Severed Link - Roy`s Concern

[Owd Bert]

When I mentiond that a possible reason for the link being removed was that they thought the majority of postings were childish, I was of course only making an assumption.

In goes without saying ( even though I am saying it ) that the Jammy Dodger Brigade have every right to carry on with their "FUN".  But it has been pointed out that it is up to the Moderator to accept or reject topics.

I will repeat again my suggestion that those "FUN LOVERS" start up their own WebSite.

Just one other aspect interests me and that is that over 200 members have looked at the thread under "Hyndburn Youth Council" and as I write only half a dozen have chosen to pass an opinion about an issue which is of concern to Roy.

[Caz]

Just one other aspect interests me and that is that over 200 members have looked at the thread under "Hyndburn Youth Council" and as I write only half a dozen have chosen to pass an opinion about an issue which is of concern to Roy.

As I said bert, the silent majority, which is often the case!

Can I just point out again though, that I can only moderate the sections with my name on them. I try to keep those reasonably tidy by checking them myself. I aslo report posts in other areas, but it is not up to me whether they are deleted or not.

I've not been coming on much lately because of the way things are going, and it seems an awful lot of people are of the same mind, as the top 50 covers 3 days posts. I can remember coming on in a morning, and the posts were coming up so fast we couldn't keep up with them! What went wrong?

We have 600 members and only a handful are posting. Even bearing in mind that some people will check the forum and never post anyway, or that some register and don't come back to the site, that's says a lot!

[George Walker]

The reason i have not contributed is that a lot of rubbish has been on by,a certain few. I hope this will change.I was sick of the jam post.

[Tealeaf]

Yo!

Looks like I've missed a full & frank exchange of opinion over the weekend....what a shame..I also missed the rugby as well. Judging from what I have just read I'm not sure which as been the greater battle and who has taken the biggest hits.

Let me just make a few observations:

1) I think I'm right in saying that the "forum" has divided between the funnies and the serious mob, with the former being accused - possibly rightly - of  of executing audacious raids into Serious territory from their heavily protected Anything Goes homeland.

2) But it's really no surprise, is it - certainly from my experiance. When pertinent questions have been asked by those who are prepared to think critically and challenge the the goody-goody norm- i.e. questioning priorities in the local education budget or disagreeing with attempts to curtail the local Formula 1 racing fraternity, then those questions have simply been blanked out.

3) Well, we're not all goodie-goodies ready to kow-tow and pander to the Accrington testament of political correctness. Some of us think a little bit radically and are prepared to back our arguments with critical discourse and occaisionally a sense of humour...something found , by the way in debate in democratic insitutions such as the House of Commons.

3) To those on here who would be happier attending the 12th Party Congress of the Peoples Rebublic of North Korea, I say fine...enjoy your fun your way. But those of us...Happyone, Mik.D, myself...we'll continue to be the Winston Smiths of this world...we won't submit to the heavy hand of injustice & the big paintbrush of censorship....we shall continue, by whatever means are neccessary....

WE FIGHT ON!

[Tealeaf]

Anne - you're in this to....we'll make a good gang of four...

[ANNE]

Phew I was about to send yas a message accusing ya of being a m.s.p. Coz there are women in parliment now ya know tea.
Dont forget janet and Lettie.
This was once a Happy   forum.
Cazzers right people arn't posting like they used too. ???
Propper serious posts were kept serious by the jam gang or Dodger brigade what ever.
Anything reported has being inapropriate has been dealt with accordingly.
Miss read threads av been the cause of some silly answers.
Out of all the posts when I went through them only a few threads above anything goes involved Jam and these were NOT in anything that can be deemed serious.
Bellow anything goes nothing out of place.
The only thing keeping people away has far as i can see is the fact that
A They are scared they may post in the wrong place.
B They can sense the atmosphere of the board. Its NOT that nice Sunny place people once came to pass the time of day and HAVE FUN.
There IS room for Serious threads that EVERYONE finds serious and Then there are the semi serious threads that you are either into or your not.
Then There is the buy sell and swap were iam sorry to say there is going to be humour creeping in depending on whats being sold and I for one like to think everyone has one to some degree.
I think that people should STOP making mountains out of mole hills.
I think if any one of us J.G were truley upsetting people then fair enough complain through the channels and i'm sure it will be removed.
If I want dead serious all the time I would log on to a news bulliting board or an appropriate site.
Accrington wants to see a good balance. Christamas is on the way and its time we got back to people wanting to come on the site because it has something to offer everybody.
Nobody is comeing on now to say thanx for the fun and enjoyment.
I hope the fight is done.
[smiley=ban.gif] [smiley=jam1.gif]

[Caz]

Yes, you’re correct, the forum has been divided between the funnies and the “serious mob” as you put it!

(Do note though, won’t you, that some people post in both, so it’s not a matter of separating the posters, but the subject matter.
Because someone likes to make a few serious comments, doesn’t mean he/she is devoid of a sense of humour.)

This was originally done because threads weren’t kept on topic, and constantly wandered off at a complete tangent.
As I pointed out, those people who have the forum set so they can receive email alerts of replies, were getting increasing infuriated that a post they went to bore no resemblance to the subject they were previously talking about!
Also people using the last post lists were not seeing what they wanted to, when they logged on to the forum.
Not everyone has the time to constantly go through the whole forum to check for relevant posts, and this facility was useful.

Regarding your deleted posts, I don’t know what those were, and presume that Roy must have deleted them for whatever reason, maybe the way in which they were written, rather than the subject content. Or maybe because someone reported them because they thought they were written in an offensive manner. That’s for him to say.

