Jade Goody-Is it voyeurism? - Page 2

Caz · 04-03-2009, 22:23

Didn't really doubt it, which is the reason I don't understand the "Providing for the children" bit, as though their father is non existant.

flashy · 04-03-2009, 22:30

i suppose everyone wants to make sure that their kids will be set for life and well cared for when they are gone

cashman · 04-03-2009, 22:32

its very hard to avoid lilly, i certainly have no wish to have this horrible girls woes rammed down me throat, to my mind shes played the "sympathy" vote to perfection, n many who detested her, now think she's a martyr, well not this kid. many big stars have gone with cancer with dignity, max clifford should teach her what the word means.

Caz · 04-03-2009, 22:34

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Originally Posted by flashy

i suppose everyone wants to make sure that their kids will be set for life and well cared for when they are gone

Maybe so, but to what extent? The memory of the last months of their mother's life with them will be of being trailed everywhere by cameras and documentary teams.

flashy · 04-03-2009, 22:39

yeah i know what you mean Caz, like i said, she should be spending her last few days/months with her family

Royboy39 · 04-03-2009, 22:45

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Originally Posted by flashy

i suppose everyone wants to make sure that their kids will be set for life and well cared for when they are gone

Flashy you are absolutly spot on, the Girl has not long to live and I dont give a toss about the nerd who is her husband.
Max Clifford who has been appointed as her agent should and by all accounts is doing all he can to secure the future of her children...I fail to see anything wrong in that.?

magily · 04-03-2009, 23:03

With regards to providing for her children I can totally understand that. I seem to remember hearing that for her it is important that her kids continued to be taught at a private school. She does not deny that she is not very intellectual so therefore she wants her kids to have the best education that money can buy. The smart thing she did was make sure that the money is going to the kids and not Jack Tweed because I cannot help but feel that he does not have the best of intentions.
Let's be honest though even with their father they should be okay financially, no doubt he is being paid ok from the x factor tour.

cashman · 04-03-2009, 23:15

its only my assumption, but i reckon between her n the kids father, those kids should have plenty of oppertunity to do well in life, as anyone considered how all this who-ha could possibly effect em, they are only kids after all.

garinda · 05-03-2009, 00:41

Is it voyeuristic?

Yes it is.

That's her career, being watched.

If her short and sad life had been a script it would have been rejected, for lack of realism.

Born poor of mixed race parents.
By passed by the education system.
Abandoned by her father, and dragged up by a mother who becomes a lesbian drug addict, and subsequenty loses an arm in a motorbike accident.
Came to public attention on a television programme, where she was watched twenty four hours a day for two months.
Loathed as crass, and woefully naive.
Taken under a nations wing, who know decide they like the unworldly ingenue.
Achieves great success, with no other talent than being herself.
Becomes a multi-millionairess.
Guests on a celebrity version of the programme that first launched her to stardom.
Displays brutal bullying and arrogance, and is accused of racism, which raises questions in the House of Commons.
Effigies of her are burnt on the Indian sub-continent.
Dropped by the media, and faces financial ruin, as merchandising deals are pulled.
Makes a journey of penance to India, home of her accused victim.
Fades somewhat from the public gaze.
Sometime later is asked to appear on the Indian version of the aforementioned programme.
Is told live on the programme the results of a health check, and that she has cancer.
Finds out the cancer is terminal.
Weds her boyfriend, exclusively and lucratively sponsored to ensure she leaves a legacy for her two sons from a previous relationship.
Lives out her last days in the glare of the media's gaze.
The end.

I've no problem with her wanting to appear on television and in the media whilst she dies, in the hope of securing the financial future of her children. I've not seen any of the coverage, as I don't buy the papers and magazines she's in. It is sad that someone so young is dying, but so are hundreds of other young parents at this very moment, and who don't have the luxury of being able to sell the experience, and leave their loved ones a nest egg.

It will have helped raise awarenes of this terrible and indiscriminate disease, but the whole story is more telling of the media obsessed cult of celebrity we now live in.

