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23-06-2004, 09:05
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Re: Deletions of Threads and Postings
IF in the event that anything written by me in the posts I myself summated during the night 22/23 June caused offence directly are indirectly to any individual, or contributed to the thread being removed. I would be grateful if the administrator or moderator would offer guidance in public or by PM as to what I wrote, “Caused actual offence.”
Please be assured that no offence was intended….
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23-06-2004, 09:14
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Re: Deletions of Threads and Postings
I'd appreciate a PM too from the moderator(s) which would then ensure that if there is anything in my posts which offends then I do not repeat the offence.
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23-06-2004, 09:20
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Re: Deletions of Threads and Postings
The technicalities of administering a "Locked or Deleted Thread" is something I am not qualified to comment on. But I am sure Roy will be able to provide something that is acceptable to all.
The subject thread that was deleted was done several hours after the "so-called" offending post. And contained 3 or 4 further replies. It didn't seem to crate an avalanche of rage or excessive postings. I feel that we should have a trial period where deletions are highlighted, noted and the thread locked. If this is unsuccessful, then we could consider an alternative method. Does this seem a reasonable approach?
I am not aware nor are several collegues of mine at the MOD, the Law Society, and Inland Revenue who deal with websites, of any Government directives about what and what not a website is allowed to contain or say or what limitations are imposed. Self impositions are the general norm, but must be clearly stated.
There are several websites that contain severe swear words, irreverent references, and aggressive remarks. They are all in the UK and are free to continue with their internet airing, unhindered by all. So I don't believe that we have anything to fear or to Kow-Tow to. Inference to what is right or wrong is very subjective and cannot be substantiated.
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23-06-2004, 09:31
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Re: Deletions of Threads and Postings
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I am not aware nor are several collegues of mine at the MOD, the Law Society, and Inland Revenue who deal with websites, of any Government directives about what and what not a website is allowed to contain or say or what limitations are imposed.
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They really don't have to worry about it though. I run a server that contains my website. I cannot afford solicitors or any legal troubles. I also don't want any bad publicity, at the end of the day anyone with any know how of the internet can get my full name and address through this website. They dont know who you are, they can't find you - but all comments on this website have a DIRECT LINK TO ME!!!! So, i don't care what the MOD or any government agencies policies are, and I don;t want to make enemies.
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23-06-2004, 09:36
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Re: Deletions of Threads and Postings
Roy hosts the forum. Therefore Roy is the one who will be held responsible for anyhting stored on his server. Doesn't matter who wrote it. The person storing it gets into trouble.
There was a court case a few years ago where Demon internet one of the UKs leading internet providors who where one of the first ISP companies in the UK was taken to court by an individual for storing remarks made about him on there servers. the remarks where made on usenet a sort of global messegeboard. Demon where found guilty of storing slanderous content (or is it libel when written?) anyway this at the time sent shockwaves through the whole system and everyone who now stores information such as messages has to be very carefull what they store.
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23-06-2004, 09:37
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Re: Deletions of Threads and Postings
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Originally Posted by Roy
They really don't have to worry about it though. I run a server that contains my website. I cannot afford solicitors or any legal troubles. I also don't want any bad publicity, at the end of the day anyone with any know how of the internet can get my full name and address through this website. They dont know who you are, they can't find you - but all comments on this website have a DIRECT LINK TO ME!!!! So, i don't care what the MOD or any government agencies policies are, and I don;t want to make enemies.
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Of course Roy, neither do I. I was only pointing out relevant associated information for your perusal.
I have only admiration for what you have achieved, and do not wish in any way to detract from it.
We all want the website to remain a friendly, homely, honest site where we can discuss topics of Mutual / Accrington Interest. Nothing more, nothing less.
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23-06-2004, 09:42
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Re: Deletions of Threads and Postings
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We all want the website to remain a friendly, homely, honest site where we can discuss topics of Mutual / Accrington Interest. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Then why not stop reffering to the asian community as P*** Practice what you preach eh
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23-06-2004, 09:43
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Re: Deletions of Threads and Postings
I think this is where I got involved….Roy, I am sure that we would very much prefer to continue submitting to Accyweb knowing that it’s one of the best available local forums and without doubt one of the friendliest. That’s the nature of the people on this site.
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23-06-2004, 09:47
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Re: Deletions of Threads and Postings
I think it's perfectly acceptable to distinguish between different Asian nationalities (at least I hope it is) such as Bengali, Kashmiri, (edited due to censored word inadvertantly creating a different diminuative - sorry about that) etc but not to use diminuatives which could be deemed offensive.
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23-06-2004, 10:41
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Re: Deletions of Threads and Postings
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Then why not stop reffering to the asian community as P*** Practice what you preach eh
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Is that an ORDER?
Why do you continue to rage about a word and its inadvertant usage that I have quite clearly explained several times. Are you about to have a heart attack on the subject?
I'm all for freedom of speech and against repression, so please try to moderate your responses to something more objective, and lets move on to more pedantic subjects that you can comprehend.
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23-06-2004, 10:57
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Re: Deletions of Threads and Postings
is that an order? what you on about? I said why not... you consider that a rage? or an order?
why not stop I said... your just making arguments out of anything now
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23-06-2004, 11:02
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Re: Deletions of Threads and Postings
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Originally Posted by KIPAX
is that an order? what you on about? I said why not... you consider that a rage? or an order?
why not stop I said... your just making arguments out of anything now
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My dear man, please try to control yourself, and don't get so worked up. Go and lie down for a hour or so.
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23-06-2004, 11:05
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Re: Deletions of Threads and Postings
sigh... your so confused...
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23-06-2004, 12:33
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Re: Deletions of Threads and Postings
I stand by my thoughts on the original subject - but I begrudgingly accept that some form of self-censure may have to be exercised (only for the good of the site and not to give in to the pc brigade). I do wonder though where we draw the line on what could be deemed offensive - there's probably around 5 posts a day at least that some body in some way could take offence at.....
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23-06-2004, 12:38
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Re: Deletions of Threads and Postings
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Originally Posted by Ceejache
I stand by my thoughts on the original subject - but I begrudgingly accept that some form of self-censure may have to be exercised (only for the good of the site and not to give in to the pc brigade). I do wonder though where we draw the line on what could be deemed offensive - there's probably around 5 posts a day at least that some body in some way could take offence at.....
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Very true. We would lack consistency, and be open to ridicule. It's up to the members to use common sense, without the "thought police" needing to be involved.
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