Jade Goody-Is it voyeurism?

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by emamum

she is famous for showing her 'kebab' on a reality tv show

Jade was a media commodity, and as such she gave the media what she thought they wanted....she gave them what she thought would keep her in the limelight...she was a wannabe(though I have to say I cringe at that term)......and if that meant she had to show off bits of herself that would be better left covered that was what she was going to do.
Jade wanted to be loved and accepted......she was a quintessential Essex Girl......a mouthy broad.......and unfortunately lots of girls wished to be like her.

Whatever our personal feelings of her were, she has had a very short life.......and one that was ended in a very sad way.

I didn't like the girl, but I do think she has made a difference to women. By that, I mean that more women than ever are now having their long overdue smears done....they are not Failing to Attend their clinic appointments for screening and treatments....and if this means that only one life is saved...then Jade has done a good job.
It will be an even better job she has done if the ridiculous age related screening program is kicked into touch too.

[pipinfort]

Originally Posted by emamum

well said Neil

Ditto..............

[West Ender]

There was a 5 page spread about Jade Goody in today's Express. It seems that she will have 21 funeral cars in procession behind the hearse and tv screens outside the church relaying the service.
There are banks of flowers laid on the ground outside her house.

Now, I've already said I felt compassion for her when she was dying and I don't retract from that. I feel compassion for anyone who is dying, especially so young and with small children. That doesn't mean I thought she had become a different person, she was still common, foul-mouthed and obnoxious, just in a pitiable position.

The present situation, however, bothers me. Even the most, ostensibly, sensible public figures are treating this unfortunate girl like a martyr. The public are fast heading down the Diana route and I forsee weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth at the funeral; outpourings of ludicrous faux grief and screams of "Jade" as the cortege passes.

I was a bit disturbed to hear that Stephen Fry, the self-appointed Wise Man of QI, had called her "Princess Diana from the wrong side of the tracks". That was until I realised that Fry had hit the nail on the head. He was describing a woman, who was famous for being famous, who had the ability (and the publicity machinery) to get Joe Public onside no matter what were her faults and the incredible timing of Nature to pop her clogs at just the opportune moment. Fry's gift for irony is not to be underestimated.

[lindsay ormerod]

I can see it getting very messy.

[Lilly]

Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod

I can see it getting very messy.

In what way?

[lindsay ormerod]

Just lots of daft hysteria from folk who wouldn't have given a damn about her previously, just like the hysteria we had with Diana, most folk didn't give a fig for her when she was alive, but the mass outpouring of public grief just got ridiculous. Think this will go the same way, wouldn't be suprised to see some charity single for the bandwagon jumpers. Sad but true, it's human nature.

[garinda]

Jade Goody biopic in the works

Plans are afoot to turn the reality TV star's second autobiography into a feature film.

Jade Goody biopic in the works | Film | guardian.co.uk

[jaysay]

Just read this morning that the local council are going to name a block of flats after her (no not HBC) and it appears that she hasn't left her husband anything in her will, just the kids and some kids in Africa. So he can stew on that when he's banged up again shortly

[blazey]

What simply annoys me about the whole thing is that all the money raised would be going to her children and never a mention of a single penny going to any causes or any sort.

She should have set up a trust in the name of her cause. She'd avoid the inheritance tax, probably receive more regular donations to the fund even after she'd dead, she could ensure enough money was set aside in high interest rate savings for her kids so they'd have plenty of money and generally it'd look a hell of a lot better.

Trusts are the way forward. This is what I have learnt this year. Obviously the money for her kids will still be drilled into trusts but the 40% inheritance tax cut (its still 40% isn't it?) isn't pleasant.

I'm sure we have a thread similar to this about wills and such.

[blazey]

As for women who have died from cervical cancer, Eva Peron and little Eva (Eva Boyd) both died of it.