As a media exercise in learning more about living with and dying from cancer, I found reading Justine Picardie's account in the Observer much more enlightening, and moving.

garinda · 05-03-2009, 00:54

Although she'll be able to leave money to provide for her children financially, I wonder what lessons she'll have taught, and also provided them with, as a result of being famous for no particular reason.

On the whole her career has been fairly unique, ceratainly in the light of other reality programme contestants, who've long since disappeared from public view, and haven't succeeded in making a career out of doing very little work, other than being themselves.

magily · 05-03-2009, 00:58

Garinda what an excellent summary of her life. I read an article last week in the dailymail online talking about what kind of culture is it that highlights someone who is as uneducated as Jade yet they ridicule the girl who helped the team win university challenge. Apparently she had a lot of negative things said about her. I do not buy any of these magazines but do confess to reading many different British newspapers online, some more sleazy than others as it is my little taste of home.

garinda · 05-03-2009, 01:06

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Originally Posted by magily

Garinda what an excellent summary of her life. I read an article last week in the dailymail online talking about what kind of culture is it that highlights someone who is as uneducated as Jade yet they ridicule the girl who helped the team win university challenge. Apparently she had a lot of negative things said about her. I do not buy any of these magazines but do confess to reading many different British newspapers online, some more sleazy than others as it is my little taste of home.

I'm no hypocrite. I watch Big Brother. I find it a fascinating social experiment...plus I just love watching people.

I too loathed her babyish stupidty at first, but changed my mind, and wanted this underdog of society to win. She wasn't stupid, just let down by the system.

I thought her subsequent behaviour on the back of her fame, was appalling.

If she became a monster, it's only because we created that monster.

Mick · 05-03-2009, 07:48

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I can't help thinking to myself:
It just seems to me that she is making a mockery of all the people that suffer from this indiscriminate, horrid disease. To me she's making it seem like she's the only one to ever be diagnosed with cancer.
Last week we heard of the great man Sir Bobby Robson beating cancer for the fifth time. We saw the sad demise of Wendy Richard. Neither of those people plastered themselves all over tabloids and crap magazines. They were doing what was right for their family. They acted with integrity.
Jade Goody is still a talentless idiot, who has made a living of being so. Please stop buying the media that propones her disgusting behaviour!

Well I've been thinking it so there's no point keeping it bottled up. I'm going to hell anyway - God hears everything

All the best to her young family, who frankly deserve better.

I must agree with this as i have been thinking the very same thing.
don't get me wrong i would not wish this on anyone but the way its being pushed on us in mags,tv etc you would think it was something new and she was the only one to ever get Cancer.
she might be trying to get money for the family after she has gone but why not give some of that money to research
she has had her fame she should now spend time with her family and friends
i am really getting sick of her look at me attitude sorry but that's how i feel

jaysay · 05-03-2009, 12:57

Can really say that I never had much time for her myself, maybe because I have never watched Big Brother, but its been said that she's a girl with little intelligence, that maybe so, but she knows how to use the media to her own advantage, a trait that many top line stars and even politicians would love to be able to do, this lass was very savvy when it came to pushing buttons and get the bet results for herself. Sadly her short life is now coming to an end and I only have heart felt sympathy for a fellow human being. Ill health is something we have little control of, but for your life to be at an end at the age of 27 when the world was at her feet is a tragedy for not only Jade but for her children too, one can only hope that some one looks after those kids as I can't see Mr Tweed being much of a role model with his track record, even now he faces going back to jail for assault

Gayle · 05-03-2009, 15:57

Is it just me or does anyone else feel like this is a bit surreal? I mean, because of the way it's been played out in the media, it almost feels like there's something else at play here, almost like there's going to be some miraculous recovery or something.

I'm sure that she wouldn't be so manipulative and if it was something a bit bizarre then there would be too many people involved to keep it under wraps - but something, somewhere feels odd about it all.

It's probably just me, feeling like that.