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Old 05-06-2009, 20:45   #1
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Industrial Ossy

Just browsing through an old book (monthly diy magazines, bound) found this and thought it might be of interest to our Ossy historians. Under the heading of "Model Engine Making", Introduction- where to buy castings. "Mr, R.Thompson, 2, Brookside Lane, Oswaldtwistle, Lancs. supplies drawings of half-horse power steam engine, 2-1/16" bore x3-1/4" stroke. He charges 12s.6d for a set of castings, and 2s.6d extra for the forgings." Magazine dated March 1886. What I'd like to know is what was at no.2 Brookside Lane in those years? Was it a foundry or a blacksmiths workshop? Who was Mr. R Thompson? I spent alot of time up Ossy but never ventured beyond the Black Dog (was there anything beyond the Black Dog? )
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Just browsing through an old book (monthly diy magazines, bound) found this and thought it might be of interest to our Ossy historians. Under the heading of "Model Engine Making", Introduction- where to buy castings. "Mr, R.Thompson, 2, Brookside Lane, Oswaldtwistle, Lancs. supplies drawings of half-horse power steam engine, 2-1/16" bore x3-1/4" stroke. He charges 12s.6d for a set of castings, and 2s.6d extra for the forgings." Magazine dated March 1886. What I'd like to know is what was at no.2 Brookside Lane in those years? Was it a foundry or a blacksmiths workshop? Who was Mr. R Thompson? I spent alot of time up Ossy but never ventured beyond the Black Dog (was there anything beyond the Black Dog? )
More than likely an Ironmongers shop, there use to be one in Rishton on the left, about 300 yrds back from the traffic lights. I used to get quite a lot of special screws and materials from him, when I was into Model Engineering. If you want to see some good Model Engineering, go to Ossy Mills, bloke from Clayton made some great models, which are on display, just think of the hours of work he put into them.

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Old 06-06-2009, 00:05   #3
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There must have been some cottages there at the beginning of the lane, which aren't there now.

On the 1871 census the address you gave had different occupants.

2 Brookside La., Oswaldtwistle

John YATES/head/m/32/Labourer in Cotton Mill/Oswaldtwistle
Jane YATES/wife/m/30/Oswaldtwistle
Elizabeth YATES/daur/7/Scholar/Oswaldtwistle
Sheppard YATES/son/1/Oswaldtwistle
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More than likely an Ironmongers shop, there use to be one in Rishton on the left, about 300 yrds back from the traffic lights. I used to get quite a lot of special screws and materials from him, when I was into Model Engineering. If you want to see some good Model Engineering, go to Ossy Mills, bloke from Clayton made some great models, which are on display, just think of the hours of work he put into them.

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The man from Clayton who made the models might be an old uncle of an ACCYWEB MEMBER STEELJACK!
Do you know his name?
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The man from Clayton who made the models might be an old uncle of an ACCYWEB MEMBER STEELJACK!
Do you know his name?
Sorry, can't remember his name, but theres a photo of him on the wall behind some of his models, there are in the same room as the Accrington Pals display, which Bil Turner and I put up about 5 years ago.

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It might be a bit too far away to come and look at a photo!
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The man from Clayton who made the models might be an old uncle of an ACCYWEB MEMBER STEELJACK!
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Thurston Smith made the models , he worked at the Brickworks and had a workshop in the pen behind his house , did all the parts himself including the castings , I'm thinking one of the models is a "beam engine" typical of the power units used to drive the loooms in local mills . Think the last one he made was copied from the Cotton Mill on Bridge st. in Church ,
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Thurston Smith made the models , he worked at the Brickworks and had a workshop in the pen behind his house , did all the parts himself including the castings , I'm thinking one of the models is a "beam engine" typical of the power units used to drive the loooms in local mills . Think the last one he made was copied from the Cotton Mill on Bridge st. in Church ,
Thats him. One of his mdels has a part of the original engine underneath the display.
He also made a model of a brick making machine, that can actually make miniature bricks, that one is supposed to be on display at the brickworks where he used to work.
He may have made a lot of the castings himself, but I don't think he could have done the cast iron ones, I tried it once, could'nt get the temperature high enough, could manage brass, aluminium and copper, but cast iron no.
I used a 5 gallon oil drum lined with fireclay for my furnace. My mother used to play ell when I cracked it up, made a hell of a racket when you got the blower going to raise the temp.

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It might be a bit too far away to come and look at a photo!
Not very good ... but an idea. May be able to obtain some better ones.

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I'm thinking one of the models is a "beam engine" typical of the power units used to drive the loooms in local mills . Think the last one he made was copied from the Cotton Mill on Bridge st. in Church ,
For some reason I'm thinking the name of the mill on Bridge st. Church was " Primrose Mill' , or am I begining to go senile
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Thats him. One of his mdels has a part of the original engine underneath the display.
He also made a model of a brick making machine, that can actually make miniature bricks, that one is supposed to be on display at the brickworks where he used to work.
He may have made a lot of the castings himself, but I don't think he could have done the cast iron ones, I tried it once, could'nt get the temperature high enough, could manage brass, aluminium and copper, but cast iron no.
I used a 5 gallon oil drum lined with fireclay for my furnace. My mother used to play ell when I cracked it up, made a hell of a racket when you got the blower going to raise the temp.

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A great chap , not one of many words and didn't suffer fools , but if you showed an interest he would spend the time making sure you understood .
Definatly know he used to cast Brass and Bronze because he once made a Bell which had a good sound , also remember him turning one of the flywheels on his lathe and explaining at the time the different charactistics when machining Cast Iron and Mild Steel , was only a little lad at the time but some stuff sticks in the mind .
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[quote=steeljack;719481]For some reason I'm thinking the name of the mill on Bridge st. Church was " Primrose Mill' , or am I begining to go senile [/quote
You are not senile just yet,we walked or rode past it every day for a number of years.
The mill on Commercial St was known as the SHODDY,so called because of poor quality products.
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You are not senile just yet,we walked or rode past it every day for a number of years.
The mill on Commercial St was known as the SHODDY,so called because of poor quality products.
You got me thinking now ,was "shoddy" as a product not something different ? something like "fustin " or "fustian" some kind of felt material , it wasn't exactly a woven cotten fabric but made of some kind of chopped up rags or raw cotton rolled out on presses similar to paper manufacture ? similar to a thick flannel ( kind of stuff used for slipper insoles before Dr Scholl )

Sure one of our 'older'/senior Accy web users can straigten me out , thanks
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Definatly know he used to cast Brass and Bronze because he once made a Bell which had a good sound , also remember him turning one of the flywheels on his lathe and explaining at the time the different charactistics when machining Cast Iron and Mild Steel , was only a little lad at the time but some stuff sticks in the mind .
Found a couple of pictures of Thurstons work, must have taken them about 3 years ago. Thats Model Engineering at its best, pure dedication.
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Shoddy was a sort of felt material made from recycled, rewoven wool. It was used for cheap clothing in the 1800s.

Fustian was what velvet was made from. It was a cloth woven with rows of tiny loops which were cut with long thin knives along very long tables. It was the local industry, mainly done by children, here in Lymm in the 19th century.
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