Rights and freedoms.... - Page 2

shakermaker · 07-01-2006, 01:24

Yes you are correct there but discussing the issue in question and perpetuating it in an internet forum is hardly going to resolve the issue.

Doug · 07-01-2006, 01:26

Reality is that one letter of complaint was wrote to the local paper who published the letter and the article in the public interest.

Concerns raised by people on this site were also in the public interest as it informed others who may not have been aware of it. That is what freedom of speech is.

When the thread was closed only 7 people had posted, some of them had done so twice. I have little doubt that others may have reported the post appropriately to the Moderators by pressing the report button.

Regardless, I personally feel that matter’s like this should be ignored and dealt with by the appropriate authorities, i.e. the club or if the law as been broken the police.

shakermaker · 07-01-2006, 01:27

Once again I express my apologies for being one of the people to request the thread and in turn your views removed as it has obviously upset you.

Maybe I was right to do so maybe I wasnt but now I just want to get on with supporting my club and if that means "sweeping the issue under the carpet" then so be it.

garinda · 07-01-2006, 01:34

Appology accepted.

The thing is what I said in the thread agrees with what you think, I just don't like having my right to say it taken away when it was in no way offensively wtitten. The damage was done by one person on Monday.

Doug · 07-01-2006, 01:47

Yeah, and I have no doubt at all that he believe he was acting in the interests of the supporters, their family’s and his club. He may have little idea of the commotion he as caused on this site are in the public arena. We won’t know that until next Thursday, unless the LET choose to pick it up and run with it…..I hope not.

We are but a macrocosm of Accrington life on this site, sadly or fortunately we don’t run the town, its people or its offenders. But when you sweep things under the carpet Shakes the smell builds up until you have to open the doors.

Everyone finished now?.....

garinda · 07-01-2006, 02:26

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Originally Posted by Doug

Everyone finished now?.....

What's the point of a thread about free spech if people can't say what they want?

Doug · 07-01-2006, 02:34

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Originally Posted by garinda

What's the point of a thread about free spech if people can't say what they want?

Apparently, not one in which I’m going to get the last word…..

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Freedom of speech yes, the content of the thread actually removed no.

garinda · 07-01-2006, 03:12

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Originally Posted by Doug

Apparently, not one in which I’m going to get the last word…..

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Freedom of speech yes, the content of the thread actually removed no.

That's good.

I'd hate for you to try and gag me.

Len · 07-01-2006, 15:47

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Originally Posted by garinda

The moderators are doing a job, which I'm sure is pretty thankless sometimes, so thanks.

Point noted Len, about the mods on the Stanley section, but they do also have access to the rest of the site too. I saw BBK reading my question that I asked earlier about old posts.

I too was a bit suprised to see the thread Doug mentioned pulled. Does make you wonder about power going to some peoples heads.

Hi Gary
Concerning the ASFC moderators; as you have noticed, they, like everyone else including unregistered guests can freely browse our forums just like you and I. They can, in emergencies help out in the Accyweb side as can the Accyweb mods in the ASFC forums but that is very, very rare. As a rule they moderate their side and we moderate ours.
A couple of times now, you have mentioned BBK in your posts, I don’t know if you have an issue with him/her or it’s just a coincidence but as you know discussing or starting threads about moderators is a no no and although you really haven’t crossed that line it’s getting close.
I can tell you and I will probably be strung up for saying that BBK did not delete that thread.
At the end of the day the moderator has a job to do and it doesn’t matter which mod deletes which thread that is for us to know and no one else.
If anyone has a complaint to make about moderators, then contact admin or if anyone is not happy about any particular post or thread then don’t forget there is a report button situated at the top right hand side of every post. Please us it.
Do not under any circumstances try and vent your grievances on the public forums, use the proper channels.
I hope this helps.

garinda · 07-01-2006, 15:57

Thanks Len.

I do appreciate that the moderators do a really good job, and get very little praise or thanks, which I'm sure we all agree with, and I for one thank them.

I have no problem with BBK. I only mentioned them because they were online at the time, and being a nosey beggar asked the question about past posts, which Wingy answered for me.

Cheers G.

Margaret Pilkington · 07-01-2006, 16:00

I don't think posts like this go anywhere.....they just get a bit.....erm, I suppose tetchy is the word I am looking for. Maybe it would be best closed.....as there doesn't seem much doing in the way of resolution.

garinda · 07-01-2006, 16:09

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I don't think posts like this go anywhere.....they just get a bit.....erm, I suppose tetchy is the word I am looking for. Maybe it would be best closed.....as there doesn't seem much doing in the way of resolution.

I'm sorry, I think it brings things out into the open, and certainly questions I had have been well answered.

As for closed threads, they are more aggravating than disappearing threads, if you read something and may want to add your point of view to.

Cry Freedom.

WINGY · 07-01-2006, 16:27

Just a quick note to back up what len has said seeing he beat me to it. For those who wannted said thread deleted, your lucky that it was. I certainly wouldn't have closed or deleted it! Not one post in that thread was reported properly. everybody knows there's a report button, if you have a problem use the report system thats what its there for. Many posts and threads have been reported in the past because they upset somebody, but unless its a personal dig threads should not be closed because of one persons oppinion. I'm sure its been pointed out before, when you report a post a thread is automaticaly started in the mod forum where we then discuss what should happen, and believe me we disagree but we usually come up with some sort of comprimise. IMO everybody has the right to freedom of speech, but if it upsets too many people something will be done about it.

harwood red · 07-01-2006, 16:29

Well said Wingy

garinda · 07-01-2006, 16:32

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Originally Posted by harwood red

Well said Wingy

Here, here.