Planning Applications - Page 51

park381 · 01-07-2011, 15:45

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Originally Posted by katex

Thanks, Tealeaf, noticed this in applications for Blackburn and Darwen the other week. Lot of reading in there from other councils' experiences, but interesting nevertheless.

The main statement is :

'Helping to reduce crime, fear of crime and nuisance in Lancashire'

Is this a bad area then for back alley crime ?

The applicant is HBC, but doesn't, obviously, state where funding is coming from. Could well be part of some scheme on crime prevention or summat ?

Wonder how much all that "design" work cost, will the project create a no go area?

Mikejoed · 05-07-2011, 17:28

I too am curious as to why the need in this particular area for Alley gating. Hope this isn't the start of Councils penning areas in so they end up looking like ghettos.

When the workmen erecting these knock off for the day do you think they say "Se ya later allygator!"

katex · 05-07-2011, 17:41

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Originally Posted by Mikejoed

I too am curious as to why the need in this particular area for Alley gating. Hope this isn't the start of Councils penning areas in so they end up looking like ghettos.

When the workmen erecting these knock off for the day do you think they say "Se ya later allygator!"

As far as I can see, this is a first for Hyndburn, Mike, sure it could be the start of more applications. Problem is, when they alleygate certain backstreets, it just leaves the surrounding ones more vulnerable to crime.

jaysay · 05-07-2011, 17:47

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Originally Posted by katex

As far as I can see, this is a first for Hyndburn, Mike, sure it could be the start of more applications. Problem is, when they alleygate certain backstreets, it just leaves the surrounding ones more vulnerable to crime.

It actually happens quite a lot in the area where Joan lives Kate and there has been a great improvement in the break ins and vandalism saga

park381 · 05-07-2011, 18:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay

It actually happens quite a lot in the area where Joan lives Kate and there has been a great improvement in the break ins and vandalism saga

You mean other areas have been fitted with "alley gates" without planning permission.

katex · 15-07-2011, 06:09

Am I reading this correctly ?
A fitness centre/gym is proposed within this building ?

Application No:11/11/0306Registration Date:12 Jul 2011Location:ACCRINGTON SUPERBOWL THE VIADUCT HYNDBURN ROAD ACCRINGTON Development:Certificate of Lawful Proposed Use (Section 192): Use of building as fitness suite (Use Class D2)

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park381 · 15-07-2011, 06:18

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Originally Posted by katex

Am I reading this correctly ?
A fitness centre/gym is proposed within this building ?

Application No:11/11/0306Registration Date:12 Jul 2011Location:ACCRINGTON SUPERBOWL THE VIADUCT HYNDBURN ROAD ACCRINGTON Development:Certificate of Lawful Proposed Use (Section 192): Use of building as fitness suite (Use Class D2)

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Looks that way, would have thought there were enough fitness centres/gyms in Accrington, is there not one at the other end of Hyndburn road

katex · 15-07-2011, 06:22

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Originally Posted by park381

What to do, here are two planning applications for 22 Haslingden Old Road

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The first application was withdrawn, the second application was passed, a two storey extension to the side of the house. What has been built or is in the process of being built is a single storey detached building, fronted by entrance walls, see the approved drawings. The application was passed in 2009,........I pass the site several times a week, there would seem to be a big difference in the approved drawings and what has been built......I wonder does anyone from the planning department visit this website, if so get the Planning Enforcement Officer to visit 22 Haslingden Old Road and check it out.

Eeew .... lookee, Park :

Application No:11/11/0313Registration Date:13 Jul 2011Location:22 HASLINGDEN OLD ROAD BLACKBURN BB1 2DY Development:Householder: Single storey rear extension (retrospective)

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park381 · 15-07-2011, 06:43

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Originally Posted by katex

Eeew .... lookee, Park :

Application No:11/11/0313Registration Date:13 Jul 2011Location:22 HASLINGDEN OLD ROAD BLACKBURN BB1 2DY Development:Householder: Single storey rear extension (retrospective)

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Single storey "rear" extension ha ha, what about the detached single storey extension to the side of the house, the new entrance walls, the lack of off road car parking..................are they going to be allowed to "get away" with it.Think I may need to get my camera out !!

katex · 15-07-2011, 06:48

Go, Parkee, go ...

park381 · 15-07-2011, 11:01

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Originally Posted by katex

Eeew .... lookee, Park :

