Teacher in vampire web storm - Page 2

steeljack · 16-02-2007, 01:38

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Originally Posted by garinda

...and I strongly disagree with you.

'Posing like a tart'? What on earth does that mean, .

It means a supposedly grown woman shouldn't be posing in a provocative manner ,on a web-site used mainly by young people, some of whom are supposedly under her care (in loco parentis) what she does in her private life is her business , but dont bring it into the classroom .

Just wondering if you would have the same view if the teacher had been male and a committe member of say the BNP and had similar myspace web-site espousing his political views .

shillelagh · 16-02-2007, 01:51

I think she should be free to teach. Did the kids know anything about this until it went in the papers? Dont you think thats teaching the kids something - go for what ever you want - anything can be reached if you try hard enough. It's been in the national papers this week besides the accy observer.

When I was at school one of my teachers made the headlines in the accy observer ok she'd committed suicide but we had a minutes silence in school assembly for her. When it all came out what had happened that we were all told to show respect and we did.

By the way steeljack not all unwed mothers are slappers you know and no im not an unwed mother - no kids.

mez · 16-02-2007, 08:00

she's got a hell of a lot of free publicity for selling her book .

WillowTheWhisp · 16-02-2007, 08:45

She used a pen name. She didn't promote her books in school. She didn't promote her website to her pupils. I really can't see where she is at fault. She has presumably fulfilled her duties as a teacher.

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Lesley Ham, a Lancashire negotiating secretary for teaching union the NASUWT said: "I welcome this investigation as it is no doubt causing worry to parents and their children.

"In writing lurid material as a teacher you would struggle to maintain professionalism and standing amongst the impressionable young people you are charged with teaching."

I find it hard to believe that a Lancashire negotiating secretary for teaching union cannot understand how a teacher can keep her job and her private life totally seperate. Personally I'd be more worried about her if she couldn't. That's when problems begin to arise when teachers involve their pupils in their private lives.

As we only have the one image of Paigan Stone to go off it's impossible to know if she was or was not 'posing like a tart' on her website but that photo looks like the sort of thing you'd get on the back of the dust jacket of the book - hardly erotic.

As for Shakepeare - hasn't there been a bit of a hoohah about Othello being studied in schools lately due to its steamy eroticism and blatantly racist content? Yet that has been standard reading for 11 - 15 year olds for donkey's years.

Unmarried mother's shouldn't teach? How does their marital status affect their teaching ability? In fact they might be a darned good role model in preference to the proliferation of chav baby producers who sit back and scrounge off the state - a real live example who can show girls that motherhood isn't a doddle and a meal ticket but a genuine commitment to a small human for many years (in fact motherhood is for life as many AccyWeb mothers can tell you)

Why should it be inappropriate for a Christian school to hire someone who writes gothic novels? They employ atheists. They employ muslims. Not all teachers at Christian schools are Christians (neither are the pupils) For all we know Samantha Goldstone may well be a Christian. It's not as if she's taking her class off for midnight orgies in graveyards is it?

janet · 16-02-2007, 09:59

Well said Willow. I am in agreement with you.

garinda · 16-02-2007, 10:01

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Originally Posted by steeljack

Just wondering if you would have the same view if the teacher had been male and a committe member of say the BNP and had similar myspace web-site espousing his political views .

Er....yes, I would still have the same views. Although I find them distasteful, the BNP is a legally recognised party in this country. What other interests a teacher has outside of school is their business, as long as it doesn't affect their work as teachers. They can spend their weekends running around muddy fields dressed as Adolf Hitler or Charles the first for all I care, as long as they fulfil their obligations in the classroom.

Peter Britcliffe taught at my primary school whilst I was there, although he didn't teach me. I presume he had an interest in politics even way back then. It didn't affect his abilities to teach. The pupils he taught, including my brother, loved him, and thought he was a great teacher. I don't remember any outrage because he perhaps spent his weekends canvassing for Ted Heath.