She isn't the first, she won't be the last. I think seeing her face on the front of everything is a bit sickening and the only thing I've listened to about her is the radio, not bought the magazines and newspapers or read them online.

Apart from the idea of the statue... that is just insane.

[shakermaker]

It's tragic that a young mother has died.

I just hope the lingering stench of Jade Goody's cause célèbre fades sooner rather than later.

[lindsay ormerod]

Originally Posted by blazey

As for women who have died from cervical cancer, Eva Peron and little Eva (Eva Boyd) both died of it.

She isn't the first, she won't be the last. I think seeing her face on the front of everything is a bit sickening and the only thing I've listened to about her is the radio, not bought the magazines and newspapers or read them online.

Apart from the idea of the statue... that is just insane.

Hey, tell you what,I didn't like her either, but I think you have a lot to learn about a bit of compassion for your fellow man, live and let live Blazey. If you don't like the media circus don't get involved , simples!



PS those reminder letter for smear tests are there for a reason ladies.....

[planetsusie]

Jade Goody?
On a personal level I have no feelings one way or another about her or anything she may have done. I'm not about to start casting stones at someone else. Its terrible someone, anyone that age loses a life

The impact for me around this is the uptake in smear invitations that are flowing in.
I probably averaged about 8 smears a week a month ago
Yesterday I did 12 in a day. This has been the case now for several weeks.
Women who have avoided, delayed and consistently non-attended for this test are phoning for appointments and turning up. (this and smoking appointment are the ones people don't turn up for most regular)
Some of these women have had previous smears showing abnormal cells and still haven't returned until now, for follow up
So, its motivated people to look after themselves and take it seriously.

[blazey]

I've had a smear test even though I'm under 25, because I had a problem that I was worried about and fortunately all was fine.

The problem with lowering the age is that it was raised in the first place because the cervix isn't guaranteed to be fully developed before 25 and its not unusual for abnormal cells to show up on the tests and it causes unnecessary worry and wasting of time and money in the majority of cases.

I'm currently not old enough to have a smear test at the doctors unless I've got good reason to be concerned about my health. I had mine at the Brook clinic in Blackburn town centre, and I let it be observed so that other women could be trained to carry them out.

Lots of my friends sadly don't go for them even though many have been sexually active from around the age of 14. As they're the same age as me, that is 6yrs without any screening, which I think is pretty terrible but at the same time now the rules have changed on the age you have them, they're mostly going to be turned away anyway.

There's never a black and white solution to problems like these and naturally people are going to get ill. Many will recover, some will die young. Fortunately the deaths from cervical cancer has decreased over the years and yes, maybe the exposure to Jade Goody's story will save a few more.

What I think is sad is that Jade Goody continued to work whilst she was dying. Now there are people who are saying 'well anyone would have done it' but the fact of the matter is that it was only the sheer amount of money that she was getting for it that made her carry on. The 'average person' equivalent would be taking your children to work with you in order to still make money and still spend time with them, and quite frankly most people just wouldn't do it. So she wants her children privately educated, don't we all? Sadly though most people just have to make do with what they've got and accept that there just isn't time to waste on material things.

I doubt her boys would have ever begrudged their mum for being unable to provide them private education because she was dying. They would have loved her all the same and will probably wish they had more time with her, everyone wishes they had more time with their loved ones before they died. And I don't doubt that they would wish they had more time with her away from the cameras and that she'd worked less. And that is what bothers me about the whole thing. The fact that people think these boys are going to really care all that much about the money and the education when they've lost something that can't be replaced and there is a hole that just can't be filled with anything.

What a sad world if we think its great that someone worked til the moment they died and just took their children along with them most of the time. I'd be really upset if my mum felt the need to do that for me and private education certainly wouldn't be something I'd see much value in in comparison to the time I could have spent with her without the cameras and the constant attention.

[grannyclaret]

21 funeral cars seems rather a lot....The nicest and most moving funeral was in my opinion Dusty Springfield's,,,