Application No:11/11/0313Registration Date:13 Jul 2011Location:22 HASLINGDEN OLD ROAD BLACKBURN BB1 2DY Development:Householder: Single storey rear extension (retrospective)

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That is a laugh (retrospective), the brickwork on the kitchen extension is up to roof level. I would put a stop on the whole project and make them take it all down including the detached single storey building, and the entrance walls, nothing like the drawings that were approved. Some people think they can do as they please

It is a question of how strong Hyndburn's development control and enforcement section are.
If the property owners are not made to pull it down then, I see no need for a planning department at all, let people build what they want where they want

katex · 24-08-2011, 20:04

So, what have we got lately .. not a lot.

Slight amendment to Owl Hall plans:

Application No:11/11/0353Registration Date:11 Aug 2011Location:OWL HALL PLANTATION ROAD ACCRINGTON BB5 2DQ Development:ERECTION OF TWO NO DWELLINGS AND SUB-DIVISION OF OWL HALL. (RESULTING IN NO INCREASE IN HOUSE NUMBERS AS APPROVED UNDER PLANNING APPLICATION 11/08/0390

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St. Christophers 2 (!) 6 A side football pitches ... what happened to Netball courts ???

Application No:11/11/0344Registration Date:05 Aug 2011Location:ST CHRISTOPHERS C E HIGH SCHOOL QUEENS ROAD WEST ACCRINGTON LANCS BB5 4AY Development:CREATION OF 3G SURFACE 6 A-SIDE PITCHES AND EXTENSION TO CAR PARK INCLUDING EXTERNAL WORKS AND ASSOCIATED LIGHTING

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Alley Gates got passed .. will now open the Flood Gates :

http://planning.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/WA...rd&pageCount=1

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A refusal .. suppose was bound to happen being the oldest known property in Accrington :

http://planning.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/WA...rd&pageCount=1

walkinman221 · 24-08-2011, 20:30

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Originally Posted by katex

So, what have we got lately .. not a lot.

Slight amendment to Owl Hall plans:

Application No:11/11/0353Registration Date:11 Aug 2011Location:OWL HALL PLANTATION ROAD ACCRINGTON BB5 2DQ Development:ERECTION OF TWO NO DWELLINGS AND SUB-DIVISION OF OWL HALL. (RESULTING IN NO INCREASE IN HOUSE NUMBERS AS APPROVED UNDER PLANNING APPLICATION 11/08/0390

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St. Christophers 2 (!) 6 A side football pitches ... what happened to Netball courts ???

Application No:11/11/0344Registration Date:05 Aug 2011Location:ST CHRISTOPHERS C E HIGH SCHOOL QUEENS ROAD WEST ACCRINGTON LANCS BB5 4AY Development:CREATION OF 3G SURFACE 6 A-SIDE PITCHES AND EXTENSION TO CAR PARK INCLUDING EXTERNAL WORKS AND ASSOCIATED LIGHTING

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Alley Gates got passed .. will now open the Flood Gates :

http://planning.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/WA...rd&pageCount=1

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A refusal .. suppose was bound to happen being the oldest known property in Accrington :

http://planning.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/WA...rd&pageCount=1

The chap who applied for this is a friend of mine and even if he wasnt the decision stinks , the cottages are the oldest listed buildings in in accrington but they have all been extended several times . The extension they wanted would not be seen by anybody other than the householders themselves , the conservation officer got a bee in his bonnet about the extension covering an original window.The window was not being altered covered or removed but he was of the opinion that it was detrimental to the simple linear line of the building which has about five additions on it already.I dont get it its 2011 not 1628 people have to live in these buildings and modern life is different. Anyway rant over sorry

katex · 24-08-2011, 21:09

S'okay for your rant, Walkinman, did feel slightly sympathetic to this myself, I know extensions have to fit in with surrounding, etc., but feel it was more of a political decision.

Couldn't really see what harm it was doing, like you say, particularly as similar to what has been passed before.

I love our old buildings, but sometimes they have to move on.

katex · 30-08-2011, 15:45

Thought you may be interested in two appeals to the Secretary of State which were dismissed.

The first one is domestic, which I don't really like to report on here, but the reasons for disallowing Planning Permission may be helpful :

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...mere_Drive.pdf

Can't say was sorry about this one either:

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...l_Decision.pdf