Karma............. Up Your Bum

[Len]

jelly baby

click on the link below for a brief introduction to your question

Karma, Click Here
Hope it helps.

[Roy]

All good fun this karma system, don´t you think? If we didn`t have karma we wouldn`t have all these fun conversations about karma. But then, I suppose I would enjoy it more than the rest of you because I can read the whole lot and see who really has given it and taken it... I can also see that some people who preach that you should leave your name, don`t. It was also amusing to see that smiffy16 was one of the only people on the forums who hasn`t given steve bad karma, yet still got the blame!!

Anyway, looking at it from an overall point of view.. Would it not take the fun out of the karma system if they where not anonymous? Would people still use it the same?

The system is in place already to allow me to let you see who gave the karma. But as lettie mentions, I think this should be a paid for thing to raise money for a new site design, what do you all think and how much is it worth?

[WillowTheWhisp]

I don't really mind the system as it is now apart from when people simply play silly beggars and take it from somebody because:
a) they simply don't like the person regardless of the content of the post
b) they do it as tit-for-tat to someone they think took karma from them.

'b' is bad enough if it is done to the person who did dock their karma because it's a dumb reason, but when it's done to someone who never touched the other person's karma it's flippin annoying.

As for paying for the changes - this is where you can get problems because you can't force people to pay. So some may choose to pay and others won't but then all will get the benefit and you could end up with people who have paid resenting those who haven't becaue they are getting it for free. I've seen it happen on a message board I used to help admin. It was down to a request for contributions to keep it ad-free and oh boy did that lead to complaints and accusations against the board owner of being a money grabber. Such petty squabbles eventually led to the demise of the board.

One thing which I found the members definitely didn't like was discovering that things they believed to be anonymous turned out not to be. For instance someone said that post reporting was anonymous but it isn't. The "staff" know who reports a post even if the original poster doesn't. That isn't anonimity.

Back to the subject of Karma, it's a bit frustrating sometimes to have to wait 24 hours or spread it around more because I wanted to give some to a post a coupe of days ago and by the time I could do I forgot which post it was. Maybe I should have written a note and stuck it to my monitor to remind me.

Also sometimes it's safer to give negative karma anonymously simply because people get miffed and do a tit-for-tat like I said earlier without the post they use really justifying it.

Hope that makes sense.

[Bagpuss]

Out of interest are you the only one who can read who gave karma Roy or have the moderators got the same access ? As I'm constantly being told by one of the mods I don't know the whole story of what goes on behind the scenes, what I would like to know is do they?

Do you also read private PMs and do the moderators have access to them.

If the karma system is so much fun why not put it to some sort of vote and see what feedback you get.

[Poodle]

actually the kama system means nothing to me as a new user

i still aint figured out if more is less and less is more or less is less and more is more and what if anything that all means.

*shrug*

[WillowTheWhisp]

More is more and less is less (unless it's Less in which case he is Les or less than that )

[Darby]

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

More is more and less is less (unless it's Less in which case he is Les or less than that )

EEErrrrr.....Yes....or No....or

Anyway the Karma system can be taken or left alone. I think it's quite OK to give Karma, if you wish to express your approval of a post. Negative Karma I use very sparingly indeed.....Everybody has their own point of view. But somebody who tries to be nasty or implies nastiness would (if I think it so bad) get a bit of negative Karma, but it has to be an extreme case.

So carry on Roy...leave it as it is!

By the way...I now sign mine!

[WillowTheWhisp]

Originally Posted by Poodle

actually the kama system means nothing to me as a new user

i still aint figured out if more is less and less is more or less is less and more is more and what if anything that all means.

*shrug*

When you joined you automatically had 10 karma points. Right now you've got 12 which means you've been given two extra, which is positive. If you check your profile you'll see the posts where you gained the karma, and the reasons why.

[Shane.]

Hey!!!
Some yellow belly has rustled some of my Karma in this thread.
They left this message.
“Up Y...”
Anyone knows what it means.
Maybe it is a good idea to have names added to the karma automatically, just to stop these yellow bellies from playing childish games.

Anyways, looks like I’ve been got.

[Roy]

@willow

As for paying for the changes - this is where you can get problems because you can't force people to pay.

This system would make it so that if you paid, you would get to see who gave you karma, if you didn`t pay then things remain the same. So it`s kind of like a pay for more features thing, which I don`t really like the idea of...

One thing which I found the members definitely didn't like was discovering that things they believed to be anonymous turned out not to be. For instance someone said that post reporting was anonymous but it isn't. The "staff" know who reports a post even if the original poster doesn't. That isn't anonimity.

Well we have never (as far as I know) claimed that anything was totally anonymous. Reporting the post creates emails to all moderators + makes an automatic post in the moderators forum which displays the user who has reported it. So it isn`t anonymous at all.

@bagpuss

Out of interest are you the only one who can read who gave karma Roy or have the moderators got the same access ? As I'm constantly being told by one of the mods I don't know the whole story of what goes on behind the scenes, what I would like to know is do they?

There is only me that has access to the karma comments, nobody else has ever seen them or has access to them.

Do you also read private PMs and do the moderators have access to them.

No I do not read private PM´s. There is no `simple`way of reading pm`s built into the software, although a mod for the software has been released it has not been installed here. I could access the database directly, but I feel no need to go through peoples private messages. The moderators also have no way of reading other peoples messages.

If the karma system is so much fun why not put it to some sort of vote and see what feedback you get.

As I mentioned above, it`s fun for me! A vote would surely be far to democratic for this board!

[-pixie]

Why don't you just put a donation link via paypal or something, so that if people wish to show their appreciation of the board by donating they can? Another board I am a member of does this and the little perk he gives out is letting people choose their own custom user title. Nothing too major to make those who choose not to donate feel bad, but I think its a nice little thank you for those who do.

[WillowTheWhisp]

Maybe you could put that in suggestions pixie. We used to be able to customise our names once. I seem to remember being purple.

[Darby]

I seem to remember being purple.

Willow

Oh dear...I'm that colour sometimes....normally the day after!!!!!!

[Steven]

I know that red is bad karma--- ive had plenlty

and green is good karma--- ive had little


but what is the pruple coloured karma???---- just had one

[Doug]

Simon give an answer some time ago Steven. Have a look at this section of posts on the same subject....

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...ighlight=Karma