WillowTheWhisp · 16-02-2007, 10:12

Well said Garinda. As long as the BNP member didn't canvas for support in the classroom and stuck to teaching the curriculum, what the heck have their political affiliations got to do with the price of fish?

moonshiner · 16-02-2007, 10:44

Why cant they let the lass get on with her job, theres to many sad folk
with small minds that want there 5mins of fame. what this lady does in her private life . should be just that PRIVATE. As for what P B, as to say its just anotherexcuse to see his name in the paper.

Lolly · 16-02-2007, 10:52

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Originally Posted by steeljack

If they are a single un-wed mothers they shouldn't be teaching in schools , sets a bad example to young people , I wouldn't want a slapper teaching my kids

I hope your joking about this!!!

WillowTheWhisp · 16-02-2007, 10:54

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Originally Posted by steeljack

what she does in her private life is her business , but dont bring it into the classroom .

Absolutely correct - and according to the report she did exactly that - kept it her own business and didn't bring it into the classroom. Unless you know something we don't know which was not reported in the papers.

WillowTheWhisp · 16-02-2007, 10:57

I was just thinking about the subject of unmarried mothers as teachers and it would seem like an deal profession - if they could stand it, more kids as well as their own! I mean the hours (apart from prep work done at home, and extra-curricular meetings etc) would fit well with their own child(ren)'s school hours and holidays.

accymel · 16-02-2007, 11:31

I cant beleive the attitude of some people especially the attitude of some negative responses of attitude here. The amount of people have the audacity to moan about single parents actually do a proffession yet also 1st to judge the stereotype of one also - which i find highly insulting!! I so hope those comments were a joke steeljack for actually conforming to stereotypes suggest a lack of knowledge of those lifestyles - I so hope u dont become a full time single parent because then u would have a shock, the reality is far different than the stereotype & how these stereotypes actually prejudice these people in society & now employment !! As un wed singles are not all slappers either - notice he didnt mention male singletons ?!?! - why do some of them not sleep about either?!?!?!

Personally if a person can do the job they are employed to do then didly do about what they do when they are in their own time as long as that wasn't criminal or harmful. This person the thread is based about wrote a publication in her own time, & agree with comments many has said, that she hasnt blagged it to her pupils until the LET did mmm their responsiblity now for that, she has acheived something that others can inspire on that fact. Oooh btw steeljack, our very own Harry Potter writer JK Rowling is a single parent of 3 [?] wrote her books in her spare time - so was she not capable or a bad influence to society???

As with many beaurocrats should be more concerned with good eductaion & other more worrying aspects of that.

Lolly · 16-02-2007, 11:54

I'm an un-wed single mother and I certainly dont sleep around. the situation i've got myself into certainly doesnt affect my job in anyway. I'm not a teacher but if I was it wouldnt affect that. It can only be good for your child to have a parent whos a teacher cant it. So Steeljack please dont start spouting rude and hurtful things about before you know anything about the people who are going through the situation!!

accymel · 16-02-2007, 12:01

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Originally Posted by Lolly

I'm an un-wed single mother and I certainly dont sleep around. the situation i've got myself into certainly doesnt affect my job in anyway. I'm not a teacher but if I was it wouldnt affect that. It can only be good for your child to have a parent whos a teacher cant it. So Steeljack please dont start spouting rude and hurtful things about before you know anything about the people who are going through the situation!!

LOL why do people think its a life choice

I must be low of the low one certainly church school wise as im a divorced single parent but didnt stop me pursuing being a teaching assistant, in fact that benefitted some of the kids there who did come from split homes because i can identify with them & problems the face because of it that can get overlooked by teachers whom hasnt experienced the situation themselves, also helped educationally those kids because their situation at home may of hindered them

. Teachers & staff should represent the good cut of all crosses of society & catering that

WillowTheWhisp · 16-02-2007, 12:25

I was a single parent when my first husband died. That certainly wasn't a lifestyle choice.