Regarding other people’s posts which have been censored or deleted, these were quite frankly offensive, abusive, completely inappropriate or contained bad language. I'm sure the majority of people have nothing against that.

I don’t know about anyone else who agrees with the issue that’s been raised, (including seemingly, Roy) but I am certainly not a goody-goody, and I don’t “kow-tow” to anybody, no way! If I have something to say I will say it, and will push my beliefs and opinions as far as I can, in any way I can. Anyone who knows what I do would tell you as much.

Yes, we have humour in the House of Commons sometimes tealeaf, but about the subject in hand usually, not something completely out of context.
I don’t think anyone’s got any objection to a bit of humour in the main section as long as it’s remotely relevant to the thread!

Can I once again mention how quiet this forum’s been lately? No one has yet replied to that. Today’s been the busiest day in a long while, and that’s not saying much.
We used to have a large number of regular posters with something interesting to say, where did they go and why?

In the end, Roy will decide what happens with the forum, it’s his baby after all, and it would seem he is in agreement that it needs a shake up. (I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong.)
We don’t want the forum to disappear do we? And I don’t think Roy wants to be the administrator of a site that eventually could contain hardly anything but silly posts, if many more stop logging on, and is virtually used as a glorified chatroom.

You want someone to have a decent debate with surely tealeaf?

@ Anne.
Why do you keep focusing on JAM when other issues are being raised?

Are the Administrator's opinions of no interest to you?

Are the deserting posters of no interest to you?
I know of 3 people personally who don't post any more now, and it's because of what's happening to the forum. Not for the reason you state.

Or the ones who have complained to admin in private or on the forum?

Nobody's stopping anyone being as daft, silly or funny as they want in AG. So where is the problem?

This subject started due to Roy commenting on a severed link on the council website, might be worth bearing that in mind.

PS. Might also be worth noting that since this topic started, quite a few posts have been deleted, either by Roy, or the person that made them. That says something.

Below everything goes, everything in order

Yes because the moderators keep pretty much on top of things!

If I want dead serious all the time I would log on to a news bulliting board or an appropriate site

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Nobody wants serious all the time, as you should have noticed by reading the previous posts.

Accrington wants to see a good balance

Precisely! You agree now then?

[Guinness]

It seems that Tealeaf has been reading the Guardian and got his reports wrong.

I'd just like to clarify the facts:

1) The 'audacious' raids by the Anything Goes Terrorists were in fact 'Unwarranted Spam Attacks' on innocent civilians. The Anything Goes Terrorists (A.G.T) are not from a heavily protected homeland but have escaped from a highly contagious quarantined area to the south of the main forum.

4)Hi Winston have you met my friend Ben?  

[Owd Bert]

This thread was started by me commenting that perhaps the Hyndburn Council removed the link because they thought it was dominated by children. A touch of the tongue in cheek maybe, but come on -- was it an outrageous assumption.  I will call in at the Council Office in the morning and see if I can get the reason for the removal of the link.

[Mick]

i have already tryed that bert they wont say
its not the council offices you nead to go to its scarfield house or scarcliff house not sure
up near the globe centre. :-X

[Caz]

Direct from the webmaster at HBC, who gave me permission to quote:

The link was removed from the site due to the abusive and offensive comments. We are a local government site  and have a wide audience and we can not be seen to promote a site where offensive comments are being made.

I understand Roy is unhappy about the link being removed but
we have a responsibility to our audience. I am local and would happily promote any community based sites but they must be properly administered. I understand that the YABB software allows for the control over certain words and this should be used to ensure a fun but clean site.

I'm sure now we could all take that comment on board and help Roy to get the site back to what it used to be.

[Tealeaf]

I would respectively suggest that the toady little bureaucrat above has better things to do....such as going round Accy market ensuring that the stallholders are selling their spuds in metric measures rather than imperial.....or alternatively patrolling the streets of Church or Springhill to ensure that peoples Wheelies are lined up at the right spot & at the right time, and if not...that's a hundred quid to you, matey.


Is it any wonder that people are cynical of government - local or national - and their motives? Whatever happened to encouraging local initiative & enterprise? The only links that the HBC site encourages are those to other piles of bureaucratic garbage.The HBC site is a pile of crap.

I think Roy should stick a warning up - "Don't visit the HBC site - its bad for your health"

[happyone]

where is that then cazzer  all this abuse ?

[ANNE]

Lets see if we cant get things straightened out here.
My only complaint was about the jam thing.
Recap. Going on about Jam postings not being kept to anythin goes.
Mick was accused of jam postings here there and everywhere they shouldnt be.
He was annoyed.
I checked through and found ONLY ONE posting where it shouldn't be.
I have been on about jam because that was the only thing i was talking about at the time.
And I will say again the main Jam posters have NOT invaded any serious posts.
On the other hand the rest of what you have been saying I have NOT disagreed with.
Roy does a BRILLIANT job with this site.
He takes off anything inaproprate he sees or his attention is drawn to.
I did NOT say he has had to remove any of my posts.
Coz he hasn't.
All things and people are dealt with and fairly.
So let me see  ???
You moderate your section to the best of your ability.
You said so.
Mick does his job the best he can.
Roy deals with his complaints blah,blah,blah.
So what on earth is the problem.  [smiley=bye2.gif]

[happyone]

and stop saying we  swear on post because we dont the only one that has done that and he  wasnt  part of  the jam buttie  people as we have been named