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03-02-2010, 11:21
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Re: HILLTOP NURSING HOME, Manchester Road, Acc
I will be goingt o teh meetinga nd am in full support of teh plans. As others say teh entrance is on Newton drive with pedestrian access from M/c rd.
As it stands its already a sprawling 3 storey (IIRC) set of buildings and is well hidden behind mature trees etc so should still not be any more visible than teh 60s stuff thats already there.
The lack of accomodation in Hyndburn for retired people needing some support is and should be a factor in its favour. its all well being NIMBYs till you need somewhere for YOUR elderly parent(s).
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03-02-2010, 18:39
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Re: HILLTOP NURSING HOME, Manchester Road, Acc
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03-02-2010, 18:55
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Re: HILLTOP NURSING HOME, Manchester Road, Acc
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Classy Park .. sure this company will give the building a good looking facade.
Don't know whether people realise but everytime you put in a Planning Application such as this ... will cost you about £345 for each property, therefore, the Hillside people will have paid approximately £22 >>23,000 for their current one. I think they will get it, however, will be interesting. Let us know what happens at the meeting Entwisi.
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03-02-2010, 19:19
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Re: HILLTOP NURSING HOME, Manchester Road, Acc
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Classy Park .. sure this company will give the building a good looking facade.
Don't know whether people realise but everytime you put in a Planning Application such as this ... will cost you about £345 for each property, therefore, the Hillside people will have paid approximately £22 >>23,000 for their current one. I think they will get it, however, will be interesting. Let us know what happens at the meeting Entwisi.
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Cheers kate. when is the planning meeting for this application?
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03-02-2010, 20:05
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Re: HILLTOP NURSING HOME, Manchester Road, Acc
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Cheers kate. when is the planning meeting for this application?
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The next meeting is the 10th February, but not listed on the agenda that this is up for determination .. will have to keep our beady eyes open for the March one .. 31st.
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03-02-2010, 21:49
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Re: HILLTOP NURSING HOME, Manchester Road, Acc
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The next meeting is the 10th February, but not listed on the agenda that this is up for determination .. will have to keep our beady eyes open for the March one .. 31st.
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Not an easy one to deal with, think the planners may be talking to the developers, asking for modifications to the plans
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18-04-2010, 08:02
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Re: HILLTOP NURSING HOME, Manchester Road, Acc
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18-04-2010, 08:27
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Re: HILLTOP NURSING HOME, Manchester Road, Acc
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18-04-2010, 09:23
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Re: HILLTOP NURSING HOME, Manchester Road, Acc
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18-04-2010, 10:40
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Re: HILLTOP NURSING HOME, Manchester Road, Acc
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Have ya read the comment submitted to that link?
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18-04-2010, 12:29
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Re: HILLTOP NURSING HOME, Manchester Road, Acc
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Have ya read the comment submitted to that link?
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Right on Cashman, what the hell are those people who work in the so called planning department doing, and why do we need a planning department
if the council have to hire consultants.
Who made the descision to hire consultants in the first place.
Retlaw.
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18-04-2010, 18:08
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Re: HILLTOP NURSING HOME, Manchester Road, Acc
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Right on Cashman, what the hell are those people who work in the so called planning department doing, and why do we need a planning department
if the council have to hire consultants.
Who made the descision to hire consultants in the first place.
Retlaw.
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Planning Departments in councils are not large in the way of employing experts in all the different fields of planning my dear Lurch, housing, regeneration, environmental, transport,etc. It is more economical for them to use consultants on a short term basis than take on high maintenance employees (pensions, specialist equipment, working space, coffee machines.. LOL.. etc).
Look at it this way. An analogy would be when you visit your G.P. .. yes, a very experienced medical person who can give advice and diagnosis on lots of ailments, but sorting the problems out, then you have to be passed on to a consultant.
I think in the case of Hilltop, the council now has to look at more expert independent help in bringing this to a satisfactory conclusion. The developer wants this building, but also their investment has to be profitable. The council wants this land developed, and the residents also would prefer the land to be put to use instead of the derelict wasteland that is there at the moment.
Planners within the council have to deal with all types of planning on a daily basis but not always in depth on any particular aspect of it. Unfortunately, they do get bogged down quite a lot by Councillors queries !
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19-04-2010, 09:24
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Re: HILLTOP NURSING HOME, Manchester Road, Acc
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Planning Departments in councils are not large in the way of employing experts in all the different fields of planning my dear Lurch, housing, regeneration, environmental, transport,etc. It is more economical for them to use consultants on a short term basis than take on high maintenance employees (pensions, specialist equipment, working space, coffee machines.. LOL.. etc).
Look at it this way. An analogy would be when you visit your G.P. .. yes, a very experienced medical person who can give advice and diagnosis on lots of ailments, but sorting the problems out, then you have to be passed on to a consultant.
I think in the case of Hilltop, the council now has to look at more expert independent help in bringing this to a satisfactory conclusion. The developer wants this building, but also their investment has to be profitable. The council wants this land developed, and the residents also would prefer the land to be put to use instead of the derelict wasteland that is there at the moment.
Planners within the council have to deal with all types of planning on a daily basis but not always in depth on any particular aspect of it. Unfortunately, they do get bogged down quite a lot by Councillors queries !
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I think your spot on there kate and your diagnosis is great too
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02-08-2010, 11:37
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Re: HILLTOP NURSING HOME, Manchester Road, Acc
Oh dear...it would appear from the Lancashire Telegraph that English Heritage is now opposing the redevelopment of this garage site:
Heritage row over Baxenden car home site (From Lancashire Telegraph)
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