Interesting Facts about Clayton Le Moors - Page 4

Retlaw · 04-06-2013, 13:52

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Originally Posted by smobile

I am pleased that this is going to be noted and recorded for future generations to be able to remember these men.

The club has struggled over recent years and i was worried it may have ended up in some builders skip at some point in the future.

At least if it's documented, then it's part of the way to being kept safe.

Thank you.

After traipsing round Clayton for the past hour asking questions, I've got a mobile number for the key holder, he has agreed to allow me to photograph it later today.

Retlaw · 04-06-2013, 13:56

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Originally Posted by Bob Dobson

Retlaw may well be right that my pal, Mike Coyle, who contributes to the national war memorials website, does not have all the available information on Accrington's WMs/RoHs. I shall visit the club and take photos for him. He does not keep the information for private use. It seems a pity that our information is not available alongside that of other towns.

What do you mean that our information is not available alongside other towns. there are several R-O-H that Bill & I rescued over the years, they are in Accy Library.

Retlaw · 04-06-2013, 18:29

Got it, the steward kindly took it off the wall so I could stand it where it would get natural light for a better photo.
Seems their were 3 working mens clubs in Clayton at one time, known as Top, Middle & Bottom, bottom club is Park View, the other two, one has been demolished, and the other was a chinese for a time, now closed. Thats possibly 2 R-O-H that have disappeared.

cashman · 04-06-2013, 18:34

There was 3- bottom was Park View, Middle club was Come @ Welcome, Top club i think Whalley Rd, just before the Greyhound on other side of road coming from clayton, used em all at one time.

in fact didn't know middle club was no more.

smobile · 04-06-2013, 18:44

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Originally Posted by Retlaw

Got it, the steward kindly took it off the wall so I could stand it where it would get natural light for a better photo.
Seems their were 3 working mens clubs in Clayton at one time, known as Top, Middle & Bottom, bottom club is Park View, the other two, one has been demolished, and the other was a chinese for a time, now closed. Thats possibly 2 R-O-H that have disappeared.

Great news. Hopefully the other two are safe and well somewhere. A thread that started with a request for help on a kids school project has unearthed a forgotten WW1 memorial plaque.

Got to love the internet :-D

susie123 · 04-06-2013, 19:01

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Originally Posted by Retlaw

Got it, the steward kindly took it off the wall so I could stand it where it would get natural light for a better photo.
Seems their were 3 working mens clubs in Clayton at one time, known as Top, Middle & Bottom, bottom club is Park View, the other two, one has been demolished, and the other was a chinese for a time, now closed. Thats possibly 2 R-O-H that have disappeared.

Does anyone know what happened to the bust of Edward VII which used to stand outside the WMC opposite the Greyhound? When I was younng I used to catch the bus there when I went to visit my uncle. The bust always fascinated me.

Retlaw · 04-06-2013, 19:05

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Originally Posted by smobile

Great news. Hopefully the other two are safe and well somewhere. A thread that started with a request for help on a kids school project has unearthed a forgotten WW1 memorial plaque.

Got to love the internet :-D

I don't think the other 2 have survived, I went in Clayton Library this aft during my search, and they had no knowledge of any working mens clubs in Clayton.
Even 10 years ago they were being dumped in skips if Bill & I weren't quick enough.
Also two church's in Acc have had theirs stolen in the past 20 odd years, Royds St Baptists hid theirs whilst the place was being renovated but some one found it and made off with it.

Retlaw · 05-06-2013, 14:31

I've checked the names on the Park View R-O-H.
There are 23 names, which include 7 spelling mistakes, and two men who don't exist, not in Soldiers died in the Great War, or Commonwealth War Graves, neither can they be found in Military Records, or Census returns as living in this part of Lancashire. The queerest one of all is a Jhon (sic) Holster. There are no Jhon, John or Jonathan Holster's resident in England in the 1911 census, but 4 men named John Holster are in the Medal Records, they are listed at Belgian Agents.

Eric · 05-06-2013, 14:39

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Originally Posted by susie123

The bust always fascinated me.

Busts always fascinated me too; still do in fact.

Oh, and butts too.

claytonx · 05-06-2013, 17:52

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Originally Posted by Eric

Busts always fascinated me too; still do in fact.

Oh, and butts too.

Lived in Canada all those years, but still a Bottom Ender at heart and mind.

Eric · 11-06-2013, 18:50

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Originally Posted by claytonx

Lived in Canada all those years, but still a Bottom Ender at heart and mind.

"They change their skies above them,
But not their hearts that roam!"

Kipling The Native Born.

wainejohn · 15-06-2013, 20:06

There is the Moorfield pit disaster of 1883. The youngest to die was only 10 years old. Some of my ancestors worked the Clayton pits. There is Mr Mercer of mercerised cotton. He was a self-taught self-made man. I think a lot of his fortune was given away.

bekibird · 21-06-2013, 20:15

To all who have provided info about Clayton I thank you kindly!! My daughter submitted her report (which ended up as four gigantic posters!!) and got excellent feedback! Throughout this process my family spent a lot of time appreciating the small town we live close to and seeing all the lovely things it has to offer. I will try to post a picture of what my daughter accomplished and again say thanks to everyone who contributed!

rtbarton · 24-12-2013, 15:09

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Originally Posted by susie123

Whalley Road from the Greyhound to the canal used to be called Napoleon Street.

From a post I made elswehere on here:

I've checked the 1881, 1891 and 1901 censuses for Napoleon Street.

....between 1891 and 1901 Napoleon Street became (part of?) Whalley Rd, the odd numbers became the even numbers and the direction was reversed.

I've found the following matches :-

1 Napoleon Street = 170 Whalley Rd, 3 = 168, 27 = 144, 35 = 134, 45 = 124, 61-63 = 108-102, 71 = 98, 85 = 84, 93&95 = 76&74, 99 = 70, 105 = 64, 113 = 56, 155 = 12. Moorfield House = 8 Whalley Rd.

Bob Dobson · 24-12-2013, 15:20

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Originally Posted by wainejohn

There is the Moorfield pit disaster of 1883. The youngest to die was only 10 years old. Some of my ancestors worked the Clayton pits. There is Mr Mercer of mercerised cotton. He was a self-taught self-made man. I think a lot of his fortune was given away.

The 10yrs old was James Atherton There were more at 11, 12 & 13yrs old The family lived in Petre St. His 12yrs old brother, Ben, was injured. Harry Tootle, author of 'The Moorfield Pit Disaster' believed that James would have been a 'door tenter'. He was buried at All Saints.