Band of Hope

[MargaretR]

By the way Bob, someone we both know well wanted to know why her name wasn't included in your first post - she was apparently a very good girl in those days.


.....so she didn't get a good snog on the staircase at a party then?

[Bob Dobson]

I hasten to point out that this thread is about the Band of Hope, not about those for whom there is no hope.

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson

I hasten to point out that this thread is about the Band of Hope, not about those for whom there is no hope.

I'm well miffed - you could have added a smiley to that

[Lost in Cornwall]

There used to be a big sign painted on the back of the Rechabites building that I can still remember. "Thou shalt not take strong drink, neither thee nor thy sons with thee."

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

By the way Bob, someone we both know well wanted to know why her name wasn't included in your first post - she was apparently a very good girl in those days.


.....so she didn't get a good snog on the staircase at a party then?

Not until she met me

[Gordon Booth]

The Temperance Movement was very popular after World War 1 and a lot of my family signed up but I don't think the pledges lasted long and the Movement died off.
Those were the days when it was quite common for a working man to get paid on Friday and disappear straight into the pub until late Sunday night( that WAS 24 hour drinking) and come home with no money for the rent,food etc.That is no exaggeration, I knew of families where it had happened.
You can see why the Temperance Movement was popular with wives although it probably didn't help them much.

[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson

Booth, I suspect you are confusing me with my brother. When I picked up that prize from the temperance people, my dad linked it to my ability in Latin and RE and thought I might become a vicar.

Webmaster - please consider removing this slur on a good-living lad's reputation. I am of a sensitive disposition.

Thee sensative, who arti kidding, even 1/2 a Nori wouldn't mek much impression on thee.
Retlaw

[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson

In Accrington there was also a Rechabites grioup. They met in an upstairs room some where top of Infant St/Abbey St I think. They too were a temperance/total abstinence movement. Their name comes from a Biblical paragraph linking them to not drinking wine.

I think there was some of them Band of Hoper's in a building on Nuttall St, I remember my dad telling me him and his mates wedged the doors, and then pour a concoction of vinegar & dolly blue thro the letter box, they were hanging out of the upstairs windows shouting for help.

Retlaw.

[steeljack]

question ... was the 'Band of Hope' related to the 'Toch H ' (sp?) seem to remember a Toch H sign (not the proverbial lamp) somewhere in Arrod when I was a kid

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by steeljack

question ... was the 'Band of Hope' related to the 'Toch H ' (sp?) seem to remember a Toch H sign (not the proverbial lamp) somewhere in Arrod when I was a kid

Hence the saying as dim as a Toch H lamp

[Bob Dobson]

No connection, although I think the Accrington TocH may have met close by the Rechabites. TocH was originally for servicemen to gather together in some form of religious meeting, or friendship brought about by the leaders who were often clergymen. Band of Hope was for children to be told the evils of drink. Rechabites were adults who campaigned against drink.

[Bob Dobson]

A reminder about her study from Susan Bailey (see first posting in this thread) has prompted me to resurrect it. She is wanting to talk to people who were members.

In a back room in the library is a big notice board belonging to an Accrington Band of Hope. I shall ask them to incorporate it in a display.I have told Susan about it.

Just writing this has made me thirsty.I could murder an East Lancs Pale Ale that's been kept somewhere cold but not in a fridge.I can even smell it as I am taking the red cap off.

[Alan Gilmartin]

Seen to remember a Toc H sign outside St Bartholomews church in the 60s Steely, when I went past on the bus, to whalley when I worked at Brockhall, what was the name of the road it was on, ?. Toc H always seemed to have a dance on,

[susie123]

Originally Posted by steeljack

question ... was the 'Band of Hope' related to the 'Toch H ' (sp?) seem to remember a Toch H sign (not the proverbial lamp) somewhere in Arrod when I was a kid

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson

No connection, although I think the Accrington TocH may have met close by the Rechabites. TocH was originally for servicemen to gather together in some form of religious meeting, or friendship brought about by the leaders who were often clergymen. Band of Hope was for children to be told the evils of drink. Rechabites were adults who campaigned against drink.

I remember from my younger days that Toc H in Accy was above the building next to the post office now occupied by Maundy Grange. The angled doorway on the corner of Abbyt street and Infant street had the words Toc H and the lamp symbol either on the glass above the door or on the window above. It was ages before I found out what it meant.

I see from this link that its founder was honoured in Accrington.

Toc H in Rishton