear Retlaw, I too have a copy of Ann Haworth's will and it QUITE CLEARLY STATES the house to be left as A MUSEUM and Art Gallery. Notice the word MUSEUM came first!
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Now now Atarah, we can't have that, official documents don't count, you will have to get permission of mikejoed, because it says in the paper Art Gallery and Park, and only the local chip wrapper counts, and news papers are never wrong are they.
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28-07-2011, 19:00
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Re: Accy museum exhibits dumped on tip....
If the terms of the will have been breached have the descendants of the donor got the right to reassume possession of the property?
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28-07-2011, 19:05
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Re: Accy museum exhibits dumped on tip....
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If the terms of the will have been breached have the descendants of the donor got the right to reassume possession of the property?
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Don't think so Margaret, Miss Howarth was unmarried, and some of the memorabelia, that could be construed as museum exhibits, were on display not many weeks ago.
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28-07-2011, 19:12
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Re: Accy museum exhibits dumped on tip....
HAWORTH please, not HOWARTH!!!!
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