Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Seems a rather contradictory situation to my mind, you take a substance to alleviate respiratory problems - but to deliver this healing substance you introduce it with a product known to causes the damage in the first instance????

Somewhat odd logic that Mags or have I missed something?

It isn't logical to smoke anything if you have damaged lungs.

However, from the viewpoint of a nicotine addict, anything which enables a reduction in nicotine use is an improvement in health, or perhaps better said, is less damaging.

I once had a 30 a day habit - now I smoke 5 and those 5 are mixed with mullein 50/50.

It is interesting to note that as recent as 1940s/50s, TB hospitals prescribed mullein for smokers (not for non smokers!). This was in the days when antibiotics were a novelty.

It does have an expectorant effect and so reduces the risk of fluid build up in the lungs.

PS we seem to have gone off topic - sorry.

[westendlass]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Life should be the only 'high' you need.
Have a look at the story of the young lad who is dying and has just raised 2.5 million quid for the Teenage Cancer charity.
Ask yourself if the stress in your life is equal to what he has gone through with fortitude and courage and then put your own life into that frame and see if the perspectives are better.
I think you might find that they are!

There is nothing like dealing with cancer to give you a short sharp lesson in what life is really about.

Some people really bowl you over with their courage and that young lad is amazing. It brought tears to my eyes when I saw the news footage, what a fantastic human being.

[Margaret Pilkington]

To get back on thread....it seems that David Steel is still maintaining that he knew nothing of the allegations about Cyril Smith. I don't quite know how that can be so.
I worked with a Nurse who lived in Rochdale in the late 70's and she would tell me of the 'rumours' about the fat man....and she said it was general knowledge around the town.
So I don't believe it for a minute.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

To get back on thread....it seems that David Steel is still maintaining that he knew nothing of the allegations about Cyril Smith. I don't quite know how that can be so.
I worked with a Nurse who lived in Rochdale in the late 70's and she would tell me of the 'rumours' about the fat man....and she said it was general knowledge around the town.
So I don't believe it for a minute.

Well lets be honest, no-one who did know is gonna say,"I did, but turned a blind eye"

[Margaret Pilkington]

No Cashy, because that makes them as guilty...but it does make them liars.

[Accyexplorer]

BBC News - Max Clifford guilty of eight indecent assaults

Hopefully this wrong un will get a long sentence.
Tip of the iceberg? Hmmm

If he's so good at public relations, whys everyone think he's a [insert word].

[Accyexplorer]

A few interesting ('speculative') reads:

Barry George, Jill Dando, Jimmy Savile, BBC paedophiles, Cliff Richard, Alan Farthing, Nick Ross and Britain?s dirty secrets | thecolemanexperience

The Curious Case of Nick Clegg, Leon Brittan, William Hague, Derek Laud, Cyril Smith, David Cameron and the VIP Child-Abuse Connection | thecolemanexperience

[Accyexplorer]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

BBC News - Max Clifford guilty of eight indecent assaults

Hopefully this wrong un will get a long sentence.
Tip of the iceberg? Hmmm

If he's so good at public relations, whys everyone think he's a [insert word].

Years of abuse has finally caught up with Max, though he only got 8yrs, he'll probably only serve 4

Will he be bringing down any of the other peado's at top? Very doubtful

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

Will he be bringing down any of the other peado's at top?

Hope springs eternal!

[Restless]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Life should be the only 'high' you need.

So true Margaret, but flawed. There are those that find life to be a downer most of the time and unfortunately for some they don't realise that getting high is escapism and that is walking a tightrope. I of course speak of my own experience. The depressed are so wrapped up in themselves that your statement is a none existent possibility.

[Accyexplorer]

Here we go again.
Max Clifford jailed: Police investigate fresh allegations against shamed PR guru after new women come forward - Mirror Online

[Less]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

Here we go again.
Max Clifford jailed: Police investigate fresh allegations against shamed PR guru after new women come forward - Mirror Online

Nope, here you go again, just a link, no real input.

[Accyexplorer]

Originally Posted by Less

Nope, here you go again, just a link, no real input.

Nope, here you go again, just a (provocative) comment, No real input

Anyway, Max's antics have caught up with him, he could appeal but there's always a chance he could get longer.
Hopefully, with more of his 'victims' coming forward he won't see the light of day again and I know they do segregate what's known in prisons as "beasts", accidents can (and hopefully will) happen.

For anyone interested here's the "sentencing remarks"
http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resource...v-clifford.pdf

[Less]

Not provocative, frustrated by your overuse of links and lack of personal input. We all watch and read the news, so what is the need for your copy & paste?

[Accyexplorer]

Is Jimmy savile doing rap? No, it's Russell from Texas
https://mobile.twitter.com/Texas_Frog