Licence's

[Barrie Yates]

It is my understanding that the Licence Fee is in fact a licence to operate a radio/TV receiver. The revenue from the licence fee does not go directly to the BBC but to the government who then fund the BBC. That is perhaps why it is legal to watch a programme via your compter as that is not a radio/TV receiver.

Maybe the "Freemen" will have something to whinge about when - if he is not paying his utility and TV charges as he intimates, the various agencies take him to court and he is required to pay, or better still to go on a rather restricted holiday

[Chris SUI JURIS]

Rather than running off mid descussion and giving bad karma why not stay and have it out?

You may learn something

[Boeing Guy]

Chris, I have not given you any bad Karma.
As you are on my ignore list, I can only see you and your posts when I am not signed in, this stops me giving you bad Karma. Although some one has given unsigned good Karma, cheers for that
As I said I am bored with this conversation it is going nowhere, you see your demands on United Utilities are unreasonable, as they cannot answer almost all of them with 100% accuracy, something you requested.

[Chris SUI JURIS]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Chris, I have not given you any bad Karma.
As you are on my ignore list, I can only see you and your posts when I am not signed in, this stops me giving you bad Karma. Although some one has given unsigned good Karma, cheers for that
As I said I am bored with this conversation it is going nowhere, you see your demands on United Utilities are unreasonable, as they cannot answer almost all of them with 100% accuracy, something you requested.

I'm 100% sure they know and can answer my demands,After all They are the ones providing said service ..They can't or rather they don't want to answer any of my demands( i didnt request anything ) because It's easier to go after the vunrable who don't argue or know their being cheated,robbed,poisioned etc.

Your right this conversation is going nowhere and it's off topic

[Chris SUI JURIS]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

It is my understanding that the Licence Fee is in fact a licence to operate a radio/TV receiver. The revenue from the licence fee does not go directly to the BBC but to the government who then fund the BBC. That is perhaps why it is legal to watch a programme via your compter as that is not a radio/TV receiver.

Maybe the "Freemen" will have something to whinge about when - if he is not paying his utility and TV charges as he intimates, the various agencies take him to court and he is required to pay, or better still to go on a rather restricted holiday

If i ever end up going to court(which i very much doubt) rest assured Accyweb will be the first to know,i may even invite a few to see how i roll when confronted by the dreaded magistrates court

[cashman]

I very much doubt if anyone would be remotely interested in attending a court appearance of yours. So i wouldn't concern meself on that score.

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS

Here is a abstract from my letter to United Utilities

I would be happy to discuss settlement of any financial obligation I might owe, as soon as I receive the following documentation from you:
1. Validation of the ‘bill’ (the actual accounting including costs per dwelling of adding chemicals and/or medication to my water supply);
2.. Unequivocal evidence that United Utilities Group PLC are not medicating myself and my family members by adding chemical additives to the water supply
3.Unequivocal evidence that the fluoride added to the water supply by United Utilities Group PLC is not a bi-product of the agro-chemical industry and therefore deemed as industrial waste
4.Unequivocal evidence that there are any benefits to humans resulting from the consumption of fluoride in the water supply;
5.Unequivocal evidence that there are no harmful side effects from other chemicals (including chlorine) added to the water supply by United Utilities Group PLC

It is my view that every human being has a right to a clean, safe and health promoting water supply and that United Utilities Group PLC are in breach of this human right and therefore in breach of their duty of care.

If that is gonna be your defence you are on a hiding to nothing. Most laws are based on the word 'reasonable'. In your case it is 'unreasonable' to request 'unequivocable' evidence since that would require the water company to state something it cannot. Which you know quite well. However the onus of proof would be on you to show that the water delivered to you was not clean, safe and health promoting.

It could easily be argued that since everyone else was in fact paying their bills, and that no-one had actually had any serious adverse effects from using it, that it was reasonable to suppose that the water was clean, safe and health promoting.

You are playing the system, just like the MP's who use the excuse thats its legal to scam their expenses.

Eventually you will get your wish to get your day in court and you will come out the worse for it. Say hello to Bubba for me

[Chris SUI JURIS]

Originally Posted by Guinness

If that is gonna be your defence you are on a hiding to nothing. Most laws are based on the word 'reasonable'. In your case it is 'unreasonable' to request 'unequivocable' evidence since that would require the water company to state something it cannot. Which you know quite well. However the onus of proof would be on you to show that the water delivered to you was not clean, safe and health promoting.

It could easily be argued that since everyone else was in fact paying their bills, and that no-one had actually had any serious adverse effects from using it, that it was reasonable to suppose that the water was clean, safe and health promoting.

You are playing the system, just like the MP's who use the excuse thats its legal to scam their expenses.

Eventually you will get your wish to get your day in court and you will come out the worse for it. Say hello to Bubba for me

What about just evidence instead of 'unequivocable' evidence?
I'm pretty sure if i had to i could knock up a legal argument about health issues relating to water
In my eyes it's war with UU so the gloves are off but if your right and i do go court(if i decide to Accept there invite that is) i'll record it and you can watch it on youtube and if i go on a vacation to HMP (which theres no chance of) i'll pass your regards onto Bubba

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS

What about just evidence instead of 'unequivocable' evidence?
I'm pretty sure if i had to i could knock up a legal argument about health issues relating to water
In my eyes it's war with UU so the gloves are off but if your right and i do go court(if i decide to Accept there invite that is) i'll record it and you can watch it on youtube and if i go on a vacation to HMP (which theres no chance of) i'll pass your regards onto Bubba

You'll definitely be meeting Bubba my friend

Non-attendance at court - warrant issued for arrest

As for video recording (which is only allowable at the courts discretion), it's for personal use only, which will be made clear at the hearing. If you put it on youtube, my guess is you'd be up for contempt.

If you've declared war, you're gonna need a gun not a peashooter

[Boeing Guy]

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS

What about just evidence instead of 'unequivocable' evidence?
I'm pretty sure if i had to i could knock up a legal argument about health issues relating to water
In my eyes it's war with UU so the gloves are off but if your right and i do go court(if i decide to Accept there invite that is) i'll record it and you can watch it on youtube and if i go on a vacation to HMP (which theres no chance of) i'll pass your regards onto Bubba

Although you say you are not a Freeman on the land....you talk just like one, accept a invite to court....so what will you do when a Police Officer arrests you, they will not be swayed by your pseudo legal arguments.

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Of course it's easier to carry on not paying bills........

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Of course it's easier to carry on not paying bills........

That is if he is not paying the bills - sounds like a load of BS from a troll. He says he isn't but I just do not beleive him - perhaps being economical with the truth is the mildest comment one can make.
So Mr Freemen prove to Accyweb that you are not paying the bills as you have stated.

[Restless]

Chris what do you do for a living ?

[Chris SUI JURIS]

Originally Posted by Guinness

You'll definitely be meeting Bubba my friend

Non-attendance at court - warrant issued for arrest

As for video recording (which is only allowable at the courts discretion), it's for personal use only, which will be made clear at the hearing. If you put it on youtube, my guess is you'd be up for contempt.

If you've declared war, you're gonna need a gun not a peashooter

Since you seem interested
There's a few folk(not just on here) who live in fear of court and what the big bad judge might do if you end up infront of him,They are only interested in cash and how they can line their pockets,their not interested in justice etc.
I did'nt say i'd ignore a court invite,I deal with my own affairs,I think dealing with these companys without the need of a third party(court) sticking there noses into my business is the key.

Video recording:Have you asked yourself why they don't like you filming in court? If you give consent and they have nothing to hide Why not?(they are filming you soon as you step foot into the god forbidden place,but thats ok i assume) as for contempt thats another fear tactic they use(it would have to be proven to a criminal standard(not much chance of that then) The whole "i find you in comtempt,send him down" is all BS they can't do that because it would make them judge,jury,executioner all rolled into one it would have to be heard separately by a different 'judge' without a conflict of interests

If i ever have the misfortune of being before a 'judge' i'll bring my machine gun not the peashooter

[Chris SUI JURIS]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

That is if he is not paying the bills - sounds like a load of BS from a troll. He says he isn't but I just do not beleive him - perhaps being economical with the truth is the mildest comment one can make.
So Mr Freemen prove to Accyweb that you are not paying the bills as you have stated.

Like i've said before i'm only not paying water,council tax at the min because of my personal despute with them companys,also i don't need to prove anything to anyone least of all Accyweb

[Chris SUI JURIS]

Originally Posted by Restless

Chris what do you do for a living ?

I'm self employed, jack of all trades master of none and before you ask no i don't pay income tax