Alleytroyds

susie123 · 21-02-2012, 10:50

During my research for another recent thread Ibnoticed that on old maps the area around the bottom of Market Street, Church, is marked as Alleytroyds.

Today there is a modern housing estate in this location and I am pleased to see that the old name has been retained.

Does anyone know the derivation of the name or how far it dates back? Googling the name just brings up lists of houses for sale.

Would the royds part of the name have the same meanig as the Royds in the Woodnook area of Accy?

Margaret Pilkington · 21-02-2012, 11:27

I am unable to help you with the derivation of the name Sue, but I don't really like the name.......it is ugly. And I know that life cannot be sanitised to remove the ugly things in it........but I wish they had chosen a name with local connections that didn't sound grimy.
Just my opinion...as usual.

steve2qec · 21-02-2012, 12:31

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Originally Posted by susie123

During my research for another recent thread Ibnoticed that on old maps the area around the bottom of Market Street, Church, is marked as Alleytroyds.

Today there is a modern housing estate in this location and I am pleased to see that the old name has been retained.

Does anyone know the derivation of the name or how far it dates back? Googling the name just brings up lists of houses for sale.

Would the royds part of the name have the same meanig as the Royds in the Woodnook area of Accy?

Royds Street is named after a family so don't think it's connected to Alleytroyds. Will have a look at my 1848 map when I get home but I'm pretty sure it was called that back then.

katex · 21-02-2012, 15:33

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Originally Posted by steve2qec

Royds Street is named after a family so don't think it's connected to Alleytroyds. Will have a look at my 1848 map when I get home but I'm pretty sure it was called that back then.

Yes, Steve, that area is named on this map.
Shows 'Alleytroyds T.P. and weighing machine' What does T.P. stand for ?

Agree with Margaret, it is an ugly name, but would be interesting to find out why it was called that.

steve2qec · 21-02-2012, 15:55

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Originally Posted by katex

Yes, Steve, that area is named on this map.
Shows 'Alleytroyds T.P. and weighing machine' What does T.P. stand for ?

Agree with Margaret, it is an ugly name, but would be interesting to find out why it was called that.

Not 100% certain but T.P. might stand for Turnpike

steve2qec · 21-02-2012, 15:59

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Not 100% certain but T.P. might stand for Turnpike

...which would make sense as there was a weighing machine there as well.

katex · 21-02-2012, 16:19

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Not 100% certain but T.P. might stand for Turnpike

Sounds feasable to me.

Actually,the map I am looking at is earlier than 1848 .. no railways.

It is the oldest one on Mario .. wish they would date it.

susie123 · 21-02-2012, 18:46

Why is it an ugly name? Cos it reminds you of something you get on your bottom?

Steve thought that might be the case for the Accy Royds.

Kate please can you post a link to your early map - I find Mario and Lancs Lantern impossible to find anything on.

walkinman221 · 21-02-2012, 18:47

Royds street is named after Edward Albert Nuttall Royd who built it and the streets of the other streets that bear his name , he also built / rebuilt Newhouse Farm and leafield farm on sandy lane .

garinda · 21-02-2012, 18:48

I don't like the name.

Sounds a bit too Yorkshire for me.

Murgatroyd, and the like.

Royd isn't in the dictionary, though I read that in place names, it's a Yorkshire derivative of 'road'. Which makes some sense.

steve2qec · 21-02-2012, 19:09

Kate please can you post a link to your early map - I find Mario and Lancs Lantern impossible to find anything on.

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This is a screenshot of part of the map (probably 1840's)

TubbyLes · 21-02-2012, 19:59

Alley t' royds---Pathway to the roads---Just a thought

Margaret Pilkington · 21-02-2012, 20:01

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Originally Posted by susie123

Why is it an ugly name? Cos it reminds you of something you get on your bottom?

No, nothing like that...to be honest it hadn't crossed my mind........and I can't put my finger on why I think it is an ugly name.......I just don't like it. It sounds grimy and unpleasant. Not a nice place to live......like dung heap, or muckmidden.

Margaret Pilkington · 21-02-2012, 20:02

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Originally Posted by TubbyLes

Alley t' royds---Pathway to the roads---Just a thought

Well thought out...and could be right too.

katex · 21-02-2012, 20:47

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Originally Posted by susie123

Why is it an ugly name? Cos it reminds you of something you get on your bottom?

Steve thought that might be the case for the Accy Royds.

Kate please can you post a link to your early map - I find Mario and Lancs Lantern impossible to find anything on.

'Something you get on your bottom !?!' .. oh .. s'okay .... just got it..

See Steve has posted the bit I was talking about, could be correct with around 1840. Although shows Spring Mill which wasn't built until 1844.
Steve .. is this the map you referred to as 1848 ?

Agree, Mario is really difficult to navigate (since they 'improved' it)..

P.S. Some one has just told me T.P. stood for Toll Point.