Pubs in old & new acc

[Retlaw]

Just for Dobo.

Site the following pubs that existed before Accrington became a Borough.

Borough Arms
British Volunteers
Bulls Head
Clay Inn
Flying Dutchman
Good Ale Tomorrow for Nothing.

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[cashman]

was it the Borough on were the home brew shop was off warner st? think its called Cross St.

[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by cashman

was it the Borough on were the home brew shop was off warner st? think its called Cross St.

The Borough Arms was on Cross St, nearly facing the former Home Brew Shop.
That was the easy one, what else was it used for besides selling Cockroach pee.

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[Atarah]

British Volunteers - Warner Street - I also know the Flying Dutchman and Good Ale Tomorrow, but I will let others try.

[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by Atarah

British Volunteers - Warner Street - I also know the Flying Dutchman and Good Ale Tomorrow, but I will let others try.

Yep
It was in Warner St, but who had the premises in 1980 and as what.

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[cashman]

when did the borough arms actually cease trading? seem to remember a "Massey" house up by the Ritz Cinema, but ferget the name.

[accyman]

was it called teh white bull where the arndale carpark is now ?

[cashman]

Originally Posted by accyman

was it called teh white bull where the arndale carpark is now ?

no mate was the "Black Bull" me local in 60s

[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by cashman

no mate was the "Black Bull" me local in 60s

Yes the Black Bull was its name, it was one of the oldest buildings in Old Accrington.
Records for Old Accrington are a bit hard to come by. The earliest record I can find is for 1666, Henry Emmot is listed as Ale House Keeper, he was taxed
6 pence.
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[cashman]

Originally Posted by Retlaw

Yes the Black Bull was its name, it was one of the oldest buildings in Old Accrington.
Records for Old Accrington are a bit hard to come by. The earliest record I can find is for 1666, Henry Emmot is listed as Ale House Keeper, he was taxed
6 pence.
Retlaw.

was once told it was the owd "Grain Court" dunno if was true or even what one was?

[katex]

Got one .. The Flying Dutchman was the previous name of The Arden Inn on Abbey Street

[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by cashman

was once told it was the owd "Grain Court" dunno if was true or even what one was?

You would need to check the Halmote Court Rolls for that one.
Taxes were charged on many commodities, in the old days, just as they are today.
I remember reading of a case regarding a dispute over rights of way to the Corn Mill when one man was only allowed to transport his corn to the mill from Wulhyrst along a certain lane on fixed days.

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[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by katex

Got one .. The Flying Dutchman was the previous name of The Arden Inn on Abbey Street

Hoody Blell Katex
Your improving who's book did you find that one in. .

Have a slight confession to make, I made a slight error. With all this argy bargy I unearthed my original databases, which were stored on zip disks in the attic, reinstalled them on one of my other computers, found I'd missed a name off my list of
Pubs, Inns and Ale Houses.
It was the Mandock Inn, the landlord was Samuel Sandiford.

So that is your next quest. Where was it.

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[accyman]

Originally Posted by cashman

no mate was the "Black Bull" me local in 60s

yet it was painted white , thats why i keep thinking it was called teh white bull

[katex]

Originally Posted by cashman

no mate was the "Black Bull" me local in 60s

Get it right Cashy .. was 'Ye Olde Black Bull' ..

Originally Posted by Retlaw

It was the Mandock Inn, the landlord was Samuel Sandiford.

So that is your next quest. Where was it.

Retlaw.

Get the feeling, this will have to be another trip to the library .. that Samuel Sandiford ... was he born around 1807 ?

Wonder where the name Mandock came from .. doesn't appear to refer to any streets/areas/well known figures in the area ?