Street Names

[Bob Dobson]

Can we get back to the thread which is about street names?

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson

Can we get back to the thread which is about street names?

Yessir, Sergeant Dobson! It's a thread wander, the like of which Accyweb is renowned for.

[Bob Dobson]

Orange St: I researched this in the library today. It was laid out in 1860s. Plans show that other nearby streets were intended - Port and Lemon. However, the Port was opposite to Pilot St, so is not drink-related. They were all on land owned by the exors of Rev Charles Whitaker, vicar of Downham. Thus it is clear who Whitaker St is so called. I cannot explain Stuart St as yet.Sometimes called Stewart St. Port St became Moss Hall Rd

Queensborough St was called Marshall St as late as 1885

Brown St was laid out in 1871 on land owned by John Hargreaves and called The Preist Heys Estate. This was name of a fine house up Willows Lane, further up than Richmond Hill Rd. Land adjacent was owned by St James' Church. Strange that Brown St was next to and parallel with Crown St. Peter St was on same land as Brown Street.

[Bob Dobson]

I am interested in Queens Rd . The name first appears in the 1911 census thiough I was expecting something in 1901 or even 1891, as I had thought that the name would have been started, using Marshall St (?) near Whalley Rd and Pennyhouse Lane at the Burnley Rd end after the 1887 Jubilee or perhaps 1902 when Victoria died.

[susie123]

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson

I am interested in Queens Rd . The name first appears in the 1911 census thiough I was expecting something in 1901 or even 1891, as I had thought that the name would have been started, using Marshall St (?) near Whalley Rd and Pennyhouse Lane at the Burnley Rd end after the 1887 Jubilee or perhaps 1902 when Victoria died.

Interesting. The Victoria Hospital was opened in 1897/8 but that doesn't mean Queens Road had to be there then.

Only the houses opposite the hospital look to me to be early 1900s, it seems the first to be built was Glen Wold. Most of the other houses on the road look like 1920s 0r 30s and interestingly it's one of the few roads in Accrington where most of the houses are built largely of brick rather than stone.

Glen Wold, Accrington Image at PastPlaces
http://freepages.family.rootsweb.anc...wold/page2.htm

On Google Streetview the railway bridge at Penny House lane has an inscription which says it was rebuilt in 1935 and I reckon the houses on the RHS of Queens Road as you look towards Burnley Road date from around that time. I use to live in one of them, between Marlborough and Nutter Roads, when I was at school.

Never heard of Marshall Street, where was that?

[Bob Dobson]

Quick answer.Off Whalley Rd at Dyke Nook. I am looking into why it was so called. Marshal probably had some connection with Rev Charles Whitaker, vicar of Downham and Simonstone.

[susie123]

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson

Quick answer.Off Whalley Rd at Dyke Nook. I am looking into why it was so called. Marshal probably had some connection with Rev Charles Whitaker, vicar of Downham and Simonstone.

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson

Queensborough St was called Marshall St as late as 1885

Sorry missed that bit in your previous post. Presume you mean Queensborough Road? Wonder where that name came from? Off the top of my head, most of the development north of Queens Road and east of Whalley Road is mid 20c or later - bungalowville. The houses behind the other side of Whalley Road eg Whitaker Street, seem a bit earlier.

This is a real nostalgia trip for me, used to walk up to the high school every day from Queens Road/Whalley Road opp the cong church when we moved there.

[Bob Dobson]

Susie I haven't kept notes so cannot answer Queens or Queensborough. I will need to look at what I have written on the cards in the library. No thougHts yet on Marshall. There was a prominent pharmacist in Acc mid-century - Gervase Marshall .

[stetrovers]

Talking of streets running off Whalley Road, Lancaster Avenue used to be called Bayley Street, and only went as far as Pansy Street North, all the rest was fields, and thats in my mums time 1930 onwards. This has probably already been discussed on previous threads no doubt.

[Bob Dobson]

Originally Posted by stetrovers

Talking of streets running off Whalley Road, Lancaster Avenue used to be called Bayley Street, and only went as far as Pansy Street North, all the rest was fields, and thats in my mums time 1930 onwards. This has probably already been discussed on previous threads no doubt.

Post No 24 in this long-running thread covers Bayley St becoming Lancaster Ave. I think it was shameful to change the name, as Rev Bayley was a leader and force for good in the history of education in our town.

[Bob Dobson]

Originally Posted by susie123

Sorry missed that bit in your previous post. Presume you mean Queensborough Road? Wonder where that name came from? Off the top of my head, most of the development north of Queens Road and east of Whalley Road is mid 20c or later - bungalowville. The houses behind the other side of Whalley Road eg Whitaker Street, seem a bit earlier.

This is a real nostalgia trip for me, used to walk up to the high school every day from Queens Road/Whalley Road opp the cong church when we moved there.

I've confirmed that Marshall St became Queensborough Rd. Nearby Ellerbeck Rd used to be called Charles St. Charles was first name of Rev Whitaker, whose land these two streets were built on. However, the name Ellerbeck is the name of the house near Clitheroe in which lived Miss Slinger, related in some way to Mr (Major?) Slinger who apears to have bought the land from Whitaker's executors and re-named the streets. These streets were on the Laneside Estate. One of the streets on it was intended to be called Slinger Rd but was later changed. I've forgotten which one and will need to look it up. Watch this space

[susie123]

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson

I've confirmed that Marshall St became Queensborough Rd. Nearby Ellerbeck Rd used to be called Charles St. Charles was first name of Rev Whitaker, whose land these two streets were built on. However, the name Ellerbeck is the name of the house near Clitheroe in which lived Miss Slinger, related in some way to Mr (Major?) Slinger who apears to have bought the land from Whitaker's executors and re-named the streets. These streets were on the Laneside Estate. One of the streets on it was intended to be called Slinger Rd but was later changed. I've forgotten which one and will need to look it up. Watch this space

Were they connected to Slingers butchers? When I was at the high school 1957-64 we had a teacher called Mrs Rhoda Slinger and I think her sons were the butchers. They lived in a big house on Whalley Road - looking at google streetview I think it was the RH one of the pair of tall red brick houses facing the end of Livingstone Road. She later married Sir William Cocker. See second picture down:

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BTW any idea why that area has the name Oaklea or is it Oakleigh?

[Bob Dobson]

I'm not sure if these are the same Slingers. Rhoda's husband was a butcher. His brother was a solicitor. Her son Edward is a recently-retired judge. Her other two lads ran the butchering business. I will enquire. I cannot help with Oaklea/Oakleigh

[susie123]

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson

I'm not sure if these are the same Slingers. Rhoda's husband was a butcher. His brother was a solicitor. Her son Edward is a recently-retired judge. Her other two lads ran the butchering business. I will enquire. I cannot help with Oaklea/Oakleigh

Thanks Bob for confirming my memories.

[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson

I've confirmed that Marshall St became Queensborough Rd. Nearby Ellerbeck Rd used to be called Charles St.
It was going to be called Charles St but it never came to be.
Charles was first name of Rev Whitaker, whose land these two streets were built on. However, the name Ellerbeck is the name of the house near Clitheroe in which lived Miss Slinger, related in some way to Mr (Major?) Slinger who apears to have bought the land from Whitaker's executors and re-named the streets. These streets were on the Laneside Estate. One of the streets on it was intended to be called Slinger Rd but was later changed. I've forgotten which one and will need to look it up. Watch this space

Let me know by PM when your next in the Library, I have a map you might want to look at. It will explain about the missing streets, and name changes.