Planning Applications - Page 34

jaysay · 11-12-2010, 17:01

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Originally Posted by park381

Looks that way kate, might call in a scaitcliffe towers and view the application plans

What about this one

11/10/0522

Major full: Erection of 10 No dwellings on
site of former Springhill WMC Lonsdale
Street/Pickup Street Accrington

Land at Lonsdale Street
Accrington

29/11/2010

Mr S Hussain

went past the site on friday, work was in full swing, machines on there floor slabs and pot beam floor down, application has not gone to committee yet, must have had the nod from someone in power

Its actually a bit silly starting wihout planning Park, could just end up get retro refused, then their in the dodo

park381 · 11-12-2010, 17:08

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Its actually a bit silly starting wihout planning Park, could just end up get retro refused, then their in the dodo

I know that, you know that, but it would seem that the builder does not know that.............may be has friends on planning committee and knows something we don't

park381 · 11-12-2010, 17:20

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Originally Posted by katex

270 Whalley Road Accrington
BB5 5DQ
Mr. M. Hussain.
http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...nda_081210.pdf

Had another look at this link, and I find that the officer has noted at the start of the report "Councillor Ayub requested that this application be considered by the planning committee"
Councillor Ayub is a member of the planning committee,is his request not a little naughty, should he not declaire an interest as and when the application is discussed in planning committee and leave the room.

katex · 11-12-2010, 19:06

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Originally Posted by park381

Had another look at this link, and I find that the officer has noted at the start of the report "Councillor Ayub requested that this application be considered by the planning committee"
Councillor Ayub is a member of the planning committee,is his request not a little naughty, should he not declaire an interest as and when the application is discussed in planning committee and leave the room.

I did puzzle about that one, Park, as to if he had some sort of interest ... just thought he may have been trying to do his best for one of his constituents. Wonder which way he voted though.

Neil · 11-12-2010, 19:11

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Originally Posted by park381

I know that, you know that, but it would seem that the builder does not know that.............may be has friends on planning committee and knows something we don't

I think they should make them remove the work they have done before the planning application is decided on. I think it is wrong for a builder to start without it as they know they need it. Stick them with a big fine so they will wait next time.

park381 · 11-12-2010, 19:15

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Originally Posted by katex

I did puzzle about that one, Park, as to if he had some sort of interest ... just thought he may have been trying to do his best for one of his constituents. Wonder which way he voted though.

As stated previous, he should have declaired an interest and left the meeting, but you put it very well "one of his constituents" lol

park381 · 11-12-2010, 19:17

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Originally Posted by Neil

I think they should make them remove the work they have done before the planning application is decided on. I think it is wrong for a builder to start without it as they know they need it. Stick them with a big fine so they will wait next time.

A perfect world.................I wish, but I agree with you.

Alan Varrechia · 11-12-2010, 21:07

I live just around the corner from there and they have been working on there for a good few weeks. Makes me hope they don't get the permission, but somehow i think thats already been sorted. The power of the brown envelope strikes again.........

:rolle yes:

Neil · 12-12-2010, 08:00

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Originally Posted by park381

A perfect world.................I wish, but I agree with you.

The planning lot at the Council appear to have no real power. Why are they not knocking on the site formans door and telling him to stop work as they have no planning permission to be working?

park381 · 12-12-2010, 08:42

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Originally Posted by Neil

The planning lot at the Council appear to have no real power. Why are they not knocking on the site formans door and telling him to stop work as they have no planning permission to be working?

That is true, they add conditions to planning permissions granted, conditions designed to protect residents from noise, pollution, and extended working hours. Then make excuses as to why they do not enforce those conditions

Neil · 12-12-2010, 08:49

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Originally Posted by park381

That is true, they add conditions to planning permissions granted, conditions designed to protect residents from noise, pollution, and extended working hours. Then make excuses as to why they do not enforce those conditions

Are any of our Councillor members on the planning committee?
If so maybe they can explain how a building delvelopment like this can start without planning permission and why it has not been shut down yet.

park381 · 12-12-2010, 09:26

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Originally Posted by Neil

Are any of our Councillor members on the planning committee?
If so maybe they can explain how a building delvelopment like this can start without planning permission and why it has not been shut down yet.

Councillor M Haworth is vice chair, Councillor B Roberts, Councillor D Hayes are all members of the planning committee, if they are also members of accy web may be they could explain why the development is being allowed to carry on prior to planning permission being given

Neil · 12-12-2010, 09:33

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Originally Posted by park381

Councillor M Haworth is vice chair, Councillor B Roberts, Councillor D Hayes are all members of the planning committee, if they are also members of accy web may be they could explain why the development is being allowed to carry on prior to planning permission being given

So what will be a no then.

The Councillors are only on the committe though, we must have enforcement officers. Is it not there job to make sure this sort of thing does not happen?

park381 · 12-12-2010, 09:44

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Originally Posted by Neil

So what will be a no then.

The Councillors are only on the committe though, we must have enforcement officers. Is it not there job to make sure this sort of thing does not happen?

I think its the technical officers of the council that prepare reports for the planning committee that report will contain details of the application and reasons it should be either accepted or refused, however the planning committee do not always vote as per the report recommendation as has happened in the past, sometimes resulting in an appeal by the applicant. Yes HBC does have an "enforcement officer"...........over worked by all accounts but he/she has been a busy bee looking at the list attached.

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...s_01.11.10.pdf

jaysay · 12-12-2010, 10:20

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Originally Posted by park381

As stated previous, he should have declaired an interest and left the meeting, but you put it very well "one of his constituents" lol

Don't think that is quite correct park, a councillor only has to declare an interest if he has involvement with the said application or with the applicant, can't see anything wrong with a constituent lobbying a councillor with regards to planning no more than contacting him/her with regards to say their dust bin not being emptied, so long as no sort of inducement